She made a lame excuse about ok, when their website was up. And that was the end of it so I know she evidently took offense at my request. Was I out of line? What could she have thought I could possibly use the info against her? It is probably a moot point anyway as their are more people in her family than the other, but she didn't know that. (Unless they are friends & she's seen her post something about it online, IDK) --71.219.xx.xx

Baseboard electric heat is the most expensive way to heat where a poorly insulated building will require more. A high efficiency split heat pump will use half the current for heating and cooling. There are heat pump water heaters which use inside air instead resistant elements to heat water. If a building was super insulated then the building would be net zero which would not require a heating or cooling system as no heat would transferred from inside to outside or vice versa. If natural gas is available then converting out stove, heating and hot water system to natural gas here would cost about third of the cost of electricity. Fiberglass insulation is the worst insulation out there where in the house when a wall is broken out all the insulation is filled with mold then after chalking and spray foaming the heat transfer is reduced all year round. North America compared to Europe buildings consume more energy as insulation is less along with direct fired hot water tanks use more energy. Over time the building envelope can be improved where the building is more energy efficient. In Europe there are no energy consuming top load washing machines at all. --147.194.xxx.xx

I would call the utility company and ask for an average. As the owner/manager, you should be able to get that. --67.43.xxx.xxx

My NJ electric utility will NOT tell me about tenant bills even though I own the premises. Privacy concerns. Okay. Then I asked if they would tell me how many KWH (kilowatthours) a certain unit used and they gladly provided those figures. (?????) I could use that data to forensically recreate bills. --73.215.xxx.xx

The look on the 3 IRS agents as they tried to say my property was vacant for 9 months and I'm making up a story that I had tenants -- thus trying to take illegal deductions. --47.155.xx.xxx

Pat you are not out of place to ask. It's a common question applicants ask when looking at an apt. I will mention the cost in the units w all electric baseboard heat. It's about 130 to 140 /MO in the winter. Sometimes I use this to my advantage if I'm showing, and it's not going well. In general though I just say everyone's different and what past residents have done might not be what you would do. Then I mention the heat has to be on during the winter. --72.10.xxx.xxx

Pat you are not out of place to ask. It's a common question applicants ask when looking at an apt. I will mention the cost in the units w all electric baseboard heat. It's about 130 to 140 /MO in the winter. Sometimes I use this to my advantage if I'm showing, and it's not going well. In general though I just say everyone's different and what past residents have done might not be what you would do. Then I mention the heat has to be on during the winter. --72.10.xxx.xxx

Pat you are not out of place to ask. It's a common question applicants ask when looking at an apt. I will mention the cost in the units w all electric baseboard heat. It's about 130 to 140 /MO in the winter. Sometimes I use this to my advantage if I'm showing, and it's not going well. In general though I just say everyone's different and what past residents have done might not be what you would do. Then I mention the heat has to be on during the winter. --72.10.xxx.xxx

Yeap she thinks you are on to her mischief. Call the utility company for the information if you really are interested. Otherwise I'd keep poking the bear until the extra people are gone. Ask next month about water! --99.203.xx.xxx

In NY national grid won't provide this info to owner of building --72.10.xxx.xxx

Electricity is a consumable and we can't control how much a tenant consumes. SO, I tell them, your bill will be totally up to you. --50.82.xxx.xxx

She did answer me finally, so I thanked her for that. She said her worst bill had been 340.00 a month. Less other times. They have 4 kids so I was surprised that it was not more. The other lady complaining is just wanting to complain. She is making noises about wanting to buy something more affordable with a basement. IOW, she's compelled to leave, has experienced enough drama there of her own making and needs a fresh start hoping things will be better. But it will never get better unless she changes a lot of things. --71.219.xx.xx

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