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Garage Remote (by Krystal [OR]) Jan 9, 2021 8:36 PM
       Garage Remote (by NE [PA]) Jan 9, 2021 8:40 PM
       Garage Remote (by Krystal [OR]) Jan 9, 2021 8:42 PM
       Garage Remote (by Ken [NY]) Jan 9, 2021 8:50 PM
       Garage Remote (by Krystal [OR]) Jan 9, 2021 8:55 PM
       Garage Remote (by Barb [MO]) Jan 9, 2021 9:08 PM
       Garage Remote (by NE [PA]) Jan 9, 2021 9:13 PM
       Garage Remote (by Robert J [CA]) Jan 9, 2021 9:35 PM
       Garage Remote (by Krystal [OR]) Jan 9, 2021 9:48 PM
       Garage Remote (by Jim in O C [CA]) Jan 10, 2021 12:48 AM
       Garage Remote (by Bonanza [NC]) Jan 10, 2021 7:22 AM
       Garage Remote (by myob [GA]) Jan 10, 2021 7:43 AM
       Garage Remote (by Still Learning [NH]) Jan 10, 2021 7:50 AM
       Garage Remote (by NE [PA]) Jan 10, 2021 7:59 AM
       Garage Remote (by 6x6 [TN]) Jan 10, 2021 10:06 AM
       Garage Remote (by myob [GA]) Jan 10, 2021 10:24 AM
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       Garage Remote (by Allym [NJ]) Jan 10, 2021 11:05 AM
       Garage Remote (by Krystal [OR]) Jan 10, 2021 11:14 AM
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       Garage Remote (by plenty [MO]) Jan 10, 2021 11:39 AM
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       Garage Remote (by NE [PA]) Jan 10, 2021 12:30 PM
       Garage Remote (by Krystal [OR]) Jan 10, 2021 12:33 PM
       Garage Remote (by myob [GA]) Jan 10, 2021 2:05 PM
       Garage Remote (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Jan 10, 2021 3:21 PM
       Garage Remote (by Still Learning [NH]) Jan 10, 2021 4:02 PM
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       Garage Remote (by JB [OR]) Jan 10, 2021 5:49 PM
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       Garage Remote (by myob [GA]) Jan 10, 2021 11:06 PM
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       Garage Remote (by Jkj [MA]) Jan 11, 2021 6:26 PM
       Garage Remote (by Krystal [OR]) Jan 11, 2021 9:31 PM
       Garage Remote (by Dee Ann [WI]) Jan 11, 2021 10:30 PM
       Garage Remote (by Krystal [OR]) Jan 11, 2021 10:48 PM
       Garage Remote (by Tom [ME]) Jan 13, 2021 12:51 PM

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Garage Remote (by Krystal [OR]) Posted on: Jan 9, 2021 8:36 PM
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After a string of car break-ins, the garage remote opener was stolen from the visor in my car. I immediately reported it to the police and my landlady. This was about a month before I was to move out. My landlady had seperated from her husband and needed to move back in to the house that she had been renting to me. I made the calls and got the cost for a new opener ($40) and she asked me to just let her go and get the new remote herself because she wanted to buy two so that she would own two when she moved in. I agreed to let her take $40 out of my deposit for the one that was stolen from me. Fast forward 36 days after I moved out, I receive an "accounting" in the mail where she took almost $400.00 from my deposit to buy herself a brand new garage door motor system! In her statement she said that she found out her garage door system was so outdated that she couldn't find remotes for them so instead bought herself a brand new system with my money. Is this even legal???? --71.84.xxx.xxx




Garage Remote (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 9, 2021 8:40 PM
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You actually sound like a responsible tenant. I would say that with the police report, you don't even owe her the original $40 let alone $400.

--70.44.xxx.xx




Garage Remote (by Krystal [OR]) Posted on: Jan 9, 2021 8:42 PM
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I agree but I really wanted to make this transition as easy for her as I could. She was so sad about her husband walking out and I figured eh... whats 40 bucks.

--71.84.xxx.xxx




Garage Remote (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Jan 9, 2021 8:50 PM
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I think NE got hacked --72.231.xxx.xxx




Garage Remote (by Krystal [OR]) Posted on: Jan 9, 2021 8:55 PM
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Ken, I get it. Landlords are getting screwed left and right. I'm buying a house as we speak and I couldn't imagine being in the position most of you are right now. It takes horrible people to do what tenants are doing. I'm seriously looking for honest opinions. Should I be upset or is what she did fair? --71.84.xxx.xxx




Garage Remote (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Jan 9, 2021 9:08 PM
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Krystal,

She took advantage of you. Paying for a remote would be on you but not a new opener system. You can still get remotes with dip switches, but you have to look for them.

Send a demand letter, then you may need to go to s,all claims court. --67.43.xxx.xxx




Garage Remote (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 9, 2021 9:13 PM
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No Ken, I didn't get hacked on this one. She has a police report. That's the only reason I'd have to side with her. --70.44.xxx.xx




Garage Remote (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Jan 9, 2021 9:35 PM
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There are garage remote suppliers that can match old system with remoter costing between $10 to $50 each, and not $400. New remotes for expensive whole house system can run $90..... Demand your deposit back, the $360 over charge of sue her in small claims court. --47.155.xx.xxx




Garage Remote (by Krystal [OR]) Posted on: Jan 9, 2021 9:48 PM
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Yes Robert, I included that in my evidence and examples of them for court. I guess a part of me just wants to be sure I am seeing things the right way before I go to court. I filed already but wanted input in case I'm out of line --71.84.xxx.xxx




Garage Remote (by Jim in O C [CA]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2021 12:48 AM
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It is not your problem that her garage door motor was very old. --99.23.xxx.x




Garage Remote (by Bonanza [NC]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2021 7:22 AM
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Heck if it was me and I was replacing the garage door motor (essentially because I wanted to) I wouldn't even charge you for the lost remote.

In my last turn over, the tenant's kid had broken the light fixture globe. I just replace the whole light fixture with a ceiling fan and didn't charge the tenant because I didn't like the existing fixture and I wanted to replace it. A globe was $12 and a new ceiling fan fixture was $56.

I don't sweat the small stuff. --65.188.xxx.xxx




Garage Remote (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2021 7:43 AM
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Can I mention this is a LL site to HELP LL's!!!!!

Go find a tenant site and bother them. Gee's people.

Nothing like cutting our own throats..... --99.103.xxx.xxx




Garage Remote (by Still Learning [NH]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2021 7:50 AM
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I disagree with NE. Just because you have a police report doesnít change the fact it was missing upon termination of the lease, you would still be responsible in my opinion. Document your research because replacing a remote dies not equal a new system in my opinion. If she had come back to you and said I canít find a remote that works therefore I need a new system, you would have had an opportunity to produce one that worked or negotiate a split the two of you could have both lived with. Is there more being taken out as well or is the lawsuit for the $400? --73.17.xx.xxx




Garage Remote (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2021 7:59 AM
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Still learning, if she was robbed and the stove was stolen and she filed a police report, would you charge her?

I don't know.

I'm all for charging tenants for whatever I can. This is one of those gray areas though, but that's just my opinion. --70.44.xxx.xx




Garage Remote (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2021 10:06 AM
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Did you have renters insurance? Just wandering.

I would think that a remote could be found.

If Krystal has a police report and proof of theft including insurance if used for auto repair(auto insurance should cover remote cost as well) and local crime reports, then I also would believe her and just charge for the remote.

If Krystal was an outstanding tenant and/or I wanted a new opener anyway then I would just forget about the remote.

No matter what, if the theft did happen, then there is no way that Krystal should be held responsible for a whole new opener.

The real answer is, it depends.

myob, I agree with you if it is a deadbeat tenant asking for advice on here and trying to stick it to the LL but in a case like this(if it is true) then what is wrong with it. --73.120.xx.xxx




Garage Remote (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2021 10:24 AM
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6 bye i see this as an owner trying to stick the tenant.

COULDN'T FIND AN OPENER control so brought whole mechanism?

We could tell the tenant how to reallymake the LL pay and big time but we are here to help LL's not hurt them.

--99.103.xxx.xxx




Garage Remote (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2021 10:24 AM
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6 bye i see this as an owner trying to stick the tenant.

COULDN'T FIND AN OPENER control so brought whole mechanism?

We could tell the tenant how to reallymake the LL pay and big time but we are here to help LL's not hurt them.

--99.103.xxx.xxx




Garage Remote (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2021 11:05 AM
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I was told that it's a real thing when I tried to get another. Door people had one more which they sold me and said not to lose it as they don't make it anymore. But it's not your expense. I would fight this in some kind of court. You would get double your security back here in NJ. It's not your problem that she let her equipment get outdated. Fight this. Tell her you consulted with authorities and you would like the money immediately or u are getting a lawyer who will get you double ur security. Check ORs LL tenant laws online. You did not damage her opener. By the way, people, Amazon is kicking Parler off line today at 11:59 Pacific. It has space on their cloud service Last conservative free speech site. Please stop using Amazon --71.104.xx.xxx




Garage Remote (by Krystal [OR]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2021 11:14 AM
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To answer some questions I was not a deadbeat tenant. She wrote me a glowing reference letter including that she had been to my house several times and I'd always kept her home in great condition and I always paid my rent in full and in many instances early those are her words. I would like to add that she didn't give me proper notice to move but I did it as quickly as I could because her circumstances were dire. She wrote me a letter thanking me and telling me how much she appreciated me for my willingness to move so she could move back in. her husband had left her high and dry and she couldn't afford the home she was living in. If I didn't move quickly her and her kids would have nowhere to go. I have amazing rental history. I also work for a housing program and we have more than 300 tenants under our roofs. of course when you're in the situation with your own landlord you start to question your thinking. I appreciate those of you who didn't attack me and just gave me your honest opinion --71.84.xxx.xxx




Garage Remote (by Krystal [OR]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2021 11:14 AM
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To answer some questions I was not a deadbeat tenant. She wrote me a glowing reference letter including that she had been to my house several times and I'd always kept her home in great condition and I always paid my rent in full and in many instances early those are her words. I would like to add that she didn't give me proper notice to move but I did it as quickly as I could because her circumstances were dire. She wrote me a letter thanking me and telling me how much she appreciated me for my willingness to move so she could move back in. her husband had left her high and dry and she couldn't afford the home she was living in. If I didn't move quickly her and her kids would have nowhere to go. I have amazing rental history. I also work for a housing program and we have more than 300 tenants under our roofs. of course when you're in the situation with your own landlord you start to question your thinking. I appreciate those of you who didn't attack me and just gave me your honest opinion --71.84.xxx.xxx




Garage Remote (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2021 11:39 AM
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I wouldn't like this at all. It maybe the fact that your opener was not returned that indeed the LL was advised by installer of replacement. I would call her and offer half cost for replacement as it was working, it does seem like there should be a police report if indeed there was theft. You both seem reasonable and I'm sure you an work it out. --172.56.xx.xxx




Garage Remote (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2021 12:20 PM
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Yes, I would charge for the opener. If tenant had a police report, her auto insurance could pay for the opener. I wasn't the one to lose it and the tenant has to return the property to me with a remote.

If (a big if) an opener could not be obtained for the door, I would charge the tenant to replace the opener. However, the door opener would have to be depreciated for age. If it is too old to replace the remote, it is probably old enough to be fully depreciated.

Please note, I'd be mighty ticked off at the tenant who made me buy an entire new opener system when I had a perfectly good one that would not have needed to be replaced, maybe for many more years. --76.178.xx.xx




Garage Remote (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2021 12:27 PM
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[[[[[........ if she was robbed and the stove was stolen and she filed a police report, would you charge her?.....]]]]]]

You betcha.

I provided a house with a working stove, I get a house back with a working stove.

If thrives took the stove, she can turn the police report over to her insurance company and they will replace the stove.

It is common for tenants to take the stove with them when they move, or to sell it, and claim it was stolen. Too bad, tenant, Either you or your insurance company are paying for the stove that you were responsible to take good care of.

Really NE? All your appliances can disappear and too bad for you as long as the tenant claims they were stolen, the landlord is out the money? --76.178.xx.xx




Garage Remote (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2021 12:30 PM
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Well of course you can turn your appliances over to your insurance. But how can you back charge a tenant for costs related to a burglary?

I'm with you on tenants auto insurance covering the remote. Overlooked on my part. Definitely not the entire unit. --70.44.xxx.xx




Garage Remote (by Krystal [OR]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2021 12:33 PM
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My auto insurance is an excellent suggestion I appreciate that and I'll call them first thing tomorrow. I also had renters insurance but when I suggested using it she told me my deductibles going to cost a lot more than a remote because at that time we only believed a remote was needed so we didn't go that route. We've already been through mediation but after hearing the suggestion I will still recommend it --71.84.xxx.xxx




Garage Remote (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2021 2:05 PM
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R u all for real? The unit was so old (fully depreciated) parts can't be found. ( I doubt that but will go with that)

The LL stole 400.00 of yours -- minus 25.00 for replacing normal remote opener.

If you have the bullocks-- and your state allows-- sue her for 3 times the amount she ILLEGALLY WITH HELD = 1200.00 + plus attorney fees. Hopefully your state is one that allows 3 times for this illegal step made by your LL.

Anyone who read this post knows you can't do this kind of stuff.

AND really who breaks in and steals just the stove-- bad example. Lets get real here. Have any of you really been in front of a judge????? The judge would laugh you right out of court-- but first make you pay 1200.00. Your credibility would be shot..in that court. --99.103.xxx.xxx




Garage Remote (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2021 3:21 PM
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The landlord probably shouldn't have done that - but if it was as simple as you believe - why didn't you just do it yourself?

There are times like when there is only a small patch that needs to get done that forces the small job to grow in scope.........that entire wall would have to get painted if the small area couldn't be touched up.

I understand you might be frustrated with this matter - you are not enjoying the new item......but you probably enjoyed the rent associated with having a dated system on the garage

--24.101.xxx.xx




Garage Remote (by Still Learning [NH]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2021 4:02 PM
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NE, Iím not saying if I would have charged my tenant or not, the question was ďis it legalĒ. Iím not a lawyer or a judge, but the remote was there at the beginning and not at the conclusion. I did have an incident at a rental that required a full replacement of a front door and rear sliding glass doors. Tenant said stalker, police report said domestic violence, no renterís insurance, my lawyer advised to keep the full security deposit. I ate the additional cost and told the victimís city advocate any restitution could go to the tenant. The advocate questioned my right to keep the security deposit but very quickly backed off once they heard I consulted my lawyer. A police report on itís own does not necessarily absolve responsibility. --73.17.xx.xxx




Garage Remote (by Still Learning [NH]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2021 4:05 PM
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Mediation didnít solve a $400 issue? Are both you and the landlord digging in for all or nothing? This seems crazy to me that a $400 issue is going to go to court. --73.17.xx.xxx




Garage Remote (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2021 5:49 PM
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I second Ken's and several others' response here. NE, you're a victim of the Bodysnatchers I believe. Don't trust yourself until we can get confirmation either way.

Something that is/was working perfectly fine that now must be replaced would seem to me to fall on the tenant who let it happen, whether accidental or intentional...no matter.

While I likely wouldn't charge you for the entire cost of the replacement (I would likely deduct for age of the opener), this could have been avoided had OP replaced the remoter herself and had it reprogrammed to a new code.

Worst answer by a mile: Allym

--73.25.xx.xxx




Garage Remote (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2021 6:24 PM
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Depreciation is not a factor. Returning the property in same condition. I would charge for the entire replacement if parts and or opener not available. Which ever was the cheapest, fix or replace. Your LL seems to have handled it correctly. --172.58.xx.xx




Garage Remote (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2021 11:06 PM
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Plenty -- dep has everything to do with it in front of a REAL judge.Forget it being a door opener. Lets say its carpet. If the tenant damages the carpet and the carpet is 12 years old-- do you think you can charge them 1800.00 for new carpet-- well no. No judge or person with common sense would charge.

You have recouped the cost of carpet, stove, dishwasher etc.. So the thinking is what have you lost? You got a tax break for the cost.

What would have happened if the tenant sent in 30.00 for new replacement control and not allowed the LL to go shopping for the best opener...... courts don't allow this stuff-- well ours don't. The judges are pretty smart. --99.103.xxx.xxx




Garage Remote (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Jan 11, 2021 1:17 AM
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Some guy once said, "Nothing like cutting our own throats....."

Now who's looking so smart? --73.25.xx.xxx




Garage Remote (by LisaFL [FL]) Posted on: Jan 11, 2021 12:49 PM
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Ridiculous. First, I donít believe an opener cannot be found. They can be found.

Sounds like she wanted a new opener and used this as an excuse to have you pay for it. It still worked, you didnít break the opener.

If I were the landlord and was moving in and wanted a new opener I would have told you to forget about it.

If the remote truly could not be found and the opener was truly ancient and now needed to be replaced because you didnít have the remote, I would charge you the cost of the remote and put it towards a new opener. Especially if you were a good tenant. If you were not a good tenant and losing or breaking things was common with you- Iíd charge you 25% of the replacement cost.

I mean what was she thinking? Iíd challenge this if itís worth it to you. --216.186.xxx.xx




Garage Remote (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Jan 11, 2021 2:38 PM
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I went surfing through Amazon and assuming the garage door opener is the really old kind, as in from 1980 through the mid 1990s, you can still get a remote for as low as about $18.

Kristal, the issue is you should have just bought a replacement remote and programmed it. Then you would not have needed to go through all this.

Meanwhile, take proof of the replacement cost of a remote with you when you go to court. --67.43.xxx.xxx




Garage Remote (by Jkj [MA]) Posted on: Jan 11, 2021 3:54 PM
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No good deed goes unpunished, you should have just bought a opener. --174.242.xx.xx




Garage Remote (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Jan 11, 2021 4:22 PM
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Krystal said:

".... I made the calls and got the cost for a new opener ($40) and she asked me to just let her go and get the new remote herself because she wanted to buy two so that she would own two when she moved in...."

I am guessing that this is why Krystal did not buy one.

I am thinking that the LL had intentions of buying a new opener from the beginning with that statement. JMO --73.120.xx.xxx




Garage Remote (by Krystal [OR]) Posted on: Jan 11, 2021 4:46 PM
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6x6... That is the case yes but I am really taking to heart what you guys are saying. I could have prevented this by just purchasing the remote myself. Wish I would have thought this one through. Stinkin' hindsight --97.90.xx.xx




Garage Remote (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Jan 11, 2021 4:52 PM
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Krystal, you seem like a reasonable person. I think you should be able to work out a compromise with your landlady. Just continue to remain respectful and composed and remind her of how you were helpful when needed.

Best of luck...and congrats on your new home! --73.25.xx.xxx




Garage Remote (by Jkj [MA]) Posted on: Jan 11, 2021 6:26 PM
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Krystal, you said you called and got prices for a new garage door opener, was that price you got for the actual opener needed?i If you got a price for the actual opener needed you need to have a conversation with your landlord that you found the opener needed at XYZ store for $40.00, and you are not paying $400 for an entire new system. Tell her you will contest her accounting of the SD if she doesnít refund you the balance due. Best of luck with the new home. --173.48.xxx.xxx




Garage Remote (by Krystal [OR]) Posted on: Jan 11, 2021 9:31 PM
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jkj,

Change in events. Yes I called HER garage door supplier that she gave me the number to.

On a whim this afternoon I decided to call the garage company again to see if they would tell me if thats really what happened. He knew who and what I was talking about and is now testifying on my behalf next week. I couldnt believe it, and turns out the model she had was a 2007 and he could get her remotes if she had wanted to but she would have had to wait up to a month and she didnt want to. I'm completely blown away --71.84.xxx.xxx




Garage Remote (by Dee Ann [WI]) Posted on: Jan 11, 2021 10:30 PM
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That's just nasty that your LL did that; it's why LL's get a bad name.

Good for you to check it out further; congrats on becoming a new homeowner! --75.11.xx.xx




Garage Remote (by Krystal [OR]) Posted on: Jan 11, 2021 10:48 PM
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I honestly did not expect that and I'm happy to know the truth. I have had more than 10 landlords this is the only one I've ever had who did anything shady ever! --71.84.xxx.xxx




Garage Remote (by Tom [ME]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2021 12:51 PM
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That's because all LLs are pussycats.

ESPECIALLY on this site! --74.78.xxx.xx



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