Thankfully I’m not in this position, but lately I’ve been thinking of creative ways to get rid of people if need be. What do you think of this possibility — assuming tenant is on a month to month rental agreement and stop paying rent. You issue them a 30 day notice to terminate the rental agreement (in Mass this is the process and I assume there is a similar process in other states). The 30 day notice doesn’t have anything to do with the fact that they stopped paying but is just the process to terminate the rental agreement, which we can do in Mass with 30 day notice (one full rental period). The tenant won’t likely leave after the 30 days, but now they have no valid rental agreement. Now you write a new rental agreement for a new ‘tenant’ (friend of yours that’s aware of the situation), give them keys, and they legally move in with the goal of making the tenant miserable until they leave. Would this approach be legal? --73.186.xxx.xxx

Cash for keys. --99.103.xxx.xxx

Can’t you just give them notice and then file for eviction when they don’t move? That would be the proper way to proceed. --75.89.xxx.xxx

when someone gets shot you will be responsible --72.231.xxx.xxx

Take the easy, legal route. Non-renew and evict as a hold over. --107.216.xxx.xxx

This approach would only work if the 3rd person was added to the rental agreement at the beginning at the same time as the new tenants sign off on it. As I suggested on other posts, due to the risk of new moratoriums, you add your "Crazy Uncle Eddy" as a co-tenant on the rental agreement. All Ts sign. When the tenants stop paying due to a new moratorium, your "Crazy Eddy" uncle moves in which he has a right to do as a co-tenant. Then he invites his buddies in the Hells Angels to party with him . . . which as a co-tenant he has a right to do. Deadbeats likely then move out. This approach would only work since Eddy has a right of possession and right to enter his own apartment that he shares with the deadbeat tenants. Adding him on later without the Ts consent would likely open a big can of worms. --152.89.xxx.xxx

I don't think that would pass muster with Judge Sullivan. --71.174.xxx.xx

Ken good one... --99.103.xxx.xxx

What about that approach if you're dipping your big toe into legally murky waters? --108.69.xxx.xxx

I am probably much older than you are but I don't have any "friends" (nor did I when I was younger) who would participate in this. Why in the world do you think someone would insert themselves into the middle of your business mess ... "friend" or not. --72.70.xxx.xx

Not that I've tried it but $$ & a bit of crazy would motivate plenty of people to do this for you, I know a couple of guys who would do it gleefully. With all that we know of our tenants info, a "friend" surely could pass off a story that they are a paying roomate of the deadbeat tenant, even with a paid rent receipt from tenant... Remember it's a civil matter. --184.102.xxx.xxx

And yes, I prolly know a guy or two who would do this for me. --70.92.xxx.xxx

With -holdover- rent double it should be an incentive to leave, but there are always the type of person to stretch limits. --23.125.xxx.xx

Depends on your location. In areas with shortages of rentals due to rent control, you could probably insist on having your "Uncle Eddie" on the rental agreement as he is traveling abroad and needs a room when he gets back. When the moratorium / rent control hits, Crazy Uncle Eddie is back along with his biker buddies, ready to party til the place is vacant! Then Eddie gets his $1000 bonus for encouraging deadbeats to move to some other LLs rental, maybe yours! --152.89.xxx.xxx

1(800) CRAZY-ED --24.101.xxx.xx

BRAD --73.102.xxx.xxx

You don't have any PITA relatives (mother in law, Crazy uncles, fat smelly ex-wives) you could move in? Usually everyone has a Crazy Eddie in the family that they don't want around and who mooches money - just the type you need to move in with the deadbeats! --152.89.xxx.xxx

Maybe I need to add an uncle Eddie clause to my rental agreement! --73.186.xxx.xxx

Johnny don't forget that if they don't leave voluntarily, you have to go through the eviction process. My current case is for termination of lease that ended March 31 and I have to wait a few more weeks for hearing with a judge. --66.30.xx.xx

Offhand, seems to me that there is no "Crazy Eddie" clause. The way this would work is he has to be listed as a co-tenant on the rental agreement and sign the rental agreement as a tenant with the others - he just doesn't move in since he is "travelling abroad" but may need a place to stay when he gets back. When the rent moratorium hits, and the Ts refuse to pay their rent, then the time has arrived for Crazy Eddie to move in with his buddies and his drumming equipment for all day practice . . . Probably a good idea if Eddy is big and mean since the Ts are not going to like being "encouraged" to move out by Crazy Eddie and his buddies. Then when the apartment is empty of deadbeats, a big gift would be appropriate for the biker crew . . . --152.89.xxx.xxx

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What methods do others use please??? It makes no sense not to be able to get someone out after months of taking advantage. What am I missing here? --71.12.x.xx

We had a discussion about this a couple of months ago. Do a search for "crickets." --104.230.xxx.xx

Thank you Robin! I'll check for crickets. --71.12.x.xx

I think I would be more inclined to go the passive aggressive route. There are a lot of things that could render a unit “ uninhabitable “. In the event that happens, the lease is terminated. Tenants are required to have renters insurance that covers their relocation expenses and alternate accommodations and move their possessions . --75.133.xxx.xx

completely heartless but you wanted creative. --68.104.xx.xx

mnrk[NV] - would it have been less “heartless” for you to continue to steal from your lessor by not paying the rent? Take some responsibility for yourself. You’re lessor is not a parent or a charity and has no interest in housing you for free. --73.186.xxx.xxx