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Presigned in application (by Dee Ann [WI]) Jan 9, 2021 10:11 PM
       Presigned in application (by 6x6 [TN]) Jan 10, 2021 10:41 AM
       Presigned in application (by Nicole [PA]) Jan 10, 2021 11:04 AM
       Presigned in application (by Dee Ann [WI]) Jan 10, 2021 11:25 AM
       Presigned in application (by Dee Ann [WI]) Jan 10, 2021 11:30 AM
       Presigned in application (by NE [PA]) Jan 10, 2021 11:52 AM
       Presigned in application (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Jan 10, 2021 12:02 PM
       Presigned in application (by Busy [WI]) Jan 10, 2021 12:41 PM
       Presigned in application (by 6x6 [TN]) Jan 10, 2021 1:48 PM
       Presigned in application (by Jkj [MA]) Jan 10, 2021 1:49 PM
       Presigned in application (by Dee Ann [WI]) Jan 10, 2021 2:00 PM
       Presigned in application (by W [CA]) Jan 10, 2021 3:19 PM
       Presigned in application (by Nicole [PA]) Jan 10, 2021 8:59 PM
       Presigned in application (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Jan 11, 2021 2:29 AM
       Presigned in application (by Dee Ann [WI]) Jan 11, 2021 10:43 PM

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Presigned in application (by Dee Ann [WI]) Posted on: Jan 9, 2021 10:11 PM
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I very much like the thought Rocky proposes in: Pre-signed Vacate Notice. But what if we modified wording. Clear, but Subtle? And make it part of the application, or part of/with [mandated?] disclosures (like politicians do when negotiating to pass a bill, lol). ?Enforceable?...but not in the lease so won't invalidate a lease.

Applicants sign the application. The application states that

their signature grants permission to contact those listed on their application, i.e. for an emergency, who would help pay rent, or help vacate from [insert address], if necessary, due to non-payment of rent or breach of lease.

When I process applications, I always call those listed to verify and as an additional reference.

Is anything in that realm legally workable; thoughts, knowledge?

--186.233.xxx.xx




Presigned in application (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2021 10:41 AM
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I believe this is in Brads lease.

Brad may clarify. --73.120.xx.xxx




Presigned in application (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2021 11:04 AM
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If someone called me because of someone else's late rent or asking me to help nudge that person move, I'd just block their number.

It's always good to look outside the box but in reality, a person is responsible for themselves and searching for someone else to accept responsibility is probably a waste of time and energy most situations.

--72.70.xxx.xxx




Presigned in application (by Dee Ann [WI]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2021 11:25 AM
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It has helped me in the past to have "who will help pay rent if necessary" on my application. In screening, when the parent said "no"...I did not select him.

Another tenant ended up in the hospital years ago, I had met his mom and she was listed on that line of the application. She made sure the rent was paid until he was out and functioning again.

Another tenant was overseas and couldn't get home due to the COVID restrictions. Her mom sent the check.

And in many more circumstances.

In one case not mentioned, it was older adults (40ish) who I think it kept their spending in check so that I would never need to contact their parents for help. They never missed a beat. --198.54.xxx.xxx




Presigned in application (by Dee Ann [WI]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2021 11:30 AM
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My father taught me one of many valuable gifts, persistence. If you can't solve it one way, try another and another and another until you find the solution. --198.54.xxx.xxx




Presigned in application (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2021 11:52 AM
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Nicole, I'm not against or above a move like this. I've had family members pay tenants rents. --70.44.xxx.xx




Presigned in application (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2021 12:02 PM
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I ask on my application, who to contact in case of emergency. That would be who you get in touch with if there is a problem with the tenant, not their work or social references. --76.178.xx.xx




Presigned in application (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2021 12:41 PM
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Hmmm...I was discussing something like this with someone yesterday. My kids ( grown) are very responsible. But, if a landlord called asking to see if I would be responsible for them in future, I might decline. The person I was having the conversation with yesterday agrees, was lamenting that the family members who keep bailing their kids out have nothing but kids who need to be bailed out.... --70.92.xxx.xxx




Presigned in application (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2021 1:48 PM
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True statement Busy --73.120.xx.xxx




Presigned in application (by Jkj [MA]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2021 1:49 PM
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I think if you can make it work for you, go for it. I think how itís received depends a lot on your tenant pool, itís more likely to be accepted by C/D tenants. I wouldnít add it to my application for that reason. Even if it only works with a few of your tenants itís worth the cost of the ink to put it in the app. --173.48.xxx.xxx




Presigned in application (by Dee Ann [WI]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2021 2:00 PM
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Woodsmoke, that's precisely what I meant...the words can be better tweaked than mine.

Busy, I agree, too many parents catering to their grown kids. The strong individual I am today is because at an early age I had to take things into my own hands. My parents had enough of their own problems to deal with. --186.233.xxx.xx




Presigned in application (by W [CA]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2021 3:19 PM
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I've had questionable applicants have their Dad guarantee the rental agreement. In one case, the tenant was on welfare and not paying the rent, so his dad stepped up and paid the rent when I called him. Finally said he couldn't subsidize his layabout son anymore so the son was evicted and ended up living in a tent in the dad's backyard . . . Dad found out his son was a meth user the expensive way. Ask the applicant if his Dad will guarantee the rental agreement - wish I had done this more. --174.65.x.xxx




Presigned in application (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2021 8:59 PM
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my response wasn't meant to be exactly as some thought.

In the scenarios above, such as the out of country tenant, that tenant probably contacted her mother. My thought was that you would need to hunt down the mom and I doubt that type of scenario seldom gets the results you want. Responsible people are responsible ... getting others to accept responsibility for the irresponsible has to be an upward climb. --72.70.xxx.xxx




Presigned in application (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Jan 11, 2021 2:29 AM
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Dee,

My lease is clear: the first page is 4 Emergency Contacts per adult, no overlap and cannot name each other. By signing it they agree "These trusted persons may accept messages, notices, deliveries on my behalf."

Has worked BEAUTIFULLY since we started it.

For intent to vacate we ONLY accept the form I include in the lease - no verbal, texts, phone...let's communicate clearly in writing.

BRAD

--73.102.xxx.xxx




Presigned in application (by Dee Ann [WI]) Posted on: Jan 11, 2021 10:43 PM
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Thanks Brad! I can work that into my lease. I still want something on my application that states "who will help pay rent if necessary" as I use this as part of my screening and Plan B if Plan A (the tenant) has a problem.

Nicole, I whole heartedly agree, responsible people are responsible. The tenant out of the country did contact her mother, but had also put her on the emergency contact. The other tenants relatives I had to contact had also listed them as emergency contacts. Suprisingly to me as I hated to have to make the call, when I have, they've been cordial and cooperative.

One time I had an applicant that listed his mom as the person who would help pay rent. So, before I approved him as a tenant I called her. She said "absolutely not"; he can move back home, but I won't pay for him somewhere else. And that's the applicant I denied. --75.11.xx.xx



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