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seat and springs (by small potatoes [NY]) Oct 14, 2020 9:57 AM
       seat and springs (by RR78 [VA]) Oct 14, 2020 10:32 AM
       seat and springs (by myob [GA]) Oct 14, 2020 10:54 AM
       seat and springs (by 6x6 [TN]) Oct 14, 2020 4:12 PM
       seat and springs (by small potatoes [NY]) Oct 14, 2020 4:39 PM
       seat and springs (by RR78 [VA]) Oct 14, 2020 6:36 PM
       seat and springs (by Vee [OH]) Oct 14, 2020 6:40 PM
       seat and springs (by small potatoes [NY]) Oct 14, 2020 8:19 PM
       seat and springs (by small potatoes [NY]) Oct 14, 2020 8:19 PM
       seat and springs (by Sorta Blonde [CA]) Oct 14, 2020 10:12 PM
       seat and springs (by myob [GA]) Oct 16, 2020 8:44 AM
       seat and springs (by RR78 [VA]) Oct 16, 2020 11:07 AM
       seat and springs (by Sorta Blonde [CA]) Oct 16, 2020 11:41 AM
       seat and springs (by small potatoes [NY]) Oct 17, 2020 6:15 PM
       seat and springs (by RR78 [VA]) Oct 17, 2020 6:24 PM

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seat and springs (by small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Oct 14, 2020 9:57 AM
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I went to a call that a shower was not completely shutting off. It's a Delta series 13/14 single handle w/ a cartridge. The manual says try replacing the springs and seats first, then the O rings and lastly the cartridge if it does not make a rattling sound. When I pull the cartridge there are no parts behind it. I swap it for a new one and tighten the bonnet. When I turn the water on, it still has the same problem.

So I I go to install the springs and they are tight but also if I push too much they disappear into the valve housing. So then I have to go flush the water line to get them back. Ok, it's a sucky job on a good day. I am having no luck with the rubber seats going over the springs, so I take a spring out and just try the boot. It's larger than the hole. At this point I give up, put the new cartridge in and text my new handyman to take a turn. When I turn the water on it stays off! Handle works as it should.

I'm stumped about the springs an seats because the manual refers to them in the troubleshooting, but not in the install section. Delta info seems to indicate they are a universal item, yet are for ball valves. So there is some misinformation. What's the correct configuration for this Delta shower setup that's less than 5 years old?

--24.194.xxx.xxx




seat and springs (by RR78 [VA]) Posted on: Oct 14, 2020 10:32 AM
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Pretty sure the seats and springs are not for your model. That is for the old ball type.

Should just be the new cartridge needed. Not sure what the problem could be unless the new one was bad. --73.40.xx.xx




seat and springs (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Oct 14, 2020 10:54 AM
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There are many set ups for these showers and springs with cartridge's and size of cartridge's.

I will say when I change the rubber bonnets and springs I always lightly sand the plate those seals ride on. I use Vaseline on the springs (to help hold them in place) and very light coat on the face plate. (make sure plate isn't cracked) --99.103.xxx.xxx




seat and springs (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Oct 14, 2020 4:12 PM
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I Googled it real quick and it looks to be the same type that is in my rental which does not use the spring and seats but you replace the whole cartridge.

Did you buy a universal kit? That might be what is messing you up.

When you took the faucet apart and pulled out the cartridge, were there springs and seats in the valve body? Not the cartidge but the valve body?

If no, then just replace the cartridge. They also changed the design of the cartridge. --73.120.xx.xxx




seat and springs (by small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Oct 14, 2020 4:39 PM
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Correct when I took it apart there were no springs and boot. But the manual referred to them as a fix. Was stumped because the first time I put the Delta cartridge on it didn't fix. I had wiped the valve body down, but didn't have lube. --24.194.xxx.xxx




seat and springs (by RR78 [VA]) Posted on: Oct 14, 2020 6:36 PM
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I remember one delta model. Not sure if it is yours. But you could take apart the actual cartridge. And replace the cup washers inside.

But does sound like that is what your manual is saying.

Also are you using a generic or delta cartridge.

Also what 6x6 said. Think there was 2 different ones. One was white/grey and the other looked the same but had a blue base.

Make sure you have the right one. --73.40.xx.xx




seat and springs (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Oct 14, 2020 6:40 PM
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Delta has changed manufacturing process 3 times since the springs and umbrella design that came in mid 70's, what you need to know is the model number of the faucet to determine which pressure balance style is original, or replace the whole thing and tape the info inside the hardest kitchen cabinet door and the water heater body so you know where to begin. Without knowing where you are going any road will take you there. --76.188.xxx.xxx




seat and springs (by small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Oct 14, 2020 8:19 PM
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Thank you for your replies, Yes I had the manual, I bought the Delta cartridge listed in the manual (the gray one), The tub assembly is less than 5years old. I don't believe there is anything serviceable about the cartridge aside from the O rings.

Just frustrating that the manual has incorrect troubleshooting info. Yes Vee, I'm familiar with the middle age cartridge that was replaced w/ newer version in blue and white. Have that at the cabin. Learned the hard way not to leave it there for the winter, even though I disassembled the shower and blew it w/ compressed air. --24.194.xxx.xxx




seat and springs (by small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Oct 14, 2020 8:19 PM
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Thank you for your replies, Yes I had the manual, I bought the Delta cartridge listed in the manual (the gray one), The tub assembly is less than 5years old. I don't believe there is anything serviceable about the cartridge aside from the O rings.

Just frustrating that the manual has incorrect troubleshooting info. Yes Vee, I'm familiar with the middle age cartridge that was replaced w/ newer version in blue and white. Have that at the cabin. Learned the hard way not to leave it there for the winter, even though I disassembled the shower and blew it w/ compressed air. --24.194.xxx.xxx




seat and springs (by Sorta Blonde [CA]) Posted on: Oct 14, 2020 10:12 PM
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Super simple fix for a leaky, drippy shower head. I bought a small (nice chrome) ball lever valve (about an inch by 1/2 inch. It screws on between the shower head and the pipe from the handles. The handles were not shutting off the shower head and it kept dripping. Lever just flips to the side and shuts off the drip perfectly. Easy fix. Saved a bunch of money replacing the hot water faucet and tearing up the tile wall. Cost me about 5 bucks. --72.199.xx.xxx




seat and springs (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Oct 16, 2020 8:44 AM
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Sorta Blonde you havenow qualified to run for Supreme Court... so simple. --99.103.xxx.xxx




seat and springs (by RR78 [VA]) Posted on: Oct 16, 2020 11:07 AM
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SP

I think this is the instructions you missed.

3. To remove seats and springs. Remove valve cartridge. Separate cap assembly from the housing assembly by rotating the cap assembly counterclockwise 90 o (degrees). Separate cap and housing assemblies

Very easy to do. Just checked on the delta 13900 faucet we use.

We always keep a spare faucet and use same on all properties. If ever a problem we take the whole faucet since no sure what maybe needed.

Then use whatever part to get the job fixed. And call company for a free replacement part to put back in spare.

Delta we just use for Tub/showers. --73.40.xx.xx




seat and springs (by Sorta Blonde [CA]) Posted on: Oct 16, 2020 11:41 AM
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Thanks for the 'nomination' myob. Ha! Will I have to go through the vetting process or am I automatically approved? I could use some extra income. --72.199.xx.xxx




seat and springs (by small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Oct 17, 2020 6:15 PM
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RR78, thanks for that. I didn't think the newer cartridge was serviceable and it is not in the instructions I have. The old one I have twisted apart easily and the seats are smushed. I will try servicing the old one and take the new one back to the box store, save 50 bucks- 5 bucks for the springs 'kit'. If I root around I might even come up w/ seats on hand.

I have not been happy with delta foundations line so I avoid them for kitchen sinks. --24.194.xxx.xxx




seat and springs (by RR78 [VA]) Posted on: Oct 17, 2020 6:24 PM
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Also you should be able to call delta and have them send you a new one to keep on hand.

Dont mention you fixed the old one.

Sometimes dont need the receipt. Anything like the manual can work as proof of purchase. --73.40.xx.xx



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