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What should I do? (by GKARL [PA]) Oct 27, 2020 9:03 AM
       What should I do? (by Bonanza [NC]) Oct 27, 2020 9:12 AM
       What should I do? (by Robert J [CA]) Oct 27, 2020 9:34 AM
       What should I do? (by Allym [NJ]) Oct 27, 2020 10:11 AM
       What should I do? (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Oct 27, 2020 10:12 AM
       What should I do? (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Oct 27, 2020 10:14 AM
       What should I do? (by Deanna [TX]) Oct 27, 2020 10:29 AM
       What should I do? (by Lynn [MA]) Oct 27, 2020 11:00 AM
       What should I do? (by MikeA [TX]) Oct 27, 2020 11:44 AM
       What should I do? (by BGP [PA]) Oct 27, 2020 12:58 PM
       What should I do? (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Oct 27, 2020 1:21 PM
       What should I do? (by Pmh [TX]) Oct 27, 2020 5:41 PM
       What should I do? (by Ken [NY]) Oct 27, 2020 5:50 PM
       What should I do? (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Oct 27, 2020 5:51 PM
       What should I do? (by Hoosier [IN]) Oct 27, 2020 6:53 PM
       What should I do? (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Oct 28, 2020 11:56 PM


What should I do? (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Oct 27, 2020 9:03 AM
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I purchased a duplex last summer at a sheriff's sale for 68K. I put another 60k into it and can sell it for about 220K. I set this place up for rental and have separated all utilities. It has central air and is a very nice place.

If I keep it, I'd net about 16,000k annually of cash flow after expenses (including reserves) and debt service. The market for both rentals and real estate sales is hot with an influx of new people coming into the area. My mind changes daily whether I should sell or keep. I think the economic situation is going to get worst overall and sometimes i think having more liquid cash around wouldn't be a bad idea. On the other hand, I got this place on the cheap and have set it up to rent and it will cash flow well perpetually. What would you advise?

--209.122.xx.xxx




What should I do? (by Bonanza [NC]) Posted on: Oct 27, 2020 9:12 AM
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I think it depends on your long term goals and out look on the future. If you believe that RE will decline within the next 3 years then sell and redeploy the funds then. Do you need the 16K income? What properties do you like? SFH or duplexes?

I think I would have a hard time letting it go if I fixed it up but then I am a buy and hold kind of guy and not a flipper.

I prefer SFH to duplexes so if that was my goal, I'd sell the duplex with the hope of buying a SFH in a downturn. I might hold it a year for tax purposes and then sell. --67.79.xxx.xxx




What should I do? (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Oct 27, 2020 9:34 AM
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You have three choices:

1) Keep and rent out, making over 9% on your money.

2) Sell it and pay taxes, making around $50,000 in net profit.

3) Sell it doing a 1031 exchange and buy another winner property.

Since you are making a good return on your money with rents, even if the market would drop in price, your set!

The only reason to sell is if you are Real Estate Rich and Cash Poor! Do a quick calculation on you Total Net Worth vs how much of that is in Property. When I went over 80% in real estate, I had to cut back and reevaluate my holdings...

--47.155.xx.xxx




What should I do? (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Oct 27, 2020 10:11 AM
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Decide after election. T will be good for either choice. B will bring energy prices through the roof. People do realize that B signed off on the sale of sensitive military vibration damper factory to the Chinese right? B or O had to sign off on the sale. --71.104.xx.xxx




What should I do? (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Oct 27, 2020 10:12 AM
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What is the surrounding neighborhood like? That has a huge influence on the potential long term value of the place. --76.178.xx.xx




What should I do? (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Oct 27, 2020 10:14 AM
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The election is only a few days from now. Perhaps wait to make the decision after the election. --76.178.xx.xx




What should I do? (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Oct 27, 2020 10:29 AM
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I'm a buy-and-hold kind of person as well. Things are tough for a lot of people, but there's no lack of money or competition-- people who are doing well are doing very well, and are looking for places to put their money for good returns. Even in my rural little area, we're seeing investors from DFW and Houston trying to buy houses on the cheap and then flip them, because the competition is so vigorous in their areas--- so they have to look into a market that's 100, 200, 400 miles away (that they know nothing about).

If I had a place that cost me $68k, and I put $60k into it, I'm all-in for $128k. If I sold it for $220, that leaves $100k. The government takes their chunk of it... and what do I do with the rest? Compete with everyone else who's also looking for a place to stash their money?

But if I've already got a place to stash my money, then I enjoy the $16k this year, and the $16k next year, and so on, until I was tired of making $16k/year and have a better opportunity where I can make $30k/year, or $60k/year on my $128k that's locked up in the form of a duplex.

But until I have those actual opportunities knocking on my door-- I'll leave it alone.

Now, if I was tired of my local ordinances regulating duplexes, and I wanted to get out of that specific market, I'd sell-- not for the money, but to escape from onerous regulations. If I was tired of the tenants that the duplexes attract, I'd sell-- not for the money, but because the stress wouldn't be worth it. If my health was bad, I'd sell it-- not for the money, but because my focus needed to be elsewhere. Etc. --137.118.xx.xxx




What should I do? (by Lynn [MA]) Posted on: Oct 27, 2020 11:00 AM
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I used to buy condos for $68k 10 years ago. A duplex or a two family in my market would be at least $500k. I can't see paying those prices, so I'm staying put. --66.30.xx.xx




What should I do? (by MikeA [TX]) Posted on: Oct 27, 2020 11:44 AM
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I have a similar situation on a SFH I picked up for on the cheap. Market is hot, inventory is very low, and prices are up. In my conservative market, real estate has never had the 20-40% swings like other areas. Prices are up about 12-15 percent over last year which is a huge swing for us. I'm betting there will be a downturn in the next year or two that will give me some more cheap properties and I want to have the cash to jump in with both feet.

You are in a more difficult dilemma being close to the NYC exodus. If you think that is the new trend, prices may not come down for you and you might want to stick with current investments. If you think it is temporary and they will migrate back then there may be some better opportunities to reinvest in the future as foreclosures pick back up. --64.130.xx.xxx




What should I do? (by BGP [PA]) Posted on: Oct 27, 2020 12:58 PM
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How did you buy it? Cash/Loan? How did you improve it? Cash/Loan? You mentioned debt service, so either there is a loan or you are paying yourself back? How long will it take to recoup what you put into it? Seems your options are Sell, 1031, Cash out Refi, HELOC, do nothing. Run the numbers and see which makes the best business sense. --73.81.xx.xx




What should I do? (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Oct 27, 2020 1:21 PM
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When I hear Duplex - along with location the two things that jump out at me our utility billing and layout.

If these are up and down layout or if they don't have separate utility meters, I would be pealing them off. If however if the place in a good location, with a good layout and separate utility bills - I would be keeping that all day long --24.101.xxx.xx




What should I do? (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Oct 27, 2020 5:41 PM
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16k annual on 128k investment is a cash cow. economy is always going to go up & down. but your rents are constant. I can’t think of any other place to park proceeds right now that will beat your roi.....and you can always increase rents. I never factor in appreciation. That is only captured on sale. --107.77.xxx.xxx




What should I do? (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Oct 27, 2020 5:50 PM
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I was taught by my dad to buy when noone wants them and sell when everyone wants them which in my area is about every 10 years so i am selling whatever i can now. --72.231.xxx.xxx




What should I do? (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Posted on: Oct 27, 2020 5:51 PM
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Why sell this nicely refurnished rental? I bet you have others that aren't performing as well, or in worse areas, or may have a big system that may need replacing in a year or two. Why not sell one of those? --108.69.xxx.xxx




What should I do? (by Hoosier [IN]) Posted on: Oct 27, 2020 6:53 PM
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Given those numbers, I'd keep it...assuming all your numbers are correct. You basically have a choice of taking the $220k and investing it elsewhere, or $16k/year. That infers a 7.3% return even without considering appreciation of the property. I think the "risk adjusted" return of the stock market is not that high....stocks are quite risky.

One thing I'd be really sure of though is whether the $16k is accurate...have you considered the time you spend managing the place as well as all other costs?

Good job, that's a good turnaround regardless of what you do! --99.92.xxx.xxx




What should I do? (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Oct 28, 2020 11:56 PM
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G,

Remember that $16,000 will leave you $9600 after taxes.

9600 / 128000 = 7% ROI

I'd hold it for a year from purchase then sell. With all the NY exodus it might go up in value.

BRAD --73.102.xxx.xxx





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