Moratorium Until July (by JB [OR]) Nov 21, 2020 10:42 PM|
Moratorium Until July (by Sean [OR]) Nov 21, 2020 10:48 PM
Moratorium Until July (by Robert J [CA]) Nov 22, 2020 12:26 AM
Moratorium Until July (by NE [PA]) Nov 22, 2020 5:49 AM
Moratorium Until July (by NE [PA]) Nov 22, 2020 5:52 AM
Moratorium Until July (by Richard [MI]) Nov 22, 2020 8:10 AM
Moratorium Until July (by NE [PA]) Nov 22, 2020 8:22 AM
Moratorium Until July (by RR78 [VA]) Nov 22, 2020 8:54 AM
Moratorium Until July (by Scott [IN]) Nov 22, 2020 9:49 AM
Moratorium Until July (by 6x6 [TN]) Nov 22, 2020 10:17 AM
Moratorium Until July (by Mike SWMO [MO]) Nov 22, 2020 11:18 AM
Moratorium Until July (by Ken [NY]) Nov 22, 2020 11:32 AM
Moratorium Until July (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Nov 22, 2020 11:47 AM
Moratorium Until July (by J [FL]) Nov 22, 2020 12:18 PM
Moratorium Until July (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Nov 22, 2020 1:58 PM
Moratorium Until July (by GKARL [PA]) Nov 22, 2020 7:23 PM
Moratorium Until July (by W [CA]) Nov 22, 2020 11:33 PM
Moratorium Until July (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Nov 23, 2020 1:14 AM
Moratorium Until July (by DUPLEX_IL [IL]) Nov 24, 2020 6:36 AM
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Moratorium Until July (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Nov 21, 2020 10:42 PM
And coming to other Progressive states and maybe even nationally...
Oregon lawmakers working on extending eviction moratorium through June 2021.
The powers that be say this new moratorium is needed and "would prevent a possible cascade of evictions at the start of the New Year."
"Under current state law, tenants have until March 31 to pay back rent accumulated between April 1 and Sept. 30 of this year, but must pay back rent accumulated in the final three months of the year on Jan. 1. Requirements may be different in counties and cities that have adopted their own eviction moratoriums."
"The new proposal would extend the moratorium until June 30 and require tenants to pay back all accumulated rent on July 1."
Someone please tell me where this ends???
Moratorium Until July (by Sean [OR]) Posted on: Nov 21, 2020 10:48 PM
I don't see an end of the madness. Oregon is quickly turning into a welfare state. --66.190.xxx.xx
Moratorium Until July (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2020 12:26 AM
I've started eviction cases for the following:
1) Tenant is a pack-rant and saves trash, attracting roaches. My pest control can't treat the unit because of the tenants loss for housekeeping.
2) Parking an extra car on the property in a fire zone.
3) Allowing a pet to bark all day and night, disturbing other residents of the apartment building.
4) Subletting rooms out to unapproved people without the consent of the owner.
While a simple Notice to Perform or Quit used to take around a week before I could go forward with an eviction case, now it takes around 22 to 26 days before I can file an eviction for anything having nothing to do with not paying rent. --47.155.xx.xxx
Moratorium Until July (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2020 5:49 AM
JB, it doesn't end until people stop complying. Piece by piece by piece. Still think it has anything to do with a v i r u s? --70.44.xxx.xx
Moratorium Until July (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2020 5:52 AM
JB, at this point I really think you're behind enemy lines and need to get out of that state. --70.44.xxx.xx
Moratorium Until July (by Richard [MI]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2020 8:10 AM
Does anyone think/believe that non payers will save up the money and give it to the landlord when these don't have to pay edicts is over?
I propose we start a big screen TV box count total in our areas. I've seen at least 6 recently. I think I'll ask the garbage man how many he thinks he has seen since this started.
Moratorium Until July (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2020 8:22 AM
Richard, when you have 12 months of unpaid rent hitting the courts, some states won't even be able to file that in small claims due to the amounts.
With $12-$20000 owed in back rent, the "cancel the rent" movement will be mainstream news. Also, I can almost guarantee that you will see efforts to stop allowing landlords to check credit. Didn't that already happen in Seattle???
Screen your prospects politics! Check their bumper stickers, check their Facebook posts. Any left leaning ideology, KEEP THEM OUT!!
Look for roots based in traditional values, conservative fundamentals and hardwork --70.44.xxx.xx
Moratorium Until July (by RR78 [VA]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2020 8:54 AM
I agree with Richard.
Time to sell rentals and buy stock in Sony, Samsung etc... --73.40.xx.xx
Moratorium Until July (by Scott [IN]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2020 9:49 AM
NE makes a good point. Landlords will only be allowed to file for an amount up to the limit of small claims.
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but politics is not a protected class. We can ASK applicants to identify their politics, though checking bumper stickers and Facebook is a great idea. --107.141.xx.xxx
Moratorium Until July (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2020 10:17 AM
Unfortunately, it looks as if there is no end in site. If this gets extended to July then it will have been over a year. The courts are allowing this to continue as well. So, that leaves it up to the LL's to make a change.
NE and Richard have very good points. --73.120.xx.xxx
Moratorium Until July (by Mike SWMO [MO]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2020 11:18 AM
In regards to not being able to file in small claims court due to the amount of money tenants owe.
Missouri small claims court file for up to $5000 PLUS court cost, attorney fees, sheriff or special process server fees and a few other items.
Next court up file for $25000 Plus items listed above but maybe use an attorney (not required).
What I did when tenant owed me more than $5000. I filed for a certain time period. This time period brought the amount due to around $5000.
Then, a little later I filed again for a different time period. This second filing covered the rest of the money tenant owed me.
We know the tenant isnít going to pay. However, I am willing to spend (give away) the $38 (the cost to file SCC in my county in Missouri) to get multiple court judgments against the tenant.
Does it do any good? My thinking is that if tenant gets enough court judgments against him then if MIGHT impact the tenant in some negative way.
Moratorium Until July (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2020 11:32 AM
MIKE, If you have the judgment filed at the county and they try to get a mortgage the bank will require them to pay you off otherwise your judgment will be ahead of the mortgage.I got paid off on one a few months ago.
Scott,good idea i wonder if there political affiliation can be looked up somewhere? --72.231.xxx.xxx
Moratorium Until July (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2020 11:47 AM
There have been a variety of legal challenges filed against this. I believe the wrong approach has been used. Perhaps a suit against the state for allowing the state execute against unpaid taxes - by having tax sales and or judicial sales to remove deadbeats off the tax roles.
At the same time telling landlords that they can't remove deadbeats from there homes - after they removed the home from the deadbeat. --24.101.xxx.xx
Moratorium Until July (by J [FL]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2020 12:18 PM
We all know most of these tenants will not make up the back rents even if the government says they have to do so. A person who gets into this situation in the first place is by someone who has no emergency fund and possibly doesn't pay their other bills either. --72.188.xxx.xxx
Moratorium Until July (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2020 1:58 PM
Suppose they told the grocery store that the grocery store would have to provide free food for all those tenants who are receiving funds for food and housing then a week later the grocery store would close down. This has nothing to do with the crisis rather a means to expropriate rental housing where the government takes over. The extreme left radicals believe that there should be no profit rental housing. Unless everyone stands up then files a class action suit then this madness is going to continue where free rent forever which has nothing to do with the flood of evictions. If they have income then rent should be paid where rental housing providers have constitutional rights that are being tramped on. Oh July then December then so on. Here people were getting $2,000 Cdn. per month for food and housing which was supposed used for that not a new car or big screen tv. While the committee of social justice is back up where it is going to take a year to get a hearing. We live where there is constitutional rights not a dictatorship where the government simply can take over private property without a legal fight. Where in reality tenants have two choices which are make a payment plan then pay rent or get evicted. This free for all needs to come to a end. Before the crisis the amount of evictions was insignificant to the percentage of tenants where the extremists told complete lies about the amount of evictions. Maybe the extreme leftist should pay rent then the situation would change quickly. Governments should stop funding those nutcases. --147.194.xxx.xx
Moratorium Until July (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2020 7:23 PM
I notice that they'll compensate LL albeit at 80% of what they're owned with priority given to smaller LL. These moratoriums can not work unless they're prepared to do an indirect bank bailout. Basically, the banks will be made whole while the LL will not be. I look for something similar to be done at the federal level. This alone will depress real estate prices. I'm not sure what the post pandemic situation will be. I suspect national rent control. I think the move now is to only have tenants on M2M so you have maximum flexibility to raise rents ahead of that move. --209.122.xx.xxx
Moratorium Until July (by W [CA]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2020 11:33 PM
Offhand, the only practical way for an owner to protect himself from the moratoriums in the future is to rent apartments with a friend or relative as a co-tenant, sharing the apartment. Then when the politicians want to give out free rent or do rent control, your relative or friend can move in and start his rock drummer practice at all hours . . . You could hang out with him in the apartment . . . and ask the Ts for the rent whenever you are lying on the couch watching their TV in the front room . . . I'm sure they'll want to find another place soon . . . LOL --174.65.x.xxx
Moratorium Until July (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Nov 23, 2020 1:14 AM
JB is not behind enemy lines, the enemy has overtaken him.
A local atty suggested filing for UNPAID DEBT, not eviction.
He also suggested filing in big court with different rules than small claims.
My success has been the threat of a lawsuit on their record and lease /safety / code violations.
Moratorium Until July (by DUPLEX_IL [IL]) Posted on: Nov 24, 2020 6:36 AM
>>"The new proposal would extend the moratorium until June 30 and require tenants to pay back all accumulated rent on July 1.">>
None of them will have it. And so the headlines will demand they extend the moratoriums again.
What is the unemployment rate there? In Illinois, we still have the moratoriums but its only 6.8% unemployment now. Thats even below the long term average! So this so-called 'wave of evictions' seems like a wave of freeloaders.
It was 25% at the height of the Great Depression, and strangely none of the State governments passed any moratoriums.
However at the time the Communist party was organizing rent riots, and trying to use those to drum up revolution and sign up members. They petered out though after FDR passed unemployment insurance.
Funny, back then rioters gave up on the landlords, and turned to the government and demanded money. That was a lot more difficult for the governors to ignore.
I'd like to see a horde of unemployed tenants on Pritzkers billionaire mansion lawn chanting "Give us your money! Give us cash!" lol
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