 No Section 8 (by Bonanza [NC]) Feb 9, 2021 11:33 AM
 No Section 8 (by WMH [NC]) Feb 9, 2021 11:42 AM
No Section 8 (by S i d [MO]) Feb 9, 2021 12:01 PM
No Section 8 (by Mike [PA]) Feb 9, 2021 12:31 PM
No Section 8 (by plenty [MO]) Feb 9, 2021 12:56 PM
No Section 8 (by Ken [NY]) Feb 9, 2021 12:59 PM
No Section 8 (by Mike [PA]) Feb 9, 2021 1:11 PM
No Section 8 (by Lynn [MA]) Feb 9, 2021 1:59 PM
No Section 8 (by Nicole [PA]) Feb 9, 2021 2:34 PM
No Section 8 (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Feb 9, 2021 3:51 PM
No Section 8 (by DJ [VA]) Feb 9, 2021 4:47 PM
No Section 8 (by Roy [AL]) Feb 9, 2021 6:23 PM
No Section 8 (by Ken [NY]) Feb 9, 2021 6:37 PM
No Section 8 (by PG [SC]) Feb 9, 2021 6:45 PM
No Section 8 (by Roy [AL]) Feb 9, 2021 11:11 PM
No Section 8 (by Ken [NY]) Feb 10, 2021 8:24 AM
No Section 8 (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Feb 10, 2021 10:53 AM
No Section 8 (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Feb 10, 2021 10:57 AM
No Section 8 (by don [PA]) Feb 10, 2021 2:57 PM
No Section 8 (by MC [PA]) Feb 10, 2021 8:11 PM
No Section 8 (by Roy [AL]) Feb 10, 2021 8:43 PM
No Section 8 (by GKARL [PA]) Feb 11, 2021 1:09 AM
No Section 8 (by Nellie [ME]) Feb 11, 2021 11:37 AM
No Section 8 (by Roy [AL]) Feb 11, 2021 11:56 AM
No Section 8 (by don [PA]) Feb 11, 2021 2:20 PM
No Section 8 (by Steve V [WI]) Feb 11, 2021 10:13 PM
No Section 8 (by Vee [OH]) Feb 16, 2021 3:53 PM
No Section 8 (by Mick [CA]) Feb 20, 2021 10:18 AM
No Section 8 (by Bonanza [NC]) Posted on: Feb 9, 2021 11:33 AM
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correct me if I am wrong, but my understanding is that you can not advertize "No Section 8" when marketing your rental.
Which forces the prospective tenant to call and ask, do you accept section 8, to which you reply "no", which just wastes everyone's time.
--71.217.xxx.xx |
No Section 8 (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Feb 9, 2021 11:42 AM
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That's right.
But if you don't answer the phone you don't have to deal with it. --50.82.xxx.xxx |
No Section 8 (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Feb 9, 2021 12:01 PM
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Yep, what WMH said....see my post "ACGTV pt 1".
The trick I find is sometimes they don't ask up front about Sec 8 on the voicemail; they'd just ask if 123 Anywhere Ave was still available. I'd call back, we'd get into a chat and after awhile it came out they were Sec 8. To which I would respond that yes we'd take it but would not agree to hold the property until they were 100% approved and move-in was less than 2 weeks away. That auto-DQ'd most of them since Sec 8 takes 3-4 weeks to set up an inspection, and my vacancies usually get filled in one week or less. They expect you to eat a month's vacancy in exchange for Uncle Sugar's 'guaranteed rent,' which all of us know is only guaranteed until something changes.
Rather than waste time, I take it a step further than simply not answering the phone. On our website "Showing" request form, they are required to answer what is their household income that can be documented (W-2s, bank statements, etc). What I've found in 90% of the time, they will NOT include their Sec 8 voucher as part of income, which leaves them short of the 3x the monthly rent minimum. I simply don't respond to Showing requests where the rent is $700 and they put down income of $750.
I don't call back anyone who leaves VMs about vacancies. Our message is clear: go to our website to fill out a showing request. If they do that, I respond via Text and Email. If they don't, they have screened themselves out as uncooperative. "Your rules/process don't apply to me" is not the kind of tenant I need.
--107.216.xxx.xxx |
No Section 8 (by Mike [PA]) Posted on: Feb 9, 2021 12:31 PM
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That's correct.
I'm certain it's just a matter of time our govt will require LL's to take S8 if they wish to continue their LL business.
It's called license revoking
--24.115.xx.xxx |
No Section 8 (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Feb 9, 2021 12:56 PM
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One of the websites i advertise on either Zumper or Apartments. Com. Has a box that you must pick ___section 8 allowed. I thought it was an odd thing to ask. --172.56.xx.xx |
No Section 8 (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Feb 9, 2021 12:59 PM
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Mike,matter of time? in NY i cant deny for source of income meaning i cant deny section 8 or welfare,i cant even deny for someone having an eviction on there record --72.231.xxx.xxx |
No Section 8 (by Mike [PA]) Posted on: Feb 9, 2021 1:11 PM
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Ken
Just another business ruined by liberal policies. --24.115.xx.xxx |
No Section 8 (by Lynn [MA]) Posted on: Feb 9, 2021 1:59 PM
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You couldn't do that in MA --71.184.xxx.xx |
No Section 8 (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Feb 9, 2021 2:34 PM
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I used to like Section 8. You would get your property inspected. Then if a section 8 applicant showed up, you were ready to go (if they had their end complete). Now, you get the applicant and then schedule the inspection. I get mine rented a lot quicker than the section 8 inspection so, in effect, I haven't accepted Section 8 in many years.
In my ads I say "property has not been section 8 inspected". --72.70.xxx.xxx |
No Section 8 (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Feb 9, 2021 3:51 PM
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Most areas vacancy rates are really low where the rental unit or house is rented in a short period of time. Government always works slowly where inspection will take some time where by that time a tenant is paying rent. As long as vacancy rates are low then a market paying tenant is the best option. --99.236.xxx.xxx |
No Section 8 (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Feb 9, 2021 4:47 PM
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In VA we may no longer discriminate based on source of income.
I would not mention anything in the ad. --68.229.xxx.xxx |
No Section 8 (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Feb 9, 2021 6:23 PM
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If you don't want Section 8 tenants, all you have to do is advertise that you only do MTM agreements. All Sec. 8 coordinators are requiring LL's to offer 1 year lease at a minimum. --68.63.xxx.xxx |
No Section 8 (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Feb 9, 2021 6:37 PM
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Roy,not that simple i am required to accomodate there need to have a 1 year lease.I tell them section 8 is fine then i give them an app like anyone else and they never seem to be able to fill it out completely,not my problem --72.231.xxx.xxx |
No Section 8 (by PG [SC]) Posted on: Feb 9, 2021 6:45 PM
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Roy - Do you think that is a national policy?
If it is applicable to SC that would be another good reason to go to MTM. I have never taken Section 8 - had several to ask - I politely said no - with no push back. --184.21.xx.xx |
No Section 8 (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Feb 9, 2021 11:11 PM
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The decision to accept Section 8 is voluntary, if you choose not to participate in the Section 8 program, just say so and that is it. End of story. --68.63.xxx.xxx |
No Section 8 (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Feb 10, 2021 8:24 AM
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Roy,tell them that in the wrong state and you will be getting a large fine from the fair housing people --72.231.xxx.xxx |
No Section 8 (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Feb 10, 2021 10:53 AM
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[[[[[[......I'm certain it's just a matter of time our govt will require LL's to take S8 if they wish to continue their LL business. .......]]]]
I'm happy to take Section 8. All the Section 8 applicant has to do is to pass all of the screening criteria that I apply evenly and fairly to every applicant.
No discrimination around here. --76.178.xxx.xxx |
No Section 8 (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Feb 10, 2021 10:57 AM
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[[[[[[...... The decision to accept Section 8 is voluntary, if you choose not to participate in the Section 8 program, just say so and that is it.......]]]]]]
That is true (so far) under federal law. The problem with that attitude is that several states have a differing attitude about Section 8 and a landlord might be required to accept Section 8 under state law. Usually couched in terms of "source of income"
That "source of income" law is becoming more and more common and it is applying to more and more states, so a landlord had better be darned sure about their state and local laws. --76.178.xxx.xxx |
No Section 8 (by don [PA]) Posted on: Feb 10, 2021 2:57 PM
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Philly considers refusing Sec 8 to be discriminating on source of income. --70.90.xx.xxx |
No Section 8 (by MC [PA]) Posted on: Feb 10, 2021 8:11 PM
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We post that we are not currently working with Section 8. It is not just a matter of income-it is also an agency involved with their own inspections and rules. We also post minimum criteria and requirements. The way I see it, let's not waste each others time. However if you fill out my app/credit report, after paying for it, and I find out in 2 minutes you lied, I do not feel bad at all. --73.230.xxx.xx |
No Section 8 (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Feb 10, 2021 8:43 PM
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If you were registered with your local Sec. 8 office (like I am), then yes, denying someone on 'source of income' could be an issue. However, if you never registered yourself with the Sec. 8 office and then 'source of income is not an issue' only because you are not participating in the program to be begin with.
Here to get registered with Sec.8, a LL has to visit the local HUD office (every city has one), fill out government HUD forms and then be interviewed by the Section 8 coordinator who will explain to you how the Section 8 program works. It will be this coordinator who will tell you to your face 'what you can and can not do' with Section 8 tenants. If you don't like what the coordinator is telling you, you get up and walk out. If you agree with it, you will sign your name on the dotted line and only then you will become an official Section 8 landlord. Your name and phone number will be put on a bulletin board where Section 8 prospects will see it and they call you!
--68.63.xxx.xxx |
No Section 8 (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Feb 11, 2021 1:09 AM
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Here in PA, we can discriminate based on source of income. In a hot market, makes no sense to accept section 8, so I don't. I have enough inspections to deal with so I'm not signing up for additional ones. Plus, I'm doing only m2m now. --209.122.xx.xxx |
No Section 8 (by Nellie [ME]) Posted on: Feb 11, 2021 11:37 AM
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2 of my units don’t qualify because to access the third bedroom you must walk through the larger of two bedrooms. Another unit is a spacious unit that rents WAY above section 8 limits. My other two units fit criteria, but no one ever qualifies. Also, section 8 doesn’t like one of my lease clauses about the potential to increase rent if there is a sharp increase in utility costs (particularly heat, but also water/sewer). I haven’t been challenged to this point. --70.20.xx.xx |
No Section 8 (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Feb 11, 2021 11:56 AM
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What I don't like about Section 8 is a time wasting issue with the local HUD office. If a Section 8 tenant has a job and gets a .10 cent raise, that 1 dime changes the equation on how much rent HUD pays and how much the tenant pays. Also, if a Section 8 tenant has any change in family members that move in and out, that also changes the formula that HUD uses to calculate how much HUD pay and how much tenant pays. Each time these small changes happen, I have to go to the HUD office and sign my name to bear witness to these changes. They can't fax or e-mail this change document, I have to go there in person. This is why I do not accept Section 8 tenants anymore. --68.63.xxx.xxx |
No Section 8 (by don [PA]) Posted on: Feb 11, 2021 2:20 PM
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GKARL---Not in all of Pa. Local statutes. Philly does not allow discriminating on source of income. --73.141.xxx.xx |
No Section 8 (by Steve V [WI]) Posted on: Feb 11, 2021 10:13 PM
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This is an easy one. I simply put “home has not been approved for Section 8” in the rental ad. An inspection has to be done to enroll a property in the program. I’m not discriminating if I can’t take Section 8 because the property hasn’t been approved. --70.92.xx.xx |
No Section 8 (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Feb 16, 2021 3:53 PM
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This is an older posting, but my tenants must have a double rent value deposit ready to movein and some of you know that HUD funded properties are smoke free since 2012 or possibly before that time, so many applicants have already screened themselves off sec8 funding - well until I get a doctors letter advising me the tenant has a disability which smoking can cure, I am still waiting for that one!! --107.199.xxx.xxx |
No Section 8 (by Mick [CA]) Posted on: Feb 20, 2021 10:18 AM
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[[[[by Roy [AL]) Feb 9, 2021 6:23 PM
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If you don't want Section 8 tenants, all you have to do is advertise that you only do MTM agreements. All Sec. 8 coordinators are requiring LL's to offer 1 year lease at a minimum. --68.63.xxx.xxx]]]]
I take S8 tenants in my “C” rentals. The minimum lease requirement per my housing authority is 6-months & that’s what I offer. After the initial lease term, it converts to m2m. --184.176.xx.xxx |
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