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Checks paid for TVs (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Nov 16, 2020 12:38 AM
       Checks paid for TVs (by WMH [NC]) Nov 16, 2020 8:13 AM
       Checks paid for TVs (by John... [MI]) Nov 16, 2020 8:18 AM
       Checks paid for TVs (by #22 [MO]) Nov 16, 2020 9:19 AM
       Checks paid for TVs (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Nov 16, 2020 9:39 AM
       Checks paid for TVs (by WMH [NC]) Nov 16, 2020 9:42 AM
       Checks paid for TVs (by JAC [OH]) Nov 16, 2020 9:52 AM
       Checks paid for TVs (by WMH [NC]) Nov 16, 2020 10:55 AM
       Checks paid for TVs (by JB [OR]) Nov 16, 2020 11:07 AM
       Checks paid for TVs (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Nov 16, 2020 12:00 PM
       Checks paid for TVs (by John... [MI]) Nov 16, 2020 1:38 PM
       Checks paid for TVs (by Jim in O C [CA]) Nov 16, 2020 1:39 PM
       Checks paid for TVs (by Jim in O C [CA]) Nov 16, 2020 1:39 PM
       Checks paid for TVs (by Jim in O C [CA]) Nov 16, 2020 1:39 PM
       Checks paid for TVs (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Nov 16, 2020 3:13 PM
       Checks paid for TVs (by S i d [MO]) Nov 16, 2020 3:31 PM
       Checks paid for TVs (by Fishsticks913 [IA]) Nov 16, 2020 3:43 PM
       Checks paid for TVs (by Jkj [MA]) Nov 16, 2020 3:55 PM
       Checks paid for TVs (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Nov 16, 2020 5:59 PM
       Checks paid for TVs (by Jkj [MA]) Nov 16, 2020 6:32 PM
       Checks paid for TVs (by S i d [MO]) Nov 17, 2020 10:42 AM
       Checks paid for TVs (by #22 [MO]) Nov 17, 2020 11:31 AM
       Checks paid for TVs (by Jkj [MA]) Nov 17, 2020 12:38 PM

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Checks paid for TVs (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Nov 16, 2020 12:38 AM
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Last night was our local LL Assoc Zoom meeting with our City Code Enforcement officer as a speaker. He handles complaints about trash, junk cars, etc.

He made the point he has been having trouble

lately with old, giant TVs being set at the curb for pick up by city trash. The city will not accept electronics so he has to contact the occupant.

He said there is always a new, large, empty flat screen TV box too.

He asked the group WHY?

He told is the obvious answer...stimulus checks.

Your tax dollars at work.

BRAD --73.102.xxx.xxx




Checks paid for TVs (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Nov 16, 2020 8:13 AM
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Yes and no. Another obvious answer: Zoom. Being stuck at home. Need to stream vs. watch wired TV.

SmartTVs are as necessary as a computer these days when you think about it, and you can get one that will rival a movie screen for yes, the amount of the first stimulus check. --50.82.xxx.xxx




Checks paid for TVs (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Nov 16, 2020 8:18 AM
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To be fair, the original checks were INTENDED to be economic STIMULUS checks (that's why you're calling it that). That is how they were first presented at the start of this. People didn't realize then how long we'd be closed down and how long this would last. It is only in hindsight that we were now talking about them being primarily as normal support.

Again, there is a reason you called it a "stimulus" check and not a "unemployment emergency" check (or something along those lines). They were created originally with the intent of boosting the economy through people spending them on things like HDTVs...

- John...

--67.209.xxx.xx




Checks paid for TVs (by #22 [MO]) Posted on: Nov 16, 2020 9:19 AM
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Absolutely. Gotta keep the people dumbed down. Almost all the section 8 houses I managed had 3 things I did not. 1. A newer big screen, 2. Cable TV, 3. A newer car and car payment. Gotta keep the uneducated in the same spot, dependent on the government and unable to realize they can improve themselves. It's easy to watch cable TV for 6 hours a day. Opportunity cost anyone?

Smart TV s as necessary as a computer? Uh, nope. --23.126.xx.xxx




Checks paid for TVs (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Nov 16, 2020 9:39 AM
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Once upon a time and long long long time ago, us humans could some how survive with a corded phone, without a remote control (OK - I was the remote for my parents), with only 3 and sometimes 4 TV stations, no bottled water and you didn't share your music on napster.........it was cassettes or even 8 tracks.

Now what are necessities today? WIFI, cable, and cell phones --24.101.xxx.xx




Checks paid for TVs (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Nov 16, 2020 9:42 AM
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Cable is no longer necessary, that's old news LOL! Most people I know do not have "cable" TV anymore, including us. Streaming only these days. --50.82.xxx.xxx




Checks paid for TVs (by JAC [OH]) Posted on: Nov 16, 2020 9:52 AM
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Part of the Cares act was designed to be a stimulus. Also there are plenty of generous tax breaks in that legislation that rich companies and people got or didn't even qualify for on paper but seemed to get from act. I don't think we should be worrying about tenants purchasing a few flat screens to get rid of old tube tvs. --50.5.xxx.xxx




Checks paid for TVs (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Nov 16, 2020 10:55 AM
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Ray, if you are going to work from home or do remote schooling, you need the tools to do so. A tablet, SmartTV, computer, etc. are all part of the new world toolkit. IF you are going to succeed.

To say we did what we did with less - with the tools of our day - is like saying our ancestors got by with rocks and sticks so why shouldn't the rest of us?

It's called technological progress. --50.82.xxx.xxx




Checks paid for TVs (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Nov 16, 2020 11:07 AM
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LOL, JAC. Tenants didn't just go from an old tube tv to a flat screen. They went from a 60 inch flat screen to an 82 inch flat screen.

WMH, I do Zoom all of the time on my $250 laptop (already owned before stimulus). No need for a Smart TV. And the blue ray/dvd players still do the streaming for you (still don't need a Smart TV). I don't have one and feel no need to. --73.25.xx.xxx




Checks paid for TVs (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Nov 16, 2020 12:00 PM
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Stimulous checks were another example of government lack of foresight.

They closed all the shops so the only one who got stimulated was China who had a great run selling electronics and TVs over the internet. --76.178.xx.xx




Checks paid for TVs (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Nov 16, 2020 1:38 PM
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I think what JAC said is important here. We're all complaining/worrying about if some low-income tenant "wasted" "our tax money" on a big-screen TV. But that ignores the huge amount of money given to larger businesses or even smaller business through PPP loans and other things where, in many cases, they were simply not needed.

My main work is tied to a CPA firm. They estimate that at least 70% of their clients that applied for (and received and now likely won't have to pay back) PPP loans didn't actually need them at all. It was just seen as "free money" to them, so they took it.

The more we worry about how someone spent their $1200 "stimulus" check seems to be the less we think about the rampant abuse that occurred at a higher level.

I'm more concerned about the local chiropractor that got a free $50,000 (when he never even closed down) than whether or not a couple of my tenants may have bought new TVs.

- John...

--67.209.xxx.xx




Checks paid for TVs (by Jim in O C [CA]) Posted on: Nov 16, 2020 1:39 PM
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To give people more than they were earning is stupidity in the first degree. Why go back to work and get less money?

And these people will be in charge for the next four years? --99.23.xxx.x




Checks paid for TVs (by Jim in O C [CA]) Posted on: Nov 16, 2020 1:39 PM
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To give people more than they were earning is stupidity in the first degree. Why go back to work and get less money?

And these people will be in charge for the next four years? --99.23.xxx.x




Checks paid for TVs (by Jim in O C [CA]) Posted on: Nov 16, 2020 1:39 PM
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To give people more than they were earning is stupidity in the first degree. Why go back to work and get less money?

And these people will be in charge for the next four years? --99.23.xxx.x




Checks paid for TVs (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Posted on: Nov 16, 2020 3:13 PM
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Giving people more than they were earning had a very important goal that might end up being accomplished. The purpose was to keep the economy numbers bad to take a way T's most valuable talking point during the election. That and mail in votes were the two factors that might have changed the election, coupled with tons of election fraud of course, for good measure. --108.69.xxx.xxx




Checks paid for TVs (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Nov 16, 2020 3:31 PM
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So can we all agree it was stupid to slam the doors shut on 1/3 of the economy and buy people and businesses off with money we printed out of thin air that (maybe) our grandchildren will have to pay back, regardless of if you were a small business or Home Depot?

World Hunger Organization estimates between 130 - 300 million more people will starve this year than in 2019 due to disruption in 1st world economies. An additional 20-40 million will be pushed into abject poverty. Not, "I need Govt money to buy a TV" poor....more like "Dad gets to eat on Monday and Thursday, Mom gets to eat on Tuesday and Friday; kids get to eat on Wednesday, Saturday...and if life is good we all get to eat Sunday." This is the kind of poverty where a 12-year-old girl decides if she starves or becomes a prostitute so she can eat.

So while some may say we "saved" a lot of lives here, the long-term analysis is we simply traded them. And we traded at a rate of about 150 to 1 in favor of first world citizens.

If you'd like to be part of solving that conundrum, I invite you to take a look at an initiative my church is supporting called Venture.org. They provide "mana" packets which are cheap kits containing enough calories and vitamins to sustain a person. $1 buys 10 kits. Good organization. They're out there in the Philippians and Thailand serving the poorest of the poor.

None of us are getting out of this alive. When we shut down, we doom people we do not see to fates we cannot fathom. I say full steam ahead: open up the economy, get rid of all restrictions in public and private venues, and let's take this b*stard C-19 head on. We will limit our losses as much as practical without failing our mission, and in the days to come remember those who are truly getting the crap end of this stick. --107.216.xxx.xxx




Checks paid for TVs (by Fishsticks913 [IA]) Posted on: Nov 16, 2020 3:43 PM
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I have to agree with John here! We have a auto repair shop that didn't close at all. Didn't lay people off. Didn't lose a dime, actually made money as people didn't use their cars, so they could take them in to get things done it.

They didn't lose a penny... actually were the busiest they have been in years - per the owner... but they still got a $25,000.00 grant.

Guess what they are doing with the money? Upgrading their boat. :( --98.21.xx.xxx




Checks paid for TVs (by Jkj [MA]) Posted on: Nov 16, 2020 3:55 PM
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I think the problem is the misconception that many of these tenants arenít paying the LL the rent, which as we know from at least the posters on here, most have gotten their rent. Iím not saying there arenít LLís they havenít gotten it, just that the majority on here got it, (with the odd exception here and there). --174.242.xxx.xxx




Checks paid for TVs (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Nov 16, 2020 5:59 PM
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Sid,

I went to that web site........It is worth a C note.

Thanks --24.101.xxx.xx




Checks paid for TVs (by Jkj [MA]) Posted on: Nov 16, 2020 6:32 PM
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Sid, well said! I agree that the shutdowns from COVID are worse than COVID. Maybe not to you, me, or Joe Blow down the street, but as you said to ďpeople we donít seeĒ. --174.242.xxx.xxx




Checks paid for TVs (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Nov 17, 2020 10:42 AM
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On behalf of those people, Ray...thank you!

Jkj, yep. No one is talking about those people or the hundreds of thousands (millions perhaps?) suffering from depression, suicidal thoughts, abuse, alcoholism, etc. We're supposed to feel good about ourselves for wearing masks and locking down...for the "greater good". I wonder if we really know what that phrase means sometimes? --107.216.xxx.xxx




Checks paid for TVs (by #22 [MO]) Posted on: Nov 17, 2020 11:31 AM
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spot on Sid. There's a massive price being paid by people that are cooped up. Much higher than the deaths..there needs to be a better balance. Many compare shutting down as if there's no cost to it.... not sure what the silver bullet is tho --174.234.xxx.xxx




Checks paid for TVs (by Jkj [MA]) Posted on: Nov 17, 2020 12:38 PM
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To touch on what Sid and #22 said, Iím at the station today, are calls on section 12ís are way up, (involuntary commitment). Just today we assisted EMS with 4 section 12ís before noon, all mothers with young children. Itís taking a huge tolls on some people, mainly the 1ís nobody sees or cares about. Itís tragic. The catch phrase ďdo it for the greater goodĒ apparently doesnít apply to these people. --174.242.xxx.xxx



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