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Wicked weather ideas (by #22 [MO]) Feb 13, 2021 9:24 AM
       Wicked weather ideas (by #22 [MO]) Feb 13, 2021 9:25 AM
       Wicked weather ideas (by NE [PA]) Feb 13, 2021 9:33 AM
       Wicked weather ideas (by Ken [NY]) Feb 13, 2021 10:09 AM
       Wicked weather ideas (by Jason [VA]) Feb 13, 2021 10:54 AM
       Wicked weather ideas (by Dave [MO]) Feb 13, 2021 10:58 AM
       Wicked weather ideas (by Lana [IN]) Feb 13, 2021 11:03 AM
       Wicked weather ideas (by Roy [AL]) Feb 13, 2021 11:39 AM
       Wicked weather ideas (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Feb 13, 2021 11:43 AM
       Wicked weather ideas (by RB [MI]) Feb 13, 2021 12:26 PM
       Wicked weather ideas (by Dave [MO]) Feb 13, 2021 12:51 PM
       Wicked weather ideas (by Busy [WI]) Feb 13, 2021 1:15 PM
       Wicked weather ideas (by Busy [WI]) Feb 13, 2021 1:23 PM
       Wicked weather ideas (by Cat [WI]) Feb 13, 2021 8:44 PM
       Wicked weather ideas (by Allym [NJ]) Feb 13, 2021 9:58 PM
       Wicked weather ideas (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Feb 14, 2021 12:39 AM
       Wicked weather ideas (by #22 [MO]) Feb 14, 2021 8:36 AM
       Wicked weather ideas (by Dave [MO]) Feb 14, 2021 12:16 PM
       Wicked weather ideas (by razorback_tim [AR]) Feb 14, 2021 12:41 PM
       Wicked weather ideas (by Roy [AL]) Feb 14, 2021 2:00 PM
       Wicked weather ideas (by Lana [IN]) Feb 14, 2021 8:46 PM
       Wicked weather ideas (by Fishsticks913 [IA]) Feb 15, 2021 10:11 AM
       Wicked weather ideas (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Feb 16, 2021 11:21 PM

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Wicked weather ideas (by #22 [MO]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2021 9:24 AM

In 20 years, I haven't seen weather this cold and severe... 2 thoughts - 1 ot: where are the climate change people now?? I guess we won't see them until next summer or maybe they're vacationing with lead activities John Kerry on his private jet somewhere far away....

2: what are some preventative things we can do to protect crawl space homes? We're going to close and try to seal.off crawl vents with plastic... wondering if or what other ideas anyone else has on this.... thanks --174.234.xxx.xxx

Wicked weather ideas (by #22 [MO]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2021 9:25 AM

Love my auto correct. Lead activist john kerry --174.234.xxx.xxx

Wicked weather ideas (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2021 9:33 AM

I heat primarily with wood, sooooooo basically I destroy the environment to combat the cold during global warming. Very strange world indeed.

For the crawl spaces, you can liquid nail rigid foam to the exterior walls for insulation. --70.44.xxx.xx

Wicked weather ideas (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2021 10:09 AM

NE,burning firewood was the original green but we wont get any credit for that.Open kitchen and bath cabinet doors,let water run in a sink just to keep it moving,when you show up to a house flush the toilet and run sinks for a minute just to keep the water moving.Plug any drafts,that is where pipes will freeze first --72.231.xxx.xxx

Wicked weather ideas (by Jason [VA]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2021 10:54 AM

It wonít do you much good now, but lot piggyback off of NE, the best way to protect the crawl space is to encapsulate it. Seal off all but one exterior vent with rigid foam, insulate exterior crawl space walls with rigid foam, remove all fiberglass insulation from under the floors, and properly install a vapor barrier.

On the one uninsulated vent, install a small 100 cfm exhaust fan to pull conditioned air from the house into the crawl. This will maintain the crawl space temperature the same as the living spaceís.

Iíve done this on one of my properties and have installed a remote monitoring device. The crawl space consistently maintains a temperature within 3 degrees of the living space. --73.12.xx.xx

Wicked weather ideas (by Dave [MO]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2021 10:58 AM

It is brutally cold here.

Iíve text all tenants to leave cabinet doors open and let hot and cold faucets have a steady stream of water.

You could use heat tape but maybe to late for that.

Allow one heat /air vent loose under house to heat crawl space.


Wicked weather ideas (by Lana [IN]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2021 11:03 AM

I have rerouted lines away from an outside wall with pex and wrapped them with heat tape plugged into a thermocube that turns on at 35F and off at 45F. Sealed basements and crawl spaces as much as possible. My 2 most vulnerable basements have non-vented natural gas heaters that go on when we see single digits.

Unfortunately, in one of those basements with a heater, a line to the upstairs froze because with the gas heater on the basement got so warm the thermocube did not turn on the heat tape and I needed both. --216.23.xxx.xx

Wicked weather ideas (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2021 11:39 AM


Just how cold is 'brutally cold' up there? Here low temps at night are about 30. 50's during the day. --68.63.xxx.xxx

Wicked weather ideas (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2021 11:43 AM

Slowly upgrading insulation in house where buying DIY spray foam kits then breaking out walls and installing spray foam in walls and ceilings where every year there is a improvement as heat stays in longer. As a result of the pandemic there is air travel along less travel where the pollution levels have dropped where less carbon. Last year one wall with a thermal camera where outside temperature was -20 degrees Celsius the wall was at 0 degrees Celsius where broke entire wall then removed all the moldy fiber glass insulation then spray foamed wall then applied a layer of bubble wrap where now the windows are weakest section of the wall. Houses built earlier had very poor levels of insulation where the solution was to install a larger heating system. Spray foam has the least heat transfer where fiber glass is a garbage insulation where air pockets then air transfer along with mold. Rock wool is a lot better where over time does not change. Pipe insulation helps as well to prevent pipes from freezing. Last year installed a screen glass front door where there is significant improvement where there is less drafts in front door. Later on going to remove trim around windows then take fiber glass insulation then install low expansion spray foam insulation. Will have to wait until spring to start installing more spray foam where can install spray foam when it is cold out in ceilings. For a crawl space spray foam will reduce heat transfer in the floors. If can contract out then it is worthwhile to prevent heat loss and air infiltration. Crawl spaces are not common here where most houses have a basement. --99.236.xxx.xxx

Wicked weather ideas (by RB [MI]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2021 12:26 PM

Brutally cold =

Single digit or lower.

When the Turtle is in the Shell. --199.192.xxx.xxx

Wicked weather ideas (by Dave [MO]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2021 12:51 PM

Roy, for the last week the temps in Mo. havenít been above 22, no pun intended. Lol

Today high of 12 with 6 to 9 inches of snow coming through the night into Sunday. Sunday high of 3 low -6

Mondayís forecast high 0 low -9 with windchill-20

Normal here we can have freezing temps for 3 maybe 4 days in a row and pipes can freeze but a much greater when temps donít get above the freezing for 10 to 12 days in row. Our last few winters have not been to severe.


Wicked weather ideas (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2021 1:15 PM

Our own house has a crawl space under one room, no exterior vents. The bottom of the crawl space was just the original soil, no barrier. Years ago, my kids and I ( and even the dog!) dug out the crawl space to create a storage space. My husband special ordered a very heavy plastic to put down as a vapor barrier, as we are in a high radon area. He ran the plastic up the sides too. On the underside of the floor above, he added fiberglass insulation. We laid down an old carpet in there just to cushion our knees when crawling in there, and have used that space as perfectly dry storage for some twenty years now. All the holiday decorations, camping gear, hand-me-downs we are saving for the grandkids go in there. Grandkids love getting the task of going in the crawl space to retrieve items.

We donít have any closure over the entrance to the space, the only mechanicals in there is a small section of toilet stack ( about two feet ) and a heat duct for the room above.

On my one rental with a crawl space over an addition, I removed the one outside vent, put a cement block to permanently close the opening, tore all the old moldy insulation out. Smoothed the dirt bottom of the crawl space, got more of that heavy plastic crawl space liner online, and covered the floor and up the walls. The plastic is held in place on the walls with plastic clips that I ordered from the same company. I re-insulated the underside of the floor above with fiberglass, and tacked chicken wire to make sure the fiberglass batts didnít fall. The one heat duct that runs through the crawl space was well-insulated with a foil backed fiberglass, and taped.

I do NOT want my tenants to use that space for storage, as I would expect they would damage the plastic liner ( the plastic keeps radon from seeping out of soil and into basement) AND I would assume tenants would leave stuff behind in a crawl space when moving. So, when I had the basement sill plate foamed, the company just plugged the opening with foam. There was an existing ďdoorĒ fabricated from an old sign over the opening when I bought the house, which I caulked in place over the dried foam and painted to match the basement walls.

Only thing I wish I had done first was run doorbell wire to the back door that is one the room above. Drat! Going to have to poke a saw blade in the foam plug in the door opening at some time to get the back door wired for doorbell cameras. Someday...

My online research (at the time) said that here in the cold north, our crawl spaces are best unvented to exterior, and either unheated, or heated to the basement temps. --70.92.xxx.xxx

Wicked weather ideas (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2021 1:23 PM

#22, do your houses have basement and crawl space, or only crawl space? My thinking is if only crawl space, your treatment maybe would be different than those of us with crawl space connected to a basement.

Back when I was trying to figure out what to do with the crawl space on my rental, I cam across several good YouTube videos on the subject. --70.92.xxx.xxx

Wicked weather ideas (by Cat [WI]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2021 8:44 PM

Temperature here are bitterly cold. Up here in Wisconsin, I consider bittery cold to be 20 below or colder. The worst is when we have below zero with a wind chill which can be 20 to 30 below or colder.

I remember a couple years ago, we hit 45 to 50 below which does not normally happen. I was nervous for rental properties freezing up. The one had some issues catching up because it was abnormally cold. When it happened again this year for that one, I thought maybe the furnace was 20+ years old and needed replacement. Checked my records and it is only 9 years old. Filter just changed to a new one. Has to be insulation too low. If the furnace is working fine, it can't be the furnace and it should not need replacing at 9 yrs old.

I would love to have a low temp outside to be above zero. That would seem like a heat wave. We have had way below zero for a week or more now. No relief at all. --173.87.xxx.xxx

Wicked weather ideas (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2021 9:58 PM

Sorry this is happening to you. The sun has been in a weakened state for the past five years called Solar Minimum. It is slowly returning to its other state called Solar Maximum which has more sunspots. I guess this year is like 4 AM which is the coldest part of the night when frost can happen just before the sun comes up. I read that we are going to have a weaker sun for the next 30 years. Summer will come and all but somewhat cooler with less solar energy. Please call your congress person and tell them to pressure Biden to let the Keystone Pipeline go through. I just heard today that gas wells can stop down because of severe cold. We need every bit of energy we can get. --108.24.xx.xx

Wicked weather ideas (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Feb 14, 2021 12:39 AM


Some stuff I have done...

#1 stop air leaks

#2 add heat

#3 Replumb with Uponor pex so the pipes don't break if they freeze.

Pile snow up against the foundation. Snow is a great insulator and also seals off air leaks...until it melts, but not melting soon.

Stapled heavy plastic on the bottom row of siding and buried the lowers edge in the snow to stop air leaks.

Old farm houses will staple plastic then stack straw bales against the foundation as insulation. The straw only helps if it is totally against the foundation - no tiny gaps. Mice love it in the summer so remove it.

Heat rises so the trick is to get heat DOWN under the home. I have simply removed heat ducts to fill the crawl with house air. Sometimes I can pull the floor vent cover and remove a screw or two, then drop the boot down.

In individual trouble spots I have poked holes in heat ducts to continually supply a small stream of warm arm in certain spots.

Open floor trapdoor hatches and angle a fan downward to blow house air into the crawl

Emergency only: VERY CAREFULLY place a small elec heater in the crawl ONLY IF clear of any wood, and a $10 fan to blow the warm air around in the crawl.

If we open the floors we glue rigid foam to the inside of the foundation and encase the crawl in heavy plastic, stapled up on the rim board and draped down to the dirt.

Go in the crawl during sunlight and spray foam any spot that shows light. A hole the size of a pencil can freeze pipes.

Obvious but often the simplest problem - loose crawl hates or vents.

Cold is a bear. It has no mercy.



Wicked weather ideas (by #22 [MO]) Posted on: Feb 14, 2021 8:36 AM

Some great ideas - thanks!

We've got a bunch of crawl space homes - they're my least favorite foundation type....

I sealed off a lot of crawl vents with foam and plastic, in an effort to reduce air intrusion.... in the future, I'll ponder having a vent and a damper to the crawl, to open for circumstances like this...also, I'll do as much as I can to not have hose bibs located near crawl vents and use some of these other ideas if we have freeze ups.... Good luck to everyone - thanks for the ideas!


Wicked weather ideas (by Dave [MO]) Posted on: Feb 14, 2021 12:16 PM

The weather channel showed a video on how to keep pipes from freezing. Normal water pressure is 60 psi and once pipes start to freeze the pressure expands to 400 psi causing the pipes to burst from expanding ice molecules.

In short allowing the water to drip at the faucets brings the water pressure to 0.

Wish we could post videos here. --173.216.xxx.xx

Wicked weather ideas (by razorback_tim [AR]) Posted on: Feb 14, 2021 12:41 PM

A few years ago we could use well-placed 100W Incandescent light bulbs to prevent freezing pipes in the crawlspace (or almost anywhere else for that matter). If you happen to have any old ones squirreled away this could be a good use for them. --70.178.x.xx

Wicked weather ideas (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Feb 14, 2021 2:00 PM

How cold does it have to get up before your car will not start due to a frozen battery or something else?


Wicked weather ideas (by Lana [IN]) Posted on: Feb 14, 2021 8:46 PM

Use chicken warming lights razorback, you can get pure infrared with no light energy expended. --216.23.xxx.xx

Wicked weather ideas (by Fishsticks913 [IA]) Posted on: Feb 15, 2021 10:11 AM

Currently where I am in Iowa..... it is -9 with a wind-chill of -31.

-31.... Lord help us.


Wicked weather ideas (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Feb 16, 2021 11:21 PM


Lana beat me to it. I just added a heat light bulb to a suspicious spot. $5 for the bulb at Tractor Supply. $8 for the metal clamp light. Nothing to melt or burn.

Bulb gives out 400 degrees.


Turn up the hot tub...just to be safe.

BRAD --73.102.xxx.xxx

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