Move in SMOKER (by Plenty [MO]) Sep 13, 2020 6:57 PM|
Move in SMOKER (by 6x6 [TN]) Sep 13, 2020 7:18 PM
Move in SMOKER (by Mike [TX]) Sep 13, 2020 7:30 PM
Move in SMOKER (by Johnny B. [MA]) Sep 13, 2020 7:36 PM
Move in SMOKER (by plenty [MO]) Sep 13, 2020 7:57 PM
Move in SMOKER (by Shark [MI]) Sep 13, 2020 8:18 PM
Move in SMOKER (by Robert J [CA]) Sep 13, 2020 8:26 PM
Move in SMOKER (by Vee [OH]) Sep 13, 2020 8:29 PM
Move in SMOKER (by RB [MI]) Sep 13, 2020 9:05 PM
Move in SMOKER (by Small potatoes [NY]) Sep 14, 2020 1:00 AM
Move in SMOKER (by Small potatoes [NY]) Sep 14, 2020 1:01 AM
Move in SMOKER (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Sep 14, 2020 11:03 AM
Move in SMOKER (by plenty [MO]) Sep 15, 2020 4:53 PM
Move in SMOKER (by Small potatoes [NY]) Sep 16, 2020 11:32 PM
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Move in SMOKER (by Plenty [MO]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2020 6:57 PM
We own two houses side by side. Class A neighborhood and renters. One house came open and we were there working yesterday. The family in the other house was outside and the husband was SMOKING!!! This is a no smoking house. They are 6 months into a 2 year lease. Otherwise perfect tenants. I wanted to tackle him right there and yank that white stick off his face! I am sure they are getting relaxed now, but it's still a non smoking house. HE wasn't inside and I'm not there to police his bad habit, but pondering if i need to provide paper notice. Going into change the furnace filter this month and will check the house for signs and smells.... last check there were no signs of smoking. I know now that they lie as I would not have put them in the home, which is super new and nice. There is no smoking on the property - that's what my ad said. AND Yes I did a home visit where they lived before move in... no pets. no signs of smoking then and no smell on the peoples either. Would you send notification or just keep an eye on it and visit more often?
Move in SMOKER (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2020 7:18 PM
I wonder if he just started smoking. Probably not but I wonder. I would probably send him a notice as a reminder that it is a no smoking property as to which they agreed and was listed in the ad. Is it also in your lease that there is no smoking on the property? --73.120.xx.xxx
Move in SMOKER (by Mike [TX]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2020 7:30 PM
I would definitely let them know once again that smoking is not allowed on the property. But I can tell you he will not quit. Best you can hope for is he does it outside and not on the porch. If he smokes near the door the smell will get inside. Itís going to come in on him anyway. My properties are non smoking and all my tenants know even if their company gets caught smoking on the property they are out. Non smoking property means just that. No smoking inside or out! --73.166.xxx.xxx
Move in SMOKER (by Johnny B. [MA]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2020 7:36 PM
Are you sure it wasnít vape? They look like smoke when you exhale. That could explain why no smell in house. --24.147.xx.xxx
Move in SMOKER (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2020 7:57 PM
Cigarette for sure. Saw him light it up and hang out the side of his mouth. My ad said No smoking/vapor on property. On application it ask again. --99.203.xx.xx
Move in SMOKER (by Shark [MI]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2020 8:18 PM
I advertise "tenants must be non-smokers" And stipulate no smoking on the premises. Also write into the lease a minimum $250 charge for violation of this. But would I be shocked if someone lied?? Nope. --68.37.xx.xx
Move in SMOKER (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2020 8:26 PM
I try to add onto my new leases a $1000 extra fee for my painter to wash the walls with TSP. Let them dry, then apply 2 coats of a sealing primer designed to cover the stench from the smokers surface pollution.
Everyone says they are non-smokers, 20% are lie and 30% pick back up their old habits. --47.155.xx.xxx
Move in SMOKER (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2020 8:29 PM
I was going to say what Shark above me did, with no penalty it is open season, so when you go do the wipe test remind them that remediation gets added to the next rent cycle (300-350 per room in my area) and you will excuse them from the lease if they packup quick but the damage may already be done - be careful so you can use the deposit for this only after they turn in the keys showing this on the accounting statement, most areas do not allow using the deposit until unit is turned over but some newby housing providers do not follow the business rules very well and grumble when tenants run the place into the ground. --76.188.xxx.xxx
Move in SMOKER (by RB [MI]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2020 9:05 PM
How about your famous advise, "whats your lease say" ?
Move in SMOKER (by Small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Sep 14, 2020 1:00 AM
I have learned that when you see something you have to address it. Not face to face necessarily, but right away. Otherwise it gets easier to say, well next time..
Now realistically what will happen? Saying cure or quit isn't realistic, judge wouldn't evict for that, and smokers don't stop. If they leave it will probably be winter and you have to pay the heat. Does your lease have a penalty? Mine does but I have not had to enforce it, and now in NY it prolly wouldn't stick. So he will know that you know, and it will continue. And you will ratchet up the oversight and life will be a little more stressful. I know, I hate cigarettes too. Do you typically do 2 yr lease?
The catholic charities by me has a smoking campaign and belief me draw up a no smoking plan for my 4 unit. It specifies a designed smoking spot and reiterates that smoking is not otherwise permitted on the property. I did this when I found out a tenant moved in a guest who smoked. It was near the end of the leade and I was evicting anyway. Super frustrating --24.194.xxx.xxx
Move in SMOKER (by Small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Sep 14, 2020 1:01 AM
Did you take a picture? --24.194.xxx.xxx
Move in SMOKER (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Sep 14, 2020 11:03 AM
If your lease and advertising don't say so already, it should read "no smoking in the buildings or on the grounds". That should cover the smoker who thinks it is OK to smoke in the garage or on the back porch.
I also list all the other smoke things that damage: tobacco in any form, no smoking, no vaping, no candles, no incense. --76.178.xx.xx
Move in SMOKER (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Sep 15, 2020 4:53 PM
Yes i know what my lease says, i need to update it for the ACTION on their part == other than MOVE or STOP. No i didn't take a picture, but i sure thought about it!!! Will have to give some thought on if I am sending a letter to stop,,, like anyone ever does. What good does it do? Except keep me busy. I'd like to just be invisible and keep peace. But again I sure don't want my house smoked up, or smelly. Feeling a bit stuck and powerless. --99.203.xx.xxx
Move in SMOKER (by Small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Sep 16, 2020 11:32 PM
The letter creates a paper trail that builds a profile if you require further action. --99.203.xxx.xxx
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