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“Up to Code?” (by Anonymous [MA]) Oct 12, 2020 11:40 AM
       “Up to Code?” (by Mike45 [NV]) Oct 12, 2020 11:45 AM
       “Up to Code?” (by Barb [MO]) Oct 12, 2020 11:47 AM
       “Up to Code?” (by Anonymous [MA]) Oct 12, 2020 11:57 AM
       “Up to Code?” (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Oct 12, 2020 12:00 PM
       “Up to Code?” (by S i d [MO]) Oct 12, 2020 12:04 PM
       “Up to Code?” (by Steve [MA]) Oct 12, 2020 12:46 PM
       “Up to Code?” (by Robert J [CA]) Oct 12, 2020 1:08 PM
       “Up to Code?” (by Lynn [MA]) Oct 12, 2020 1:28 PM
       “Up to Code?” (by Richard [MI]) Oct 12, 2020 2:09 PM
       “Up to Code?” (by David [MI]) Oct 12, 2020 2:33 PM
       “Up to Code?” (by myob [GA]) Oct 12, 2020 2:48 PM
       “Up to Code?” (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Oct 12, 2020 3:18 PM
       “Up to Code?” (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Oct 12, 2020 3:19 PM
       “Up to Code?” (by Hoosier [IN]) Oct 12, 2020 4:28 PM
       “Up to Code?” (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Oct 12, 2020 10:05 PM
       “Up to Code?” (by S i d [MO]) Oct 13, 2020 7:57 AM
       “Up to Code?” (by J [FL]) Oct 13, 2020 8:33 AM
       “Up to Code?” (by J [FL]) Oct 13, 2020 8:33 AM
       “Up to Code?” (by Anonymous [MA]) Oct 13, 2020 10:20 AM
       “Up to Code?” (by J [FL]) Oct 13, 2020 12:58 PM
       “Up to Code?” (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Oct 13, 2020 2:27 PM
       “Up to Code?” (by Cjo’h [CT]) Oct 13, 2020 5:01 PM
       “Up to Code?” (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Oct 15, 2020 4:41 PM


“Up to Code?” (by Anonymous [MA]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2020 11:40 AM
Message:

I’m going to post this as Anonymous because lawyers may be soulless, but they are smart. Tenant would like to know if rental is “ up to code” because of an alleged stairway fall that happened on the property being blamed ( by tenant) on the home not being up to code. For the record, this home was built less than five years ago so had recent “ code” inspections to get the CO. Also had city inspection right before tenant moved in. Oh yeah- tenant also mentioned that they don’t have any money and can’t pay their bills.

--174.192.xx.xxx




“Up to Code?” (by Mike45 [NV]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2020 11:45 AM
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I would ignore the question. After all, I am not an expert on “the Code” and do not know if there is 100% compliance. If the T persists in his question, my answer would probably be “as far as I know, the house is up to Code.” --98.182.xxx.xxx




“Up to Code?” (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2020 11:47 AM
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The home is less than 5 years old and was built with all required permits and inspections.

There. That answers the question that is important. --67.43.xxx.xxx




“Up to Code?” (by Anonymous [MA]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2020 11:57 AM
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My reply was that it was a newer home and would have to be up to code to pass state inspections, which it did. Complaint was then that the exterior steps get wet when it rains. Winter should be fun with this one. Imagine the shock when they get snowy when it snows. Curse this moratorium! --174.192.xx.xxx




“Up to Code?” (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2020 12:00 PM
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If the tenant has a lawyer, the lawyer knows that all that information is available for free at the county building department.

I would send them Barb's answer. Perhaps it will head something off at the pass. Politely let him know that "code violation" won't work.

You can't now get rid of him because that would be retaliatory, but put him on your list to not renew. Or if he is very openly and obviously violating the lease in a dangerous manner and has had lots of notices to cure, you might be able to evict, maybe.

But I suspect that eviction is now out of the question. --76.178.xx.xx




“Up to Code?” (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2020 12:04 PM
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Another vote for the less said, the better. Here's another thought for a response that gives them nothing to go on.

"Thank you for inquiring about the features of this property. If you have specific concerns, please bring them to our attention."

Leave it at that. If they have something specific, it is their duty to report it to you. Otherwise, they are just "fishing" for you to comment in ways you are neither qualified nor obligated to comment.

Most houses are grandfathered in when code changes anyway, so even if something in Code changed in the last 5 years, odds are your property is covered.

Don't give them an inch of rope, or they'll try to hang you with it. --107.216.xxx.xxx




“Up to Code?” (by Steve [MA]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2020 12:46 PM
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I love Sid's response. FYI for the most part any home built in MA really only has to conform to the building code that was current when the building permit was issued not when it was finished. About the only exceptions are for the occasional life / safety code change.

As long as you applied for a permit, received a permit, built according to your permit, had your initial & final construction inspections and received an occupancy permit, you don't have much to be concerned about. --71.174.xxx.xx




“Up to Code?” (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2020 1:08 PM
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I am a Licensed Builder, Contractor, Owner, Investor and sometimes Inspector. If your "City" wants, then nothing is up to code!

Example: In one of my apartment buildings, one upstairs tenant had a rear stair case that went down to the parking area. Around every few months someone would back their vehicle into it, making it unsafe and needing repairs. The City ordered the wooden steps replaced with metal/concrete stops, costing around $10,000.

Knowing the code I pulled a permit to remove the old steps. Code states that any second set of steps for a unit having less than 1500 square feet is unnecessary.

The "City" hauled me into a hearing and tried to fine me, penalize me and make me install metal steps. The hearing officer and inspector wasn't aware of the 1500 square foot rule...So I won the case....

These "Code" mandates are dished out like Popsicle's on a hot summer day...

Like a judge once said, "Robert, what makes you such an expert when the "City" says you're wrong". I explain to the Judge that I only have 6 State licenses, a bunch of city licenses and some federal licenses as well, plus a bunch of credential's in related fields. While the City employee's are failed contractors with a 20 year old expired general license... --47.155.xx.xxx




“Up to Code?” (by Lynn [MA]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2020 1:28 PM
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I would think that there would have to be a defect for their case to be valid. If the stairs are built properly, you can't sue because it was an accident. --66.30.xx.xx




“Up to Code?” (by Richard [MI]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2020 2:09 PM
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Dear tenant,

I heard from multiple unnamed sources that you were either drunk or on some kind of medication or suspected drugs and that any fall you had was due to that.

Of course, go by the place and inspect to see that the tenant did not sabotage or damage anything. Take pictures. Get statements from "unnamed sources".

--24.180.xx.xx




“Up to Code?” (by David [MI]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2020 2:33 PM
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I only tell them that the house has a rental certificate indicating the city has inspected it . If they ask about something specific , I may say that furnace/roof/etc was installed with permit and inspection.

My houses were built in the 50s and I have yet to have a tenant ask me generically if it is "up to code". They have asked about the two-prong outlets. I will tell them that those are up to code but if they want grounded outlets, I can quote them a price for my electrician to come out. --50.4.xxx.x




“Up to Code?” (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2020 2:48 PM
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I just reviewed your file and the other Resident's files and no mention in any file about a code violation or any problem area as you describe.

Should you have additional questions please contact the property atty.

NOW BUTTON IT! --99.103.xxx.xxx




“Up to Code?” (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2020 3:18 PM
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Never say your house is up to code. Codes change. Maybe your hot water heater pan drain uses a 3/4 drain pipe and now the code is 1". You wouldn't be up to code.

All you should say is that the house passed code inspections and offer nothing more. Codes change everyday. And some codes are not enforced then suddenly enforced, like drip legs on hot water heater and HVAC gas line. --108.69.xxx.xxx




“Up to Code?” (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2020 3:19 PM
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Sorry, forgot to mention. Saying it's up to code in court, under oath, is a sure fire perjury trap. --108.69.xxx.xxx




“Up to Code?” (by Hoosier [IN]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2020 4:28 PM
Message:

I agree with Sid, and many others. --99.92.xxx.xxx




“Up to Code?” (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2020 10:05 PM
Message:

Minimum standards the house or rental unit can be slum where there is loose or missing plaster or unpainted surfaces where the colour does not to match. No loose or missing tiles where tiles have to be same level but do not have match. The heating, hot water must work along no leaks in roof or any of the plumbing. The sidewalk coming up must be level. No exposed wiring where covers must be on light switch and receptacles along with main panel must have be covered. Generally building and fire codes apply to the year a building was built where seldom they require to upgrade to present codes which are always changing. Some towns and cities building and fire codes can be downloaded or a booklet at the town hall. If there is code violation then going to talk with building inspector when the code violation can be cleared up is the best way to resolve. One time had a problem with a building inspector where the tenant complained about mold in the bathroom which had operating exhaust fan. The stupidity she was doing laundry in the bathtub with hot water where had commercial front load washing machines and commercial natural gas clothes dryers in the basement. Asked the senior building inspector what do want to do about this as laundry should be done in the laundry room or a laundromat. I showed picture of the commercial machines in the laundry room. He agreed with me that the tenant was the problem not the building where regrouted all the porcelain tiles in the living room. Tenants want to play the defer the eviction game. --147.194.xxx.xx




“Up to Code?” (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Oct 13, 2020 7:57 AM
Message:

After seeing some responses here, I need to repeat and emphasize two thoughts from my original post:

1) You are neither QUALIFIED nor OBLIGATED to say if you house is "up to code"....so DON'T say one word about the house being up to current or former code, inspections, etc.

2) Everything you say CAN and WILL be used against you to hang you.

If they have a SPECIFIC problem, they report it as a maintenance issue. Don't be the fish that nibbles at the bait, or you will get hooked. --107.216.xxx.xxx




“Up to Code?” (by J [FL]) Posted on: Oct 13, 2020 8:33 AM
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It's a strange question to ask about a staircase. I could see someone asking it about one of those "garage to room" conversions (we have a lot of them here and they are definintely not up to code). But not stairs that were put in by a builder. --72.188.xxx.xxx




“Up to Code?” (by J [FL]) Posted on: Oct 13, 2020 8:33 AM
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It's a strange question to ask about a staircase. I could see someone asking it about one of those "garage to room" conversions (we have a lot of them here and they are definintely not up to code). But not stairs that were put in by a builder. --72.188.xxx.xxx




“Up to Code?” (by Anonymous [MA]) Posted on: Oct 13, 2020 10:20 AM
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Thanks for all the responses. The only thing I said was that it would have not passed inspections if it was not up to code. Tenant was emphasizing that they are having trouble paying their rent . I was at the property picking up late rent when the conversation occurred . I think they were trying to work me for a free month’s rent. Didn’t happen. --75.133.xxx.xx




“Up to Code?” (by J [FL]) Posted on: Oct 13, 2020 12:58 PM
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It does sound like they are trying to play you. Kind of like when someone brings up non-existent mold? --72.188.xxx.xxx




“Up to Code?” (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Oct 13, 2020 2:27 PM
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If the tenant calls the building inspector then ask to meet the building inspector at the rental building to go over if there are any building or fire code violations. Often a minor problem can be cleared up. One tenant was not going to allow workers into the rental unit where the building inspector said that was end right there. Consider joining a landlords association where google to find. If a difficult situation develops then will get help. The cost of membership will be small but the help received will be great. Government funded extreme left wing tenancy advocate groups tell tenants how to play to no rent game. --147.194.xxx.xx




“Up to Code?” (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Oct 13, 2020 5:01 PM
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Anonymous,lawyers may be well versed in the law,but as to being smart,I wouldn’t want to bet my life savings on it,most would fail miserly,now what else did you want to know?...........charlie..................? ? ? ? ?.......................... --32.214.xxx.xx




“Up to Code?” (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Oct 15, 2020 4:41 PM
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I would answer the question "Is it up to code"

Yes it was built to code and it has a current CO and tax bill too.

Is it up to code? What code? ICC, the UCC, NEC or property maintenance code. They are asking if the place is legal. So answer - with it is taxed --24.101.xxx.xx





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