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Which Roofe to Choose? (by Nancy [IN]) Sep 18, 2020 4:13 PM
       Which Roofe to Choose? (by WMH [NC]) Sep 18, 2020 4:20 PM
       Which Roofe to Choose? (by Nancy [IN]) Sep 18, 2020 4:28 PM
       Which Roofe to Choose? (by Steve [MA]) Sep 18, 2020 4:52 PM
       Which Roofe to Choose? (by Robert J [CA]) Sep 18, 2020 6:44 PM
       Which Roofe to Choose? (by 6x6 [TN]) Sep 18, 2020 6:47 PM
       Which Roofe to Choose? (by PG [SC]) Sep 18, 2020 8:19 PM
       Which Roofe to Choose? (by Allym [NJ]) Sep 18, 2020 9:28 PM
       Which Roofe to Choose? (by Small potatoes [NY]) Sep 19, 2020 1:14 AM
       Which Roofe to Choose? (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Sep 19, 2020 1:48 AM
       Which Roofe to Choose? (by nhsailmaker [NH]) Sep 19, 2020 7:26 AM
       Which Roofe to Choose? (by Robin [WI]) Sep 19, 2020 2:39 PM
       Which Roofe to Choose? (by Nancy [IN]) Sep 19, 2020 2:55 PM
       Which Roofe to Choose? (by JKJ [MA]) Sep 19, 2020 3:00 PM
       Which Roofe to Choose? (by Nancy [IN]) Sep 19, 2020 3:09 PM
       Which Roofe to Choose? (by Robert J [CA]) Sep 19, 2020 3:27 PM
       Which Roofe to Choose? (by Vee [OH]) Sep 19, 2020 3:43 PM
       Which Roofe to Choose? (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Sep 19, 2020 4:43 PM
       Which Roofe to Choose? (by Nancy [IN]) Sep 19, 2020 5:49 PM
       Which Roofe to Choose? (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Sep 19, 2020 9:24 PM
       Which Roofe to Choose? (by Robert J [CA]) Sep 19, 2020 10:54 PM
       Which Roofe to Choose? (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Sep 20, 2020 2:22 AM
       Which Roofe to Choose? (by Bonanza [NC]) Sep 20, 2020 8:22 AM
       Which Roofe to Choose? (by Nancy [IN]) Sep 20, 2020 2:43 PM
       Which Roofe to Choose? (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Sep 20, 2020 6:44 PM
       Which Roofe to Choose? (by JKJ [MA]) Sep 20, 2020 7:24 PM
       Which Roofe to Choose? (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Sep 20, 2020 9:23 PM
       Which Roofe to Choose? (by Nicole [PA]) Sep 20, 2020 9:57 PM
       Which Roofe to Choose? (by Homer [TX]) Sep 20, 2020 11:52 PM
       Which Roofe to Choose? (by Sandy [CO]) Sep 20, 2020 11:58 PM
       Which Roofe to Choose? (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Sep 21, 2020 12:16 AM
       Which Roofe to Choose? (by Nancy [IN]) Sep 21, 2020 12:27 AM
       Which Roofe to Choose? (by Nancy [IN]) Sep 21, 2020 12:28 AM
       Which Roofe to Choose? (by Cjo’h [CT]) Sep 21, 2020 10:57 AM
       Which Roofe to Choose? (by Cjo’h [CT]) Sep 21, 2020 11:06 AM
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       Which Roofe to Choose? (by MJ [PA]) Sep 21, 2020 11:51 AM
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       Which Roofe to Choose? (by Cjo’h [CT]) Sep 21, 2020 12:37 PM
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Which Roofe to Choose? (by Nancy [IN]) Posted on: Sep 18, 2020 4:13 PM
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Dilemma: Two roofers, both insured and with Workman's Comp, documents and written bids already provided. Spoke with both at length in person.

This is a home, not a rental this time. All other bids weeded out for various reasons (non-responsive, could not provide insurance declaration, wants 50% up front, etc).

First Contractor has 33 glowing recent reviews, his own team that does all the work (does NOT sub), but bid is DOUBLE the cost of the second bid. 15K

Second Contractor has 7 glowing recent to older reviews, a very young guy (third generation) who stays on site the entire time (verified), but DOES sub out, bid is less than 1/2 the cost of the first - 7K (Small town contractor about 70 miles away, which I presume is one reason for the lower bid.)

Which would you choose and why? Help me analyze this. I want to do this right and once. Thanks!

--68.58.xx.xxx




Which Roofe to Choose? (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Sep 18, 2020 4:20 PM
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How big is the roof?? --50.82.xxx.xxx




Which Roofe to Choose? (by Nancy [IN]) Posted on: Sep 18, 2020 4:28 PM
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Sorry about the Typo. Should be ROOFER, of course.

Roof is about 25 squares. One story garage abutting two story house. --68.58.xx.xxx




Which Roofe to Choose? (by Steve [MA]) Posted on: Sep 18, 2020 4:52 PM
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Unless it's common in your area for contractors to travel 140 miles round trip to do roofing or other contracting work, I'd be skeptical of being able to reach them if a problem should arise. Even when I had 8-10 guys working for me we rarely traveled out of my small town much less 70 miles to find work.

Have you actually talked to any of their references or are you just going by some sort of review? --71.174.xxx.xx




Which Roofe to Choose? (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Sep 18, 2020 6:44 PM
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I am a licensed contractor and landlord. In the past I had several large apartment buildings with partners. The partners were "older" and thought they were "wiser" than myself. So when it came to put a roof on a building of ours, they wanted to get outside bids. I provided a bid too.

What my partners didn't realize is some roofers send out their estimator who has the "gift of gab". Could charm a snake or sell ice to eskimos. They promise the world and write a good contract/estimate. These are Corp's or LLC's.

Other roofers send out the owner, a one man show with employee's to do the installation. They may be a Sole Proprietorship.

Anyways my partners out voted me but I was allowed to review the contract. Comes the day of installation. Or contract called for 30 pound felt underlayment with a 30 year roof three tab singles.

What the roofers were installing as only a 15 pound felt underlayment with only a 20 year roof. We were being cheated. I asked "what's going on". They said they were going to double the 15 pound felt. But so far they didn't and they only had enough for 1 covering at 15 pounds. I made them tear off what they started and re-do it with the agreed materials.

Meaning no matter what you get a contactor to put down on paper, it does not mean a thing, unless:

a) you are on the job site and check the work yourself.

b) Have a payment a performance Bond.

c) Have a good attorney who will get out of paying the contactor the full price since he did a half as_ job and should only get paid half! --47.155.xx.xxx




Which Roofe to Choose? (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Sep 18, 2020 6:47 PM
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Have you personally called the insurance companies and verified that all of the insurance is current and that the coverage is correct? That is a must as some will lie but give papers. I had someone do that once.

I agree with Steve as well. --73.120.xx.xxx




Which Roofe to Choose? (by PG [SC]) Posted on: Sep 18, 2020 8:19 PM
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I agree with Robert J

Unfortunately now days you need to be very knowledgeable about any sort of work your getting done.

Try to determine the Market Price in your area that a licensed and bonded roofing contractor would charge for:

Removal of existing shingles.

material cost for 25 squares of the shingles you prefer.

Labor cost per square to install.

Labor cost for unforeseen roof sheeting repair.

That will give you a ball park estimate.

Do you know a general contractor in the area, if so he could give you some rough numbers on a fair price for the job.

Also he could recommend a roofing contractor you can TRUST to do a good job at a fair price.

--184.63.xxx.xx




Which Roofe to Choose? (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Sep 18, 2020 9:28 PM
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If he stays on the job I would not mind the subs, if he is a "class act". Just had a roof like that. Contractor was a refined individual whose father was also a roofer. I met the subs the day they started work and they were great also. This contractor would not want to work with second rate people either. When the boss leaves, even though he has his employees, everything changes. They get loud, sloppy, arms flying around and radio gets loud and it's bad. --71.104.xx.xxx




Which Roofe to Choose? (by Small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Sep 19, 2020 1:14 AM
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Wait I don't get the part where the owner sticks around and works w the subs. Is he acting as a gc? It gets complicated when sometimes tells someone else's employees what to do. Maybe he has a dummy company set up to take on the employee liability? You will know he has insurance when you ask him to bend you as additional insured for the project. Does not cost extra and his insurer will be familiar w it. Then he should produce a certificate for the job w your address and name. Anyway it doesn't matter if the other roofer has his own crew, young guys attracted to roofing lack in many other ways, and are not the cream of the crop (I'm generalizing)

He's charging you for the travel. --24.194.xxx.xxx




Which Roofe to Choose? (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Sep 19, 2020 1:48 AM
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Nancy,

The going rate in Indiana for insurance to pay for a roof is about $250 per square. That’s why roofers chase after hail damage paid by ins.

I pay MY roofing contractor $100 per square labor to remove and relay. I pay for materials.

For comparison, were the other quotes in line?

Also, contractors make mistakes.

AND some will gouge you.

BRAD --73.102.xxx.xxx




Which Roofe to Choose? (by nhsailmaker [NH]) Posted on: Sep 19, 2020 7:26 AM
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Roofing is NOT Rocket science

$275/sq to roof over $375 / sq to strip and replace

choose the best price and keep and eye on them

hire loca --24.62.xxx.xxx




Which Roofe to Choose? (by Robin [WI]) Posted on: Sep 19, 2020 2:39 PM
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The first guy doesn't really want the work, the second doesn't "smell" right. If he's traveling 70 miles, he doesn't have enough work, which means there's a problem. Any decent contractor right now is swamped with work. I'd get a couple more quotes. --104.230.xxx.xx




Which Roofe to Choose? (by Nancy [IN]) Posted on: Sep 19, 2020 2:55 PM
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Going by online reviews on various sites, which are quite consistent for these two. I should ask for a couple of references to speak to, I realize.

It is not terribly uncommon for businesses of small towns to travel to large town for work. These guys were on another job 20 minutes away when guy came to see me.

Robert J (CA). That was very helpful. Will be on site and checking materials. Do have the attorney. Will check on the bond. --68.58.xx.xxx




Which Roofe to Choose? (by JKJ [MA]) Posted on: Sep 19, 2020 3:00 PM
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I agree with nhsailmaker, roofing isn’t rocket science, a monkey that’s not afraid of heights and doesn’t mind the sun can do it. I also agree with Steve, traveling 2 plus hours round trip for a half days work doesn’t sit well with me, roofers stay local typically, especially for small jobs. --70.20.xx.xx




Which Roofe to Choose? (by Nancy [IN]) Posted on: Sep 19, 2020 3:09 PM
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Yes, I have personally confirmed insurance company.

Small Potatoes (NY) - the guy who is traveling from the small city is the cheaper one, not the nearby more established contractor. Sorry if I was unclear.

Brad (IN)and Nhsailmaker (NH): All other bids were in line, in the 6800-10,000 range, including smaller contractor traveling 70 miles (this is a one day job, by the way, so not repeated travel). This one was $15,000 but has his own crew - same guys for many years, he says - and seemed the most knowledgeable. Had the most reviews. I'm just torn.

I wish I could call the guy you use.

It seems too high. I negotiated on the spot and got a few hundred off but that's the best I could do. He doesn't need the work bad enough to be more negotiable but he seems happy enough to do my job in 2-3 weeks. This is a complete replacement of everything. I literally told him my gut reaction was to sign with him on the spot, but the price was just so out of line with the others that I needed to sleep on it.

Maybe I do need more bids. There was a third bid that seemed good to me, and they checked out - but wanted 50% down. I just don't front money.

--68.58.xx.xxx




Which Roofe to Choose? (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Sep 19, 2020 3:27 PM
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On a large important job like a new roof, I'd ask all landlords to obtain a Payment AND Performance Bond. This will guarantee payment was made to suppliers and employee's for their labor AND that the Job will be equal or better to the letter of the contract.

A payment and performance bond is offered by the contractors insurance company. If the contractor has a good rating with little problems, the cost for the bond will be between 2 and 3 percent of the whole deal...estimate/contract price.

A bargain. --47.155.xx.xxx




Which Roofe to Choose? (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Sep 19, 2020 3:43 PM
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I only install metal roofs so you are not in my product line, add the metal over top of the shingles to help dampen any thunderstorm noise from the rain fall. --76.188.xxx.xxx




Which Roofe to Choose? (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Sep 19, 2020 4:43 PM
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With a metal roof the life expectancy is a lot longer. View some video on You tube about metal roofs. --147.194.xxx.xx




Which Roofe to Choose? (by Nancy [IN]) Posted on: Sep 19, 2020 5:49 PM
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I will look into metal. I just don't want it noisy. Is it? It sure is noisy when an acorn hits my new steel cap on top of the chimney. --68.58.xx.xxx




Which Roofe to Choose? (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Sep 19, 2020 9:24 PM
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Metal roofs are bit noisy when it rains if concerned about noise then Roxul batt insulation in the ceilings where noise is suppressed. In Germany for example shingles are not used at all or fiberglass insulation. Disposal building materials over time are more expensive as more frequent replacement. Snow, ice guards are required as ice and snow easily slides off roof. A metal roof is integrated system where flashing, top vents, panels and snow, ice guards are all from the same manufacturer. In the summer the house is much cooler as metal does not get hot like shingles. Rain runs off faster as there is less resistance. In 2004 done roof at house where the house next has gone through three shingle roofs. If the dimensions are known then can visit a building supply store then can price out materials. Three grades which are residential, medium and commercial grade thickness. So can price out. Here the HD, and Lowes both sell metal roof systems. If a basic gable roof then the panels are cut to roofs dimensions. Wood strapping is put down then with special bolts with rubber seals are bolted in. Look at many commercial buildings where more likely to see metal roofs. Once can compare the cost for the difference between shingle and metal as long as do not want a decorative type of metal roof. In town all the roofers wanted repeat business where they only wanted to install the cheap builders line of shingles. Had a roofer who done the metal roofs on apartment buildings 100 km away install a metal roof on the house. Ask people who installed a metal roof if they think it is a good option. Pick up some brochures then view more videos on You tube. Any building people throw in a HVAC system where never look at reducing size by not improving insulation. Metal roofs are lighter as there is no tar base. --147.194.xxx.xx




Which Roofe to Choose? (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Sep 19, 2020 10:54 PM
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I did a roof with a hot mop over the roof (around 90 pounds), then Roofing Tiles. The kind you can walk on if necessary and step in the lower curved section touching the roof. This was going to be a forever roof, to last 40 to 50 years.

But no one told the tenants kids or the next door owner's tree trimming service. They stepped all over the tiles and cracked around 20 of them... I had extra's but was upset because no one has the right to walk on my roof without written permission, as stated in my lease.

--47.155.xx.xxx




Which Roofe to Choose? (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Sep 20, 2020 2:22 AM
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Nancy,

Robin hit it - the high price guy is either gouging you or does not want the job.

We LLs tend to give them little clues about our desperation so they play on this and price goes up. The best salesmen know how to get the highest price.

I’m also reminded of the recent infamous PITA discussion.

Payment: NEVER pay upfront. I will pay for materials myself so they have no out of pocket expense, then pay the labor the day it is complete and clean.

Roofers are some of the worst, most dishonest people.

Idea: call your ins agent and ask for the going rate in your area. They also have satellite imagery to measure your roof within inches.

BRAD --73.102.xxx.xxx




Which Roofe to Choose? (by Bonanza [NC]) Posted on: Sep 20, 2020 8:22 AM
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As a corollary to all this, make sure you get their SS# or TIN via a W-9 so you can send them a 1099 at the end of the year before you pay them.

Roofers, gutter installers, and tree people all seem to look at you like you have 3 heads when you ask about their SS# or TIN for 1099.

--65.188.xxx.xxx




Which Roofe to Choose? (by Nancy [IN]) Posted on: Sep 20, 2020 2:43 PM
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Brad- are you Central Indiana? Any clues?

Expensive guy is unlikely to have read clues from me before he gave me a price. I'm wondering if he miscalculated on the spot, actually.

Or maybe he is just so busy he doesn't want the job. He did come out quickly though and seem to be interested in professional. I did have another guy blow me off, but he gave his clues before he left - he left the bid with me so "I could think about it" when I pressed on needing an insurance Declaration. This expensive guy had his insurance company send me one right away. I really would like to use him but not at that price. Still pondering...if you have someone I should check out in my area, let me know! I know you know your stuff. --68.58.xx.xxx




Which Roofe to Choose? (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Sep 20, 2020 6:44 PM
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I love metal roofs.

They are awesome and last forever.

--24.101.xxx.xx




Which Roofe to Choose? (by JKJ [MA]) Posted on: Sep 20, 2020 7:24 PM
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I agree with Vee metal is the way to go, they last a LOT longer than asphalt shingle, the snow slides right off, and with the underlay’s they have now they aren’t that loud, or go right over the existing shingles if permitted as Vee mentioned. They do cost more, so if cost is an issue and you’re trying to do it on a budget metal might not be for you. --70.20.xx.xx




Which Roofe to Choose? (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Sep 20, 2020 9:23 PM
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If have the dimensions of the roof then can price out materials where then labour can be separated out. If there is one layer shingles then can let shingles stay on roof if there no leaks or structural damage below. A gable room is easy to price out as only two sides where can measure the length and width of the roof. Initially the shingle roof cost less but over a period of thirty years shingles will have to replaced many times over along with severe weather shingles blow off in high winds. If ever sell house then having a metal roof will increase the value of the house. Here in rural locations metal roofs are fifty years old. I found roofers say negative things about metal roofs where they want repeat business as they know metal roofs last many times longer. Most the new houses built here the roofs are deteriorating as the cheap builders line do not last more then seven years.. --147.194.xxx.xx




Which Roofe to Choose? (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Sep 20, 2020 9:57 PM
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Some companies just charge more because of their reputation and because they can.

Think (I assume these are nationwide) Applebees and Anderson windows compared to what a local guy can get you.... not talking about bargain basement window but a decent one ... sometimes 2/3 less.

There is a bathroom / window / door company in my greater area that advertises heavily on television and snail mail. Because they advertise one day turn around on a bathtub/shower, I called them for one of my elderly relatives who didn't want the fuss and muss of the house being torn apart for a week. Big advertiser wanted ... I kid you not ... about $16,000 to remove a bathtub and put in the newer type shower that has just the small lip. I called a local small guy who did take the better part of the week and paid around $5000 including redoing some plumbing, some behind the walls wood, row of ceramic tile because the shower wasn't as wide as the original tub and small bit of electric due to old tub having jets. --72.70.xxx.xxx




Which Roofe to Choose? (by Homer [TX]) Posted on: Sep 20, 2020 11:52 PM
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I pay my roofers $70 a square to remove and replace, including hauling off materials. I purchase materials, usually get 30 year architectural . The materials cost me about 80 a Sq. So I am in at 150 a Sq. So I am looking at $3750 for a 25 Sq roof, which I’ve had dozens done over the years. Typically takes less than a day for removal and replacement. We typically re use the drip edge. --66.169.xxx.xxx




Which Roofe to Choose? (by Sandy [CO]) Posted on: Sep 20, 2020 11:58 PM
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Do check that the contractor has experience with metal roofs. Because if installed improperly it can leak --206.217.xxx.xx




Which Roofe to Choose? (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Sep 21, 2020 12:16 AM
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Nancy,

Columbus.

I am guessing you got the professional salesman, clean clothes, super polite and friendly...he is on commission to get the jobs.

If you are asking about clues, I fed my family on commission sales for 16 years. (commission means no sale = no money!) I trained and learned to "read" my customer by listening for key words about their wants and fears. My job was to play up to those wants and fears when presenting my products and service.

Most normal people do not realize how much info they give to total strangers.

LL says "Thanks for coming. I can't get any contractors to return my calls, let alone show up. The leak is messing up the drywall ceiling and winter is coming. The last guy left me with a mess. Color? I don't know which color I'll have to pick one. Now I don't want anyone touching my prize tulips or making noise and scaring my dog."

She just gave me 7 reasons to increase my price.

BRAD --73.102.xxx.xxx




Which Roofe to Choose? (by Nancy [IN]) Posted on: Sep 21, 2020 12:27 AM
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Brad, thanks, that was helpful.

I didn't say any of those things or anything like it. He wasn't slick. I had several bids in hand already. No leak, none of the other issues and I have selected my shingle already and made that known.

I was trying to make it easy and be prepared for all. --68.58.xx.xxx




Which Roofe to Choose? (by Nancy [IN]) Posted on: Sep 21, 2020 12:28 AM
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Yikes. I wish I lived near you, Homer! --68.58.xx.xxx




Which Roofe to Choose? (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Sep 21, 2020 10:57 AM
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Nancy,keep shopping girl.yourlearnig,part of the experience.............charlie.. --32.214.xxx.xx




Which Roofe to Choose? (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Sep 21, 2020 11:06 AM
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Nancy,maybe time to put on your work clothes and do it yourself........charlie ......there’s really nothing to it.its just a time thing.......... --32.214.xxx.xx




Which Roofe to Choose? (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Sep 21, 2020 11:11 AM
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And the man who made time made plenty of it! --32.214.xxx.xx




Which Roofe to Choose? (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Sep 21, 2020 11:15 AM
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Of course if you are scared of heights could be a different story........charlie --32.214.xxx.xx




Which Roofe to Choose? (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Sep 21, 2020 11:23 AM
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Brad,looks like you went through the mill .................................... charlie --32.214.xxx.xx




Which Roofe to Choose? (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Sep 21, 2020 11:36 AM
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Homer,don’t think I’d worry too much about the drip edge,doesn’t mean a string of beans...........................................charlie......................... --32.214.xxx.xx




Which Roofe to Choose? (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Sep 21, 2020 11:48 AM
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Tar paper or felt,big waste of time,of course you knew that already.charlie... --32.214.xxx.xx




Which Roofe to Choose? (by MJ [PA]) Posted on: Sep 21, 2020 11:51 AM
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If you have a walkable roof meaning less than 6/12 pitch you could pay $100 a square to remove and relay shingles. Deck repair would be extra, here I pau $2 a sq foot plus cost of wood. 1x8 lumber is about $10 a board and an OSB sheet is about $13 which is 4x8. You won't know what you have until they get to that point. If you buy materials than you know you have quality stuff going up on the roof. Don't buy material from home centers. Buy from a roofing supply house like ABC (American builders supply). I use Owens Corning duration series shingles with a nailing strip that has a lifetime warranty (as long as you own the property). I use synthetic underlayment like pro-armor which is plastic not felt. You will need a ridge vent if you have soffit ventilation or turtle vents if you don't. Drip edge is important and it will stop water from going under the roof from the edges. Make sure they use ice and water shield too in your weather it is crucial. The best roofers are the subs that big companies like Home Depot etc use. They have south american crews that are great workers. Word of mouth is much better than online reviews. My costs of material is about $125 a square with ABC. Anyone can buy from them, you don't need an account there. If you are close to Chicago, see if you can hire a licensed roofer authorized to install in Cook county, Illinois. They have a tough exam and licensing process which will ensure you a well trained contractor. Good luck. --76.125.xxx.xxx




Which Roofe to Choose? (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Sep 21, 2020 12:26 PM
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Here in Connecticut, no one uses a tin roof,usually a 30 year Asphalt guaranteed and they’re usual good for 40 and they seldom strip off the old shingles .Go right over them,......................charlie...........of course there are always exceptions................. --32.214.xxx.xx




Which Roofe to Choose? (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Sep 21, 2020 12:37 PM
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For. $2.00 a square the roofing supply company will boom the shingles up on the roof for you,saves a lot of heavy lifting bull work.......................charlie --32.214.xxx.xx




Which Roofe to Choose? (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Sep 21, 2020 12:59 PM
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A friend of mine who was a salesman for different companies I asked him one day why he always wore dark glasses even on days that weren’t sunny His answer surprised me . When he gave a price ,he was able to see their reaction without them seeing him watching them ,if there was little reaction from them ,he would raise his asking price accordingly......................charlie --32.214.xxx.xx



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