Remodeling a Slab
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Remodeling a Slab (by Deanna [TX]) Sep 24, 2020 9:46 AM
       Remodeling a Slab (by Steve [MA]) Sep 24, 2020 9:56 AM
       Remodeling a Slab (by DJ [VA]) Sep 24, 2020 10:33 AM
       Remodeling a Slab (by Allym [NJ]) Sep 24, 2020 11:11 AM
       Remodeling a Slab (by Richard [MI]) Sep 24, 2020 11:34 AM
       Remodeling a Slab (by Barb [MO]) Sep 24, 2020 11:44 AM
       Remodeling a Slab (by Gene [OH]) Sep 24, 2020 1:06 PM
       Remodeling a Slab (by WMH [NC]) Sep 24, 2020 1:07 PM
       Remodeling a Slab (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Sep 24, 2020 3:52 PM
       Remodeling a Slab (by razorback_tim [AR]) Sep 24, 2020 6:10 PM
       Remodeling a Slab (by Deanna [TX]) Sep 24, 2020 6:27 PM
       Remodeling a Slab (by Robert J [CA]) Sep 24, 2020 7:11 PM
       Remodeling a Slab (by MikeA [TX]) Sep 24, 2020 7:32 PM


Remodeling a Slab (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Sep 24, 2020 9:46 AM
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We're considering picking up a place in the near future. In my area, everything is pier-and-beam, but this has an ADU on a slab.

The ADU is a 4/1. (It used to be a 3/1 one-story garage apartment from 1945, but the parking bay has been bedroom-ified.) So the whole thing is on a poured slab.

The only bathroom is off one of the bedrooms. And while that wasn't a big deal back in 1945, it's perceived as more of an inconvenience nowadays.

If we're successful in getting it, I'd like to look at taking one of the extra bedrooms and turning it into a bathroom/utility room, to turn it into a 3/2 with laundry hookups. But with the slab in the way, I have no clue how expensive that kind of change will be. It might even be cheaper to build a little addition... but then I'd start getting into permit territory, which I'd prefer to avoid.

Any advice? --137.118.xx.xxx




Remodeling a Slab (by Steve [MA]) Posted on: Sep 24, 2020 9:56 AM
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If they're allowed in your area a Sani-Flow toilet system might be just the ticket for adding an extra bath. --71.174.xxx.xx




Remodeling a Slab (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Sep 24, 2020 10:33 AM
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If the under-slab sewer drain is near where you want to add more drains, jack-hammer the slab between, make the connection, and pour new concrete.

OR

If the new drains are on an exterior wall, you can run them to the outside & trench them meet the existing sewer line.

I think it's less work & cleaner result to jack-hammer & re-pour. Unless it's all the way across the building (but I doubt you would design it that way?) --70.160.xxx.xxx




Remodeling a Slab (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Sep 24, 2020 11:11 AM
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Sounds like a mess but you are getting a lot of new people from CA so how about using it as a business rental? Your economy should be screaming hot very soon. --71.104.xx.xxx




Remodeling a Slab (by Richard [MI]) Posted on: Sep 24, 2020 11:34 AM
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Build a raised platform for the bath floor or at least the tub/shower/toilet area. About 6 inches should do it. Set them and hook up.

If you have to jackhammer the slab anyway just do that and don't do the raised platform.

I've had several places where the raised platform was used and it works fine. --24.180.xx.xx




Remodeling a Slab (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Sep 24, 2020 11:44 AM
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Based on the age - before you make a decision I'd get a camera in to inspect the sewer line that is existing. A 1945 sewer line is nearing the end of life, if not past it, depending on what it was made of. That will give you more of an answer as to how to address.

If you need to replace the sewer line, I'd take the plunge and jackhammer concrete, run new sewer to old bathroom and plumb for new one at the same time. That will be the cleanest solution, and will give you another 50 years of sewer line.

Otherwise, I'd market it as a 3/1, with a family room, den or game room, where the bathroom is off that family room. :) Then, I'd make the change when you are ready to update the sewer line.

--67.43.xxx.xxx




Remodeling a Slab (by Gene [OH]) Posted on: Sep 24, 2020 1:06 PM
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I have a slab house that was built in 1953. I was doing a kitchen remodel and we were only going to replace the drain lines above the slab. Luckily we found out before we put in the kitchen and the bathroom, that some of the underground drain pipes had corroded through. As a result, we had to jack hammer up the slab in the kitchen and bath areas (back to back) and replace all of the drain lines below the slab.

If the house and the underground drains are old enough, I would suggest you redo the underground drain lines before doing any costly remodeling to the kitchen and bath. --104.225.xxx.xxx




Remodeling a Slab (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Sep 24, 2020 1:07 PM
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We tried the jackhammer route a few ADUs ago, and it was going to take days and days at plumber's rates, it was amazing how tough going it was. (We've jackhammered before, so this was a surprise.) We abandoned that idea and did the elevated bathroom design instead, with a step up so the plumber could do the slope for the waste line properly. Tied in to existing septic outside.

Bathroom came out great, was MUCH easier and no one minds the step (even the inspector, because it was done right.) Yes, NE, had to use a plumber and have it inspected to make the ADU legal. --50.82.xxx.xxx




Remodeling a Slab (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Posted on: Sep 24, 2020 3:52 PM
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Give the garage conversion a real good lookover to make sure it was done right. Make sure they leveled the floor instead of leaving it sloped for a garage. Also make sure it's properly vented and insulated. Also check for permit on the conversion. Could be a problem for you later.

Also make sure there's enough parking. I hate neighborhoods where all the homes converted their garages and everyone parks on the street. --108.69.xxx.xxx




Remodeling a Slab (by razorback_tim [AR]) Posted on: Sep 24, 2020 6:10 PM
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When I've done this before it has not been that big of a deal. Paint your layout on top of the concrete. Then saw trenches in the concrete where you will be running your drain lines. You can cross-saw them too if you want to make the jack-hammering easier. This way you are not really busting out the slab, just busting the slab you've already cut into small enough pieces to handle. When you're done you can use Quikrete to rough-fill the holes and then skim before you install your flooring. If you really want to go all-out, drill some holes in the edges of the slab you've cut and insert some rebar. Having seen the photos of other projects you've done I know you can handle it. --70.178.x.xx




Remodeling a Slab (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Sep 24, 2020 6:27 PM
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Ohhhhhhh!

I like that!

You're very smart, Razorback!

Thank you to everyone for all the perspectives--- they've been very helpful. I've definitely got a clearer idea as to what needs to happen, if we end up with it.

(And yeah--- parking is a whole 'nuther ball game on this one, ugh.) --137.118.xx.xxx




Remodeling a Slab (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Sep 24, 2020 7:11 PM
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I picked up an apartment property with some garages converted to an ADU, on a slab. While pulling the records I found some discrepancy's. Dates of when the permits were pulled, inspected and finalized. Then a span before a Certificate of Occupancy was give.

The escrow company provided me with Title Insurance with copy's of the two Certificates of Occupancy and stated that all units were legal. I purchased the property.

I went to pull all of the City records on the property and had to pay an inspector to accompany me while viewing records. Records are now closed to the public.

I found out that several contractors, architect's and three owners worked on the ADU over a 14 year period. Things were done wrong but when the Final Cert. of Occupancy was issued, a letter was issued that all concerns were taken care of and the the ADU is now a legal unit.

Around 3 months into my ownership the City issued a Violation Order, I have an illegal unit rented out and told my tenants they need not pay me any rent.

The issue was in the past the owners never paid some of the Housing fee's associate with Rent Control on this unit, since it was converted after the rent control time period was over. BUT, I paid those fee's on the unit two days after I purchased it and updated the information in the Housing Department Computer, Rent Stabilization's Computer and in the County Tax Assessor's computer.

The City made a "mistake" and allowed me to continue to collect new rents and rent out this ADU... --47.155.xx.xxx




Remodeling a Slab (by MikeA [TX]) Posted on: Sep 24, 2020 7:32 PM
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I've done several. Usually just run it straight out the back and then pick up the existing sewer line in the back yard. As Razorback said, cut the sides with a concrete saw and then jackhammer it out. The cut lines makes it easier. I usually have an unskilled guy do the cuts and jackhammer work to save the plumber costs but paint lines where you want them to cut rather than just explaining it. That was my first lesson learned. --64.130.xx.xxx





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