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are LLs better off ? (by David [MI]) Oct 11, 2020 9:41 AM
       are LLs better off ? (by NE [PA]) Oct 11, 2020 10:38 AM
       are LLs better off ? (by DJ [VA]) Oct 11, 2020 11:56 AM
       are LLs better off ? (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Oct 11, 2020 12:01 PM
       are LLs better off ? (by Hoosier [IN]) Oct 11, 2020 12:04 PM
       are LLs better off ? (by DJ [VA]) Oct 11, 2020 12:09 PM
       are LLs better off ? (by David [MI]) Oct 11, 2020 12:15 PM
       are LLs better off ? (by RB [MI]) Oct 11, 2020 12:16 PM
       are LLs better off ? (by NE [PA]) Oct 11, 2020 12:29 PM
       are LLs better off ? (by Sorta Blonde [CA]) Oct 11, 2020 12:30 PM
       are LLs better off ? (by 6x6 [TN]) Oct 11, 2020 12:55 PM
       are LLs better off ? (by Deanna [TX]) Oct 11, 2020 1:32 PM
       are LLs better off ? (by RB [MI]) Oct 11, 2020 7:21 PM
       are LLs better off ? (by 6x6 [TN]) Oct 12, 2020 8:14 AM
       are LLs better off ? (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Oct 14, 2020 9:00 PM


are LLs better off ? (by David [MI]) Posted on: Oct 11, 2020 9:41 AM
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I wasn't around, but I imagine most of you were , 40 years ago this month when then-candidate Ronald Reagan gave the speech beginning with "Are you better off than you were four years ago? Is it easier for you to buy things in the store? Is there more or less unemployment in the country?" It is worth a watch on youtube for a refresher. Politically, it is a masterpiece as it is simple and easy to digest

I spent the last 7 months thinking about what that means, who is the "you"?

Is "you" the individual voter?

Is "you" your extended family and friends?

Is "you" the local community?

Is "you" everyone, ie, "we the people" of this county?

Is "you" the small business you own?

I, and many of you, as individual landlords may be better off financially at this snapshot in time, but the CDC moratorium has changed the rules of the game. Much as security and police keep a check on shoplifting , the eviction serves as a way to ensure that landlords get paid what the lease says. Landlords now have no way to enforce their contracts to ensure they are paid.

I won't mince words. The CDC moratorium was something I expected from a President Bernie , not from an administration that claims to value economic liberty. Oh the CDC is run by Deep State Bureaucrats you say? I have not heard a peep out of a single politician about this infringement of freedom of contract and property rights.

There has not been a single "check" on the CDC authority, not by state governments or by congress (though there is a federal lawsuit pending). Worse, in Texas, their supreme court has gone even further, mandating that local courts notify tenants of the CDC form. It is simply cringe-worthy to watch the same people who complained about "individual mandates" to sit back and let this happen.

I am not a people person, I hate dealing with difficult tenants. So around 2-3 years ago, I decided to require a 720 credit score of new tenants , and a year ago declined to renew existing difficult tenants. I got lucky, I think many tenants I had early on would have taken advantage of the moratoria. So while I, as an individual and as an owner of a rental small business may be better off from the numbers of financial standing, I think far worse off in terms of the foundations of the rental business. --50.4.xxx.x




are LLs better off ? (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 11, 2020 10:38 AM
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Paid off dumps that are rented via oral contract for cash only to half wits that are easily controllable may be the landlording of the future.

If and this is a HUGE IF, we return to normal, everything is changing and fast.

It's all guesswork right now. We are fumbling in the dark. --70.44.xxx.xx




are LLs better off ? (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Oct 11, 2020 11:56 AM
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Good thoughts to ponder. Honestly, I'm really not sure of the answer (who is better off - or not?)

On the other point, I think you may both be right. Going forward, tenants will have to meet much higher standards to get a nice place with a professional-acting landlord.

OR

They will have to submit to living in a dump and suffer self-help eviction type tactics from strong-arm type landlords.

What happens to those in between?

Perhaps expansion of long-term gov't assistance (most likely) --70.160.xxx.xxx




are LLs better off ? (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Oct 11, 2020 12:01 PM
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Until the day after the election then the government is going to have face reality where this legislation is going to challenged as violating constitutional rights. Rent is the revenue source where goods and services are bought locally which effects the economy. In the province of Ontario there is year backlog before a hearing day. Bill 184 was passed where tenants can voluntary set up a payment plan where if they default then can go for a eviction. The extreme leftist groups held demonstrations where in some cases they became violent where there was property damage. The extreme leftist groups do not believe in private sector rental housing where reality with universal health care how is it going to possible to buy all the rental housing stock from private owners. Modern medical care is expensive no matter who pays for it which means higher taxes. The free for all can not go on forever where people are receiving funds for food and housing not anything else. Here people were receiving $2,000 Cdn. per month for food and housing where now they can apply for UI. If the economy is going to recover then business needs to function. We all remember when they voted in Socialist provincial government in the province of Ontario where they said they were bankrupt all the private sector rental providers with punitive rent control system. One day 20,000 jobs were lost then later another 20,000 jobs were lost. A lot of tenants suddenly found they had no job. They even brought penalties for repairs, renovations where if a more efficient heating system was installed then tenants could apply for rent reduction where all the work was stopped. Socialism never worked in Canada or anywhere in the world. --147.194.xxx.xx




are LLs better off ? (by Hoosier [IN]) Posted on: Oct 11, 2020 12:04 PM
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I too am saddened that no politician is speaking out on this infringement. I've written my Congresspeople, just need to hope hundreds of thousands more do the same thing or it won't hit their radar.

Even before this, I was saddened by all the corruption, deceit, and malfeasance on BOTH sides. I have mentioned to my wife that it would be nice to vote every single one of them out (yes, even the ones I like) and start fresh. Send a message that if you misbehave, you WON'T be back.

I'm better off than I was years ago, but certainly not so much because of what they have done...it's because of my actions and effort since then.

--99.92.xxx.xxx




are LLs better off ? (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Oct 11, 2020 12:09 PM
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And regarding the CDC - in my opinion - it's not nearly as bad as many of the other things that have been put in place by state governments.

(except for the fact that it's also unconstitutional taking of property without compensation & voiding legal contracts, and all that of course - same as the others)

At least the CDC requires some sort of communication from tenant to landlord, and some proof of the source of their problem, threat of purgery and such. NOT that it will necessarily be enforced correctly, AND it still causes delays and expenses to property owners, but....... it's quite a bit better than others. --70.160.xxx.xxx




are LLs better off ? (by David [MI]) Posted on: Oct 11, 2020 12:15 PM
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DJ, the biggest problem I have is not directly with the CDC order itself.

It is with the people who complained loudly and vigorously about "the other things that have been put in place by state governments". I have been following state and CDC eviction mortatoria closely in the news, and other than RE and LL groups, not a single peep from the liberty and freedom crowd.

--50.4.xxx.x




are LLs better off ? (by RB [MI]) Posted on: Oct 11, 2020 12:16 PM
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Are ya coming in, going along or leaving the band ?

I started cashing in my chips,

(selling rentals)

4 years ago.

Dowhatyagottado.

There's more to life than Tenants, Toilets and Taxes.

Enjoy the ride !

--199.192.xxx.x




are LLs better off ? (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 11, 2020 12:29 PM
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David, I'm not sure that I am catching your drift. --70.44.xxx.xx




are LLs better off ? (by Sorta Blonde [CA]) Posted on: Oct 11, 2020 12:30 PM
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I can't tell if I'm better or worse. Things just keep going up and down. In our city (just south of San Diego proper) the rule for not paying rent is totally favoring the Tenants. Landlord can (actually MUST) give 15 day notices about non-payment, and Tenant MUST receive from Landlord, a whole slew of paperwork telling them their rights. Must be signed, dated, lalala. The city site provides instructions for the Tenant on how to make sure they get everything they need. AND Tenant can skate by no matter what, because, according to our city's rules, if their income is less than $100,000. a year, the Tenant does NOT have to provide proof that they are financially impacted by Covid. Yeah. That's what the city rules are saying. AND if the Landlord does anything wrong, the Tenant can SUE but the Landlord cannot do anything until March 31, of 2021. Something is terribly wrong with all this. --72.199.xx.xxx




are LLs better off ? (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Oct 11, 2020 12:55 PM
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RB, what made you start selling off 4 years ago?

What were you predicting? --73.120.xx.xxx




are LLs better off ? (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Oct 11, 2020 1:32 PM
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I've said it before--- but housing is starting to mirror healthcare. When something is promoted from ordinary business transaction to a right, then the suppliers have an obligation to provide it, no matter the cost to themselves or their desire to serve/do business with a particular individual-- then you start getting into these sorts of situations.

I'm curious to see if someone with deeper pockets and a better grounding in law will be able to challenge the CDC's overreach. I understand the desire to protect people who have been affected beyond their capacity to deal with--- but in general, people agreed to cooperate by derailing their personal lives to keep from overwhelming the hospital system with millions of ill patients. Once it became clear that most people survive, and most people are able to recuperate at home--- it reminds me of the saying that those who give up liberty in exchange for safety don't deserve either. : --137.118.xx.xxx




are LLs better off ? (by RB [MI]) Posted on: Oct 11, 2020 7:21 PM
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6x6, nothing scientific, here.

Pointing my life in a new direction.

All part of my exit strategy.

"and I did it my way" Thanks, Frank and Elvis.

--199.192.xxx.x




are LLs better off ? (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2020 8:14 AM
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Thank you RB --73.120.xx.xxx




are LLs better off ? (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Oct 14, 2020 9:00 PM
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I was thought that there were three branches of government. At this point, I believe thee are four. The bureaucracy is the newest --24.101.xxx.xx





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