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Free OR Rent Through Jul (by Jeff [CO]) Dec 18, 2020 11:55 AM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by NE [PA]) Dec 18, 2020 12:25 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by JB [OR]) Dec 18, 2020 12:28 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by NE [PA]) Dec 18, 2020 12:29 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by NE [PA]) Dec 18, 2020 12:31 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by JAC [OH]) Dec 18, 2020 12:31 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by NE [PA]) Dec 18, 2020 12:35 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by Jeff [CO]) Dec 18, 2020 12:35 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by Nicole [PA]) Dec 18, 2020 12:57 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by JAC [OH]) Dec 18, 2020 1:01 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by Jeff [CO]) Dec 18, 2020 1:10 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by S i d [MO]) Dec 18, 2020 2:41 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by Dodge [PA]) Dec 18, 2020 2:53 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by Dodge [PA]) Dec 18, 2020 2:58 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by NE [PA]) Dec 18, 2020 3:16 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by NE [PA]) Dec 18, 2020 3:18 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by Dodge [PA]) Dec 18, 2020 3:44 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by 6x6 [TN]) Dec 18, 2020 3:54 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by Jeff [CO]) Dec 18, 2020 4:08 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by JB [OR]) Dec 18, 2020 5:01 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by Dodge [PA]) Dec 18, 2020 5:09 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by NE [PA]) Dec 18, 2020 5:12 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by NE [PA]) Dec 18, 2020 5:15 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by Robert J [CA]) Dec 18, 2020 5:23 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by Paulio [PA]) Dec 18, 2020 5:31 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by Lana [IN]) Dec 18, 2020 5:32 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by Lana [IN]) Dec 18, 2020 5:38 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by NE [PA]) Dec 18, 2020 5:42 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by NE [PA]) Dec 18, 2020 5:42 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by John... [MI]) Dec 18, 2020 5:52 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by 6x6 [TN]) Dec 18, 2020 6:02 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by Jeff [CO]) Dec 18, 2020 6:11 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by NE [PA]) Dec 18, 2020 6:22 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by NE [PA]) Dec 18, 2020 6:28 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by 6x6 [TN]) Dec 18, 2020 6:51 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by NE [PA]) Dec 18, 2020 6:56 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by 6x6 [TN]) Dec 18, 2020 7:00 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by 6x6 [TN]) Dec 18, 2020 7:02 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by JAC [OH]) Dec 18, 2020 7:11 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by NE [PA]) Dec 18, 2020 7:17 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by JAC [OH]) Dec 18, 2020 7:20 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by NE [PA]) Dec 18, 2020 7:29 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by JAC [OH]) Dec 18, 2020 8:02 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by Lana [IN]) Dec 18, 2020 8:20 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by NE [PA]) Dec 18, 2020 8:26 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by NE [PA]) Dec 18, 2020 8:28 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by Nicole [PA]) Dec 18, 2020 9:02 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by Nicole [PA]) Dec 18, 2020 9:03 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by NE [PA]) Dec 18, 2020 9:05 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by ned [AL]) Dec 18, 2020 9:34 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by Ray-N-pa [PA]) Dec 18, 2020 9:52 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by Nicole [PA]) Dec 18, 2020 9:58 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by Robin [WI]) Dec 18, 2020 10:01 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Dec 18, 2020 10:37 PM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by J [FL]) Dec 19, 2020 8:32 AM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by NE [PA]) Dec 19, 2020 9:13 AM
       Free OR Rent Through Jul (by plenty [MO]) Dec 19, 2020 9:33 AM


Free OR Rent Through Jul (by Jeff [CO]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 11:55 AM
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Be thankful you're not a Portland landlord (unless you are). No help for landlords. Shocking!

Tenants have a six-month grace period to pay back missed rent after the moratorium ends.

Multnomah County extended its eviction moratorium on Thursday, ensuring thousands of renters who have fallen behind on rent can stay in their homes through the winter.

By a unanimous vote on Thursday morning, the board of county commissioners extended the moratorium through July 2, 2021. Tenants have a six-month grace period to pay back missed rent.

“While the great news about vaccines represents light at the end of the tunnel, we are in no way out of the woods,” said Multnomah County Chair Deborah Kafoury. “Extending the state of emergency today is an acknowledgment of the reality that the health safety and well being of our entire community and especially the most vulnerable continue to be threatened by this virus.”

The vote comes as Oregon lawmakers are considering extending the statewide moratorium on evictions past the new year. Legislators will meet on Monday for a special session to take up the question. Kafoury said the county didn’t want to wait.

“We couldn’t afford to take any chances,” she said. “Multnomah County renters can rest assured that, at the very least, no matter what the state does or doesn’t do, they will be protected in the New Year.” --76.120.xx.xxx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 12:25 PM
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Still think this is about a virus??? Seems more like a well planned agenda to me. --70.44.xxx.xx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 12:28 PM
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And the race is on to find out which city/state will go the farthest in torching the US Constitution.

We have many contenders in Oregon, Massachusetts, New York, California, and Colorado, and Seattle leading Washington state into the great toilet bowl of liberal "justice". --73.25.xx.xxx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 12:29 PM
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Somebody should probably knock on Kafoury's front door. --70.44.xxx.xx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 12:31 PM
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JB, they aren't torching the constitution with this, because they don't need to. The bizarre thing about this whole situation, is how easily everyone is just giving it up. Hey, as long as we save one person, right? --70.44.xxx.xx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by JAC [OH]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 12:31 PM
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Your beef should be about no rental assistance during a critical public health emergency and getting worse because of poor policy. You choose poorly and here we are. --50.5.xxx.xxx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 12:35 PM
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The beef is assuming the landlord is responsible to provide free housing. --70.44.xxx.xx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by Jeff [CO]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 12:35 PM
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JAC, you're a troll. I will ignore you after this. --76.120.xx.xxx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 12:57 PM
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are there any provisions to hold the tenants accountable?

payment plan to have monies paid back by the end and if broken landlord can file rather than wait until July?

Zero tolerance such as July 3 landlords get to change locks if not paid up?

Any type government t or charitable funds available to tenant paid directly to landlord? --72.70.xxx.xx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by JAC [OH]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 1:01 PM
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Ignoring me is fine. Ignoring the problem, kicking the can down the road and still whining about it is on you. Always be evaluating your choices, the results of those choices and adapt as needed. --50.5.xxx.xxx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by Jeff [CO]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 1:10 PM
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Nicole,

There is no such plan. There is also nothing to to provide assistance for landlords. I am willing to bet that they are working on a rent forgiveness plan so that tenants won't owe rent until August. --76.120.xx.xxx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 2:41 PM
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The Govt hold tenants accountable? When have they ever done that?

"It's a civil matter" that you and I will be allowed to deal with....when/if we're allowed.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, so I don't believe this is part of a massive plot to destroy public property. No, I was around the Govt enough in 23 years of military service, and the answer now is more than likely the same it has always been: sheer, unadulterated incompetence and looking out for oneself.

"Do something" Govt mentality that never looks beyond step 3 of a 1,000 step plan. Blame the other guy when things go wrong and claim all the credit when things go right.

Conspiracy or incompetence: either answer creates the same outcome, more's the pity. --107.216.xxx.xxx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by Dodge [PA]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 2:53 PM
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So what's the solution? Proceed with business as usual and Covid overwhelms hospitals, supply chains, and essential services? --174.249.xxx.xxx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by Dodge [PA]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 2:58 PM
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I thought Covid was going to dissappear after the election? Then it would dissappear after election winner was clear. We've had the lawsuits dismissed and the electoral college has voted. So why are covid hospitalizations and deaths are still increasing? --174.249.xxx.xxx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 3:16 PM
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Dodge, full hospitals is no longer an excuse. Get over that fear. --174.198.xx.xxx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 3:18 PM
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What science justifies this law? What evidence? --174.198.xx.xxx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by Dodge [PA]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 3:44 PM
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Hospitals are filing back up per the local paper, national news, and friends who work there. Deaths are increasing as well. Friends have gotten Covid and said it's been h3ll. Fortunately young and healthy so they got over it on their own. So are full hospitals not a concern? Because you say so? Give people a sound reason to belive you. --174.249.xxx.xxx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 3:54 PM
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How many here think this will end in June? --73.120.xx.xxx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by Jeff [CO]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 4:08 PM
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Dodge (or is it JAC?) you missed the point. No matter what is going on in the world it's not up to landlords to be the only private business supplier of a free service. You don't know this? --76.120.xx.xxx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 5:01 PM
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Dodge, we were flat-out lied to from the beginning:

What happened to, "If we can all just stay home for two or three weeks to flatten the curve, then the hospitals won't have to worry about overcrowding and we can get through this without further suffering?"

NO! Instead it's been more than nine months and we are still hearing about the hospitals being "overloaded."

This has been nothing more than a test by big government and state and local governments to see how many of our inalienable rights can be revoked before people say, "Enough!'

Well, I'm saying, enough! --73.25.xx.xxx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by Dodge [PA]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 5:09 PM
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Belive me, I'm not happy with the powers that be controlling my personal property. And without compensation! But life isn’t always fair.

Let's assume that we can agree covid is not a hoax. And we also assume that it's spread through breathing the same air as people who have covid.

Now, what should we as a bunch of people do in response to this threat? And this threat may cause as many deaths as a world war. And we can minimize the damage by preventing people from breathing the same air. But that will cause the loss of jobs and what is the most expensive things people spend money on? Housing- so housing providers are the easiest place to shift the burden. And we don't have a big lobby group like big banks or big food. And landlords get little sympathy from anyway.

So politicians took the easy path, I don't expect much more. I personally think PPP loans and direct payments to landlords would be better solution. But when has government followed the best solution?

Has there ever been a time in US histor where the government has commandeered private property to for its use? World wars come to mind, the draft even commandeered your very person. And some didn't come back.

Landlords lost the draft lottery in this covid war.

Perhaps the war could have been prevented if we took this seriously and tested anyone entering our border, or people observed masks and distancing instead of claiming its a hoax and you can't tell me stop behaviors that spread disease. Or we just decided to say sorry to people that got covid didn't Sweden try this?

But here we are. And I don't think we should respond like tenants who say its not their fault a tree fell on their car so they can't get to work and its not fair that this other tenant has cheaper rent and the Landlord is just picking on me personally.

--174.249.xxx.xxx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 5:12 PM
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JB, welcome to the club. I've said ENOUGH since day 1. I have not complied one bit. NOTHING!

Today, I went and had outlawed coffee at an illegally operating coffee shop with fellow "criminals" having illegal coffee as well. They've had enough too.

The war cry from those who wear their masks in their cars of "But the hospitals are FUULLLLLLL!!!!!" No longer matters to those of us who have maintained our ability to think critically.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

Game over. --70.44.xxx.xx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 5:15 PM
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Dodge, Covid is not a war, this is a new religion. I didn't lose any draft lottery and I'm not a draft dodger for refusing to do my part either. Nonsense. --70.44.xxx.xx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 5:23 PM
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Here in California and the City of Los Angeles -- their belief is a landlord offer nothing of service to the community. We deserve nothing but have to give up our time, money and hard work.

Tenants had 1 year to pay back their rent AFTER the Governor declares the pandemic was over. But this is being extended to the end of 2021.. --47.155.xx.xxx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by Paulio [PA]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 5:31 PM
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Covid isn’t a hoax but it is extremely overblown in both the number of cases and severity. Our governor (guess which party) claims he had a false positive as did a county judge (guess which party). Surely, they aren’t the only two in America to receive a false positive. And yet never....not once....NEVER have I seen a report where case numbers were revised downward. It’s only up, up, up. And the total number of false positive cases has never been reported. That’s how I know it’s BS. --50.32.xxx.xxx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by Lana [IN]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 5:32 PM
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Nevada just extended the moratorium until March 31st.

Portland is run by lunatics. Ted Wheeler marched in support of BLM/Antifa, and even took a hit of mace to the face to exhibit his sincerity. Then he had to move out of his apartment after his new friends tried to burn his building down with him in it. Portland, Seattle, San Francisco all exhibit what happens with perpetual liberal Democratic leadership: homeless everywhere, rampant drug abuse with passed out junkies and used needles abounding, unprosecuted crime because we can't hurt their feelings, social workers replacing police in domestic disturbances(only one dead social worker so far in Olympia Wa, but certainly more to come), and let's not forget the universal surplus of human feces in these "progressive" enclaves. Landlords in OR and WA simply need to start planning their escape. A good film to watch is Seattle's local TV station, KOMO documentary, "Seattle is Dying:.

The rest of us need to realize we might not escape their fate. The one thing I have noticed in the recent epidemic and unrest is, it is the small property owners and the small businesses being selected for destruction. Yes, our local government probably know exactly who they would prefer to have take over our properties. We are just like the proverbial frog, the water is getting higher and hotter.

--216.23.xxx.xx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by Lana [IN]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 5:38 PM
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Dodge. There is no way of preventing this epidemic. Virus' are too efficient at spreading. They are just as much a force of nature as a hurricane or a volcano. Even with the draconian measures China took such as welding entire apartment buildings shut, the virus spread and keeps returning as novel strains. That having been said, this has no where near the fatality rate that the 1918 Epidemic had. --216.23.xxx.xx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 5:42 PM
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Paulio, you touched on one thing. Part of the cure is D party terrorist attacks on small business.

I never went to my doctor when I was sick and had him prescribe me 3 tablespoons of D-party anti-capitalism per day.

Lana, you have to shop at places that don't enforce the orders. Do not do business with someone who forces you to comply with this nonsense. Turn around and walk out the door. No business owner in their right mind is going to turn away a paying customer who doesn't want to comply with the stuff. --70.44.xxx.xx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 5:42 PM
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Paulio, you touched on one thing. Part of the cure is D party terrorist attacks on small business.

I never went to my doctor when I was sick and had him prescribe me 3 tablespoons of D-party anti-capitalism per day.

Lana, you have to shop at places that don't enforce the orders. Do not do business with someone who forces you to comply with this nonsense. Turn around and walk out the door. No business owner in their right mind is going to turn away a paying customer who doesn't want to comply with the stuff. --70.44.xxx.xx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 5:52 PM
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NE wrote: "I've said ENOUGH since day 1. I have not complied one bit. NOTHING!"

This attitude is a big part of why we're where we are right now. This did not get under control because the powers that be and people like NE decided that they were too good to simply wear a mask and social distance properly.

I agree with Sid. This isn't some conspiracy or trick. It's a real virus and it has gotten so bad because of "sheer, unadulterated incompetence and looking out for oneself."

On the part of the government and a few too many people like NE.

- John...

--67.209.xxx.xx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 6:02 PM
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Or, Perhaps the war could have been prevented if we ALL took this seriously from the beginning and put a stop to this nonsense. --73.120.xx.xxx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by Jeff [CO]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 6:11 PM
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Well said, JB. --76.120.xx.xxx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 6:22 PM
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Get over it John! I'm not sick. Especially since CNN says I might be. The two most dangerous aspects of the COVID-19 narrative are asymptomatic and highly mutative! It sets the stage for perpetual restrictions and limitations at lockdowns and all this other nonsense. You're living in an allusion buddy. I don't care if the reverse is real or not. The reaction Is insanity!

PS I will never wear one of your virtue signaling state mandated muzzles. --70.44.xxx.xx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 6:28 PM
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Hahaha, do you know what's actually worse than people like me who won't wear a mask? It's the people that think this is nonsense, yet still comply and wear that mask! They are the ones that are allowing this to go on and on and on. They need to get a back bone and say no more!! --70.44.xxx.xx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 6:51 PM
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NE, who are you referring to?

--73.120.xx.xxx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 6:56 PM
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6 x 6, I'm referring to the general public. People that don't agree with this, yet still comply. --70.44.xxx.xx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 7:00 PM
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I was wondering because at the end of my last post I mentioned nonsense. LOL --73.120.xx.xxx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 7:02 PM
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Of coarse I was referring to the nonsense of what the government is doing. --73.120.xx.xxx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by JAC [OH]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 7:11 PM
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Meanwhile people not masking and not social distancing are spreading the virus, hospitals are full or overflowing and moratoriums are being extended without rental assistance. The price for poor choices is here. --50.5.xxx.xxx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 7:17 PM
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Yawn JAC. Nonsense. You have no proof your self other than what you've seen on TV. Heresay isn't proof. Breaking news isn't proof. Your brothers girlfriends cousin's mother being sick isn't proof.

I'm not sick, so I know I'm not spreading the virus. Most places that I shop, they don't wear masks and none of them are sick, so they're not spreading the virus. I'm not really sure where you've done your research on this other than the TV, but it's not a fact. You have no evidence. You're fake news. --70.44.xxx.xx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by JAC [OH]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 7:20 PM
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Science says otherwise. Mask up and social distance. --50.5.xxx.xxx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 7:29 PM
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Several District attorneys in my area have already stated that they're not prosecuting citations for these orders. I'll be in jail or beat to a pulp before I wear the symbol of the Branch Covidians.

Here's another interesting take on this. We had a get together the other day for a bunch of kids with an undisclosed number of people in an undisclosed location, so they can play with one another and build gingerbread houses for Christmas! Highly outlawed in modern day America, by the way.

Anyway, there were several women at the kitchen table who were having a discussion about this stuff. They are all of a more religious leaning than myself.

One of the women was almost in tears as she spoke, because she has been accused of being selfish for maintaining her freedom and her beliefs and not wearing a mask. She stated, "I've never been selfish in my life, I don't understand this."

--70.44.xxx.xx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by JAC [OH]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 8:02 PM
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Sounds pretty selfish to me. If you don't see it, not surprising. --50.5.xxx.xxx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by Lana [IN]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 8:20 PM
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Masks are not effective. Plenty of good studies show that.

Maybe some newer politically correct studies say they help, but medical personnel have known for ages masks don't stop viruses. N95 masks were developed for the tuberculosis bacillus. Masks may prevent partial droplets from being exhaled by an infected person, but nothing for the person inhaling through a mask. I spent over 3 decades gowning, gloving, and masking up for each influenza patient I saw while knowing it was not effective. It takes Biohazard suits with external airflow and accidents happen even with those precautions. I believe the masks are simply to give people something to do. Staying at home helps and I am thankful to be retired. Social distancing also not effective. The magic 6 feet is meaningless. When an infected person sneezes or coughs, 28 yards is not enough. A working vaccine would be nice, but I will never put a Pfizer product in my body or any other vaccine that has not gone through YEARS of intense clinical studies. Personally, I believe cheap effective antivirals given early in the course(first 48 hours) in the outpatient setting to prevent hospitalization is the way to go. Both hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin have shown anti-inflammatory/anticoronavirus actions. Both are cheap which is why they have been suppressed, but are being utilized by ICU doctors anyway. Some good research is being produced on medical treatments other than vaccine. --216.23.xxx.xx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 8:26 PM
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I guess if illegal gingerbread houses are selfish, the outlawed Christmas special we will be attending is downright evil? --70.44.xxx.xx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 8:28 PM
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Lana, your perspective on this is one I can respect. --70.44.xxx.xx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 9:02 PM
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6x6 - I think at the beginning (middle of March) many if not most people did comply.... because they had no where they could go... businesses and public places were shut down supposedly for two weeks. I believe that morphed into a minimum of a month and a half or two months.

District attorneys and sheriffs down here also say they won't prosecute or enforce.

MANY restaurants and gyms refuse to comply. There is a published statewide list of those who refuse to buckle under and lose their businesses and those places are thriving.

I have a friend who has refused to comply. He said he can shut down again (he complied the first time and basically did what he was told) and knows he won't be able to reopen. His options are comply and lock up permanently or disobey and face the possibility of losing his business that his family has built up the past 40ish years. He chooses to go down fighting if it comes to that.

One establishment owner next county over basically says ... I've already got $10,000 in fines that I'm not going to be able to pay. I'll stay open so my employees at least get through Christmas and worry about the fines at some point down the road ...

--72.70.xxx.xx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 9:03 PM
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If I didn't make my message clear ... open PA !!! --72.70.xxx.xx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 9:05 PM
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Nicole, those are my kind of Americans! God bless them! --70.44.xxx.xx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by ned [AL]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 9:34 PM
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My day business provides me a pretty good vantage point of how this covid thing has affected small biz.

In a nutshell, the daily ambiguity of government intervention in our basic liberties, our ability to plan basic business actions, our ability to manage employees, and our ability to manage our business has provided bizarre unintended consequences.

We'd have been better off with an expensive federal ad campaign to convince us all to wash our hands good, inform us about risk of gathering..but not constant restrictions that change on the daily that are contradictory, and in many cases,nonsensical, ineffective and go directly against basic human rights and property rights.

--70.92.xxx.xxx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by Ray-N-pa [PA]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 9:52 PM
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Social justice is delivered to our society - via a virus? --24.101.xxx.xx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 9:58 PM
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I guess my question is not how many more people are getting the virus - actual numbers and percentages - that are touted daily locally.

They also tell how many have gotten tests. Of course that number has had a sharp upward line because more tests are available to the general public than there were in the spring.

They tell how many tested are positive and negative.

They tell how many icu beds are taken up (not mentioning that one of those beds might be Uncle Joe with nothing to do with covid).

They REALLY stress daily percentages increased positivess.

They publish these complex graphs that even a visual nerd such as myself gets googley eyed over.

What they don't publish is what is the increase in death percentages - they publis actual numbers.

One local chart I saw not too long ago divided up by perhaps township or zip code had a really high percentage for a VERY rural area. Reading the small footnote it said something along the lines of "adjusted for population"!!

No, I don't want one of those folks to be me. I don't want one of those folks to be the elderly in my family (who precovid already had a foot in the dirt anyway and all say they are just waiting for "my time").

--72.70.xxx.xx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by Robin [WI]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 10:01 PM
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If I owned property in OR, I think my furnaces would mysteriously stop working. No money to fix them. Call the health dept and have them condemned. Tenants have to move. Oh, I found the money to fix them!

Fortunately, my tenants are all paying still. If one of them stopped, crying COVID, they would be gone. I believe in obeying the law, but there are limits. --104.230.xxx.xx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2020 10:37 PM
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Well if the chemistry test are correct in Erie on their sewage, about one in 30 currently have the virus.

How long will antibodies last in humans is the big wild card along with how much will the virus mutate itself.

On the surface its easy to say the virus will burn itself out......but then again AIDS has been around since the 1980's and there is still no cure --24.101.xxx.xx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by J [FL]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2020 8:32 AM
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I think the vaccines will take care of the virus. The problem is the logistics of getting to everyone. --72.188.xxx.xxx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2020 9:13 AM
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J, you can't be serious. --70.44.xxx.xx




Free OR Rent Through Jul (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2020 9:33 AM
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I'm with Robin. Do what ya have to when you have too. --172.56.xx.xxx





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