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Left the toilet run (by Willy [PA]) Dec 26, 2020 7:39 AM
       Left the toilet run (by Richard [MI]) Dec 26, 2020 7:52 AM
       Left the toilet run (by myob [GA]) Dec 26, 2020 7:53 AM
       Left the toilet run (by RB [MI]) Dec 26, 2020 8:10 AM
       Left the toilet run (by T [IN]) Dec 26, 2020 8:21 AM
       Left the toilet run (by Tom [ME]) Dec 26, 2020 8:32 AM
       Left the toilet run (by Nellie [ME]) Dec 26, 2020 9:26 AM
       Left the toilet run (by LindaJ [NY]) Dec 26, 2020 9:31 AM
       Left the toilet run (by myob [GA]) Dec 26, 2020 9:52 AM
       Left the toilet run (by Pat [CA]) Dec 26, 2020 11:03 AM
       Left the toilet run (by Robert J [CA]) Dec 26, 2020 11:04 AM
       Left the toilet run (by Willy [PA]) Dec 26, 2020 11:16 AM
       Left the toilet run (by Willy [PA]) Dec 26, 2020 11:21 AM
       Left the toilet run (by S i d [MO]) Dec 26, 2020 11:27 AM
       Left the toilet run (by Diahann [MD]) Dec 26, 2020 11:39 AM
       Left the toilet run (by Hoosier [IN]) Dec 26, 2020 3:26 PM
       Left the toilet run (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Dec 26, 2020 3:27 PM
       Left the toilet run (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Dec 26, 2020 4:59 PM
       Left the toilet run (by Robert J [CA]) Dec 26, 2020 5:16 PM
       Left the toilet run (by Willy [PA]) Dec 26, 2020 7:52 PM
       Left the toilet run (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Dec 26, 2020 9:06 PM
       Left the toilet run (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Dec 26, 2020 9:27 PM
       Left the toilet run (by pete [OR]) Dec 27, 2020 12:31 AM
       Left the toilet run (by Tarheel T [NC]) Dec 28, 2020 9:22 AM
       Left the toilet run (by David L. [OH]) Dec 28, 2020 9:29 AM
       Left the toilet run (by MJ [PA]) Jan 10, 2021 12:13 PM
       Left the toilet run (by Jkj [MA]) Jan 10, 2021 1:36 PM

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Left the toilet run (by Willy [PA]) Posted on: Dec 26, 2020 7:39 AM
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I have a six unit near Pgh. and I got a water bill three times as large as normal. It turns out a two year old toilet would not shut off.

Problem too was the two twenty yo tenants could not fathom what that funny trickling sound was for a week and never called.

Should I try and charge these two for not helping and being stupid?

--73.79.xx.xxx




Left the toilet run (by Richard [MI]) Posted on: Dec 26, 2020 7:52 AM
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Yup. Stupid tax/fee.

The worst outcome is that you don;t get the money and you'tr already at that point.

If they don't pay, take it from the deposit. --75.7.xx.xx




Left the toilet run (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Dec 26, 2020 7:53 AM
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Surely in your lease there's a paragraph about tenants responsibility for leaks and notifying LL? Would you allow a tenant to just let water run on the floor for months?

What does the age of the toilet have to do with the cost of apples? or oranges?

OH I see-- your trying to blame the toilet??? Not the stupid tenants?

I would send a bill with the paragraph circled along with their signature agreeing to it.

I would also send a reminder letter to other tenants-- noting their respocibility to the lease and property. --99.103.xxx.xxx




Left the toilet run (by RB [MI]) Posted on: Dec 26, 2020 8:10 AM
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Ya get to pick up where Mom and Dad left off. --199.192.xxx.xxx




Left the toilet run (by T [IN]) Posted on: Dec 26, 2020 8:21 AM
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This bill is yours... downside of owning a multi unit with out the utilities separated out. Be looking at sub meter the water soon as you can. Might cost 2k with the meters, but if you had the meters... here is your bill. --76.77.xxx.xxx




Left the toilet run (by Tom [ME]) Posted on: Dec 26, 2020 8:32 AM
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Happened to me twice. Check with water company. Mine cut bill in half when proof of repair was shown. (Over a period of several years, they won't do this routinely.)

TOILET! Both times. --98.11.xxx.xxx




Left the toilet run (by Nellie [ME]) Posted on: Dec 26, 2020 9:26 AM
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Toilets will get you every time. Discourage tenants from using those in tank bowl cleaners. They usually contain bleach, which degrades the rubber parts and causes leaks. --70.16.xxx.xxx




Left the toilet run (by LindaJ [NY]) Posted on: Dec 26, 2020 9:31 AM
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Tenants are tenants for a reason. A lot of times that reason is because they can't handle home repairs. I too can get the water bill reduced with proof of repair. In fact, as soon as the bill it printed and before it is sent out, the water department has called me to let me know the bill is much higher than normal.

It is kind of hard to prove that they used all that water in a multi-unit. Yes, the toilet was running, but still others could have used some of that extra water.

--108.4.xxx.xxx




Left the toilet run (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Dec 26, 2020 9:52 AM
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Linda spoken like a real tenant. The water bill was 3 X's higher than normal.

Tenants are tenants so I can train them how to pay when they ignore common sense items.

Wish you could see when I send a 320.00 bill for emptying out a septic tank over flowing due to toilet running. --99.103.xxx.xxx




Left the toilet run (by Pat [CA]) Posted on: Dec 26, 2020 11:03 AM
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There are companies that bill tenants for utilities. One in my area only charges $10. a month per unit. --66.74.xx.xxx




Left the toilet run (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Dec 26, 2020 11:04 AM
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As a licensed plumbing contractor, a 42 year landlord, an investor, property manager and Contractor -- I can say your problem is your manager (yourself) and NOT the Tenants.

If they didn't know the toilets were running and you hadn't a clue, why do you call them "stupid"?

There were several things YOU DIDN'T DO OR BOTHER TO CHECK OUT. Other owners do any of you have a regular schedule where you check to see if you have leaks? Water loss?

What I do at least once every month or two is look at the Utility's Water Meter. It has many dials indicating several things. Besides the numeric reading of the water use it has two types of clock handles and a FLOW METER. Yes, a Red or Black Triangle indicator if water is flowing. A drip it won't register, but an open faucet or running toilet will scream movement.

So with my larger buildings with lots of toilets I will do a drive by when most of the tenants are asleep. Or I will pay a tenant who get's home at 3am from a late shift take a picture of my water meter and email it to me from their cell phone.

1 toilet leaking can run me $25-$50 per month. Since I get billed every two months -- that comes to $50 go $100 every billing cycle. Since I have dozens of toilets in larger buildings, I could loose in water and sewer charges thousands of dollars every month... --47.155.xx.xxx




Left the toilet run (by Willy [PA]) Posted on: Dec 26, 2020 11:16 AM
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I have a clause in my lease that says Tenant is responsible for excessive or unreasonable use of utilities paid for by landlord. Would that help? --73.79.xx.xxx




Left the toilet run (by Willy [PA]) Posted on: Dec 26, 2020 11:21 AM
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Dear Robert, My water meter is in a enclosed pit in the back yard with a foot of snow on it. --73.79.xx.xxx




Left the toilet run (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Dec 26, 2020 11:27 AM
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Tenants should be charged for not reporting the problem. It's even easier when you get them to admit to it so you have proof if it ever ends up in court. See if you can get it on a text message or email and file for future reference.

My lease is clear: tenants pay for waste of utilities if problems are not reported in a timely manner. They're also responsible for clogs in drains and toilets. Had a tenant flushing sewer mice down her toilet. She's been there about 8 months now. Took awhile, but it all finally backed up! Her response? "Oh my, I never KNEW!"

That's always what they say. They will never say, "Gee, I caused this problem and extra expense, so I should pay for it." My job is to educate them and keep myself from becoming a financial disaster from their lack of knowledge.

Bill 'em.

--107.216.xxx.xxx




Left the toilet run (by Diahann [MD]) Posted on: Dec 26, 2020 11:39 AM
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We put a clause in our lease' "Tenant responsible for first $100 of repairs ". We have not charged the tenant in the past. Its It's really there is case of a situation where they were negligent. New lease for new tenant says, " tenant will pay if negligent " --174.251.xx.xxx




Left the toilet run (by Hoosier [IN]) Posted on: Dec 26, 2020 3:26 PM
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Good discussion. All our SFH units have utilities as tenant's responsibility. However, I've added yet another lease clause about liability if they do not notify us if they hear unusual noises, smell unusual odors, or notice abnormal operation of items. --99.92.xxx.xxx




Left the toilet run (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Dec 26, 2020 3:27 PM
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Just a recommendation......the toilet just didn't run. Either the flapper is needing replacing or the chain can need adjusting so it does not get stuck under the flapper.

There is one thing worse than you getting burned once in your multi-unit.....it is you getting burned twice - or more.

Check out the flappers in the other units. --24.101.xxx.xx




Left the toilet run (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Dec 26, 2020 4:59 PM
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Consider installing Niagara Flapper Less toilets which use a bucket that tilts where there is no flapper. A one time cost where over time will get money back then some. Tenants do not care about a running toilet where have had good results with Niagara Flapper Less toilets. View some videos on You Tube about Niagara Flapper Less toilets. --99.236.xxx.xxx




Left the toilet run (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Dec 26, 2020 5:16 PM
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Willy [PA] Yours is the best excuse I've ever gotten here on Mr. Landlord! "enclosed pit in the back yard with a foot of snow on it". I wonder through how does the utility company read meters during your months of snow?

If this were my property and the meter was in the back yard and I knew it was going to snow, than "maybe" I'd put a trash can upside down over the meter. So when it came time to read it, I could move the covering to expose the meter closet.

Or I'd install a flow meter in the water main closer to the structure.. --47.155.xx.xxx




Left the toilet run (by Willy [PA]) Posted on: Dec 26, 2020 7:52 PM
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Robert, The water Co. has an antenna on their meter so they just drive by to down load the reading.

Maybe I could buy the gizmo? Naa. too much.

It was not the flapper. I pulled the float from the top and it would not shut off the water. --73.79.xx.xxx




Left the toilet run (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Dec 26, 2020 9:06 PM
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Another option but difficult to set up is install leak sentry fill valve that shut off when the flapper leaks. Difficult to set up where the tank will fill when the lever is depressed if the flapper leaks. Test with siphon hose. --99.236.xxx.xxx




Left the toilet run (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Dec 26, 2020 9:27 PM
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Fluid master 400LS leak sentry fill valve where view videos on You Tube how to install fill valve. The flapper maybe have to be changed out as well. --99.236.xxx.xxx




Left the toilet run (by pete [OR]) Posted on: Dec 27, 2020 12:31 AM
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I had this happen where water usage was really high. Toilet wasn't leaking with dye test. Male tenant took readings from meter every day for 2 weeks, claimed water company was at fault. This went on for a couple of years. I talked to them several times about this. I come to do an unrelated repair and hear the toilet running. Female tenant says" Oh yeah, I just jiggle the handle when that happens" She would spend her days watching t. v. and was oblivious to the connection. I don't think she jiggled the handle very often. --35.132.xxx.xxx




Left the toilet run (by Tarheel T [NC]) Posted on: Dec 28, 2020 9:22 AM
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I like your style of management Robert J. I try to check for water leaks about once a month. My tenants dont give a rat’s butt if there is a water leak, so its up to me.

Its now about time to check... --68.119.xxx.xxx




Left the toilet run (by David L. [OH]) Posted on: Dec 28, 2020 9:29 AM
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The city where my multi units are located have an online service where I can check daily on water usage AND I can receive a text message when the water is over a specific percentage. It also records usage by the hour so I can see hour by hour. I cannot get it down to the unit but I can tell when there is a leak as opposed to typical usage (washer/shower) because it runs continuously. I do not typically charge for a running toilet. They are tenants for a reason and it does not occur to them to check for a running toilets. Cost of being a LL. --208.38.xxx.xx




Left the toilet run (by MJ [PA]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2021 12:13 PM
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This is a booby trap in the landlording business. After the high water bill comes the high sewage bill. You can have your lease say whatever, but in a multi-unit where the owner is paying water, it is your problem. I put in Niagra Conservation toilets (buy online from Homedepot.com) that use 0.8 gallons per flush and I use water saving shower heads from the same company too. They will pay for themselves. This problem reinforces the land lording laws about doing an inspection. I would change all the toilets in that building. They are $150 each and will pay you back many times. Just remember to adjust the flush button rod to correct length when installing them or they will run even when new. There is a rod under the button and it should have an eighth of an inch free play before engaging the flush mechanism. --76.125.xxx.xxx




Left the toilet run (by Jkj [MA]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2021 1:36 PM
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My 2 cents......worth trying to get them to pay up, but very much doubt if they contest it you’d win. Send them a bill see what happens, worst case they ignore it. “You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take” - Wayne Gretzky --173.48.xxx.xxx



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