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Covid No Rent (by Jason [NC]) Sep 11, 2020 3:49 PM
       Covid No Rent (by Richard [MI]) Sep 11, 2020 3:54 PM
       Covid No Rent (by WMH [NC]) Sep 11, 2020 4:04 PM
       Covid No Rent (by melinda [MD]) Sep 11, 2020 4:39 PM
       Covid No Rent (by NE [PA]) Sep 11, 2020 4:54 PM
       Covid No Rent (by Still Learning [NH]) Sep 11, 2020 4:57 PM
       Covid No Rent (by GKARL [PA]) Sep 11, 2020 5:28 PM
       Covid No Rent (by myob [GA]) Sep 11, 2020 5:29 PM
       Covid No Rent (by James [TX]) Sep 11, 2020 6:16 PM
       Covid No Rent (by J.R. [OK]) Sep 11, 2020 7:05 PM
       Covid No Rent (by Robert J [CA]) Sep 11, 2020 8:10 PM
       Covid No Rent (by myob [GA]) Sep 12, 2020 10:55 AM
       Covid No Rent (by 6x6 [TN]) Sep 12, 2020 7:20 PM
       Covid No Rent (by Small potatoes [NY]) Sep 12, 2020 7:26 PM
       Covid No Rent (by Vee [OH]) Sep 13, 2020 9:47 AM
       Covid No Rent (by Jeffrey [VA]) Sep 13, 2020 2:17 PM
       Covid No Rent (by myob [GA]) Sep 13, 2020 3:11 PM
       Covid No Rent (by WMH [NC]) Sep 13, 2020 5:53 PM
       Covid No Rent (by Jeffrey [VA]) Sep 13, 2020 7:01 PM
       Covid No Rent (by plenty [MO]) Sep 13, 2020 8:00 PM
       Covid No Rent (by Cat [WI]) Sep 14, 2020 1:21 AM
       Covid No Rent (by Jason [NC]) Sep 14, 2020 2:04 PM
       Covid No Rent (by Jason [NC]) Sep 14, 2020 2:04 PM
       Covid No Rent (by Jane [TX]) Sep 16, 2020 7:51 AM
       Covid No Rent (by Ernest [CA]) Sep 19, 2020 5:59 PM
       Covid No Rent (by Jason [NC]) Sep 19, 2020 6:17 PM

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Covid No Rent (by Jason [NC]) Posted on: Sep 11, 2020 3:49 PM
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Just had half of my tenants not pay this month which is pretty impacting since it's my only income currently. They all stated their hours were cut / they didn't have enough left over from unemployment /covid assistance. Some have also asked to have late fees waved.

Has anyone else been having these issues? If so, how have you been handling them? --70.104.xxx.xx




Covid No Rent (by Richard [MI]) Posted on: Sep 11, 2020 3:54 PM
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Sounds like they are in on this together.

Likely the rest may soon follow when they find it works.

If advise you find another source of income until you can resolve this.

Sorry.

--75.7.xx.xx




Covid No Rent (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Sep 11, 2020 4:04 PM
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Make sure to get them the CDC form. If they fill it out and sign - and have lied - they have officially perjured themselves.

You can't charge late fees RIGHT NOW but they can still accumulate. --50.82.xxx.xxx




Covid No Rent (by melinda [MD]) Posted on: Sep 11, 2020 4:39 PM
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We are in the same situation as you are Jason. We have several residents who are playing that game. Filed on one today with which we have a 4,000$ judgment for nonpayment. This was filed before the moratorium. Don't understand why she is not paying. She get money from disability and she also negotiated the price of the rent when she moved in. I would imagine she got the stimulus money. She is also working. --24.233.xxx.xx




Covid No Rent (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Sep 11, 2020 4:54 PM
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Heed the warning signs from this thread for the future folks. This can happen to anyone of us, but look at the Melinda's tenant. Disability and negotiated rent in the beginning.

I ask that anyone else who posts here that's having trouble right now with this Covid thing and no payment of rent, please let us know the other details about these tenants. --70.44.xxx.xx




Covid No Rent (by Still Learning [NH]) Posted on: Sep 11, 2020 4:57 PM
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You might want legal advice. I haven’t had to dig in too deep, but I believe it is the tenant’s job to “serve” you with the CDC form. If they give it to you, you can not evict. If they have not given it to you, you might be able to evict. --73.17.xx.xxx




Covid No Rent (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Sep 11, 2020 5:28 PM
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Ultimately, these folks are going to be housing challenged. Far tighter screening and m2m is the ticket now. --172.58.xxx.xx




Covid No Rent (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Sep 11, 2020 5:29 PM
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Jason NC don't you hate it when you live under a rock? Pretty much everyone who has rentals has been reading up on this and posting-- you make it sound like you just arrived in town from Jupiter...???

Read the last 2 months post on this and get some ideas of what people are doing and have done to stall this. Have you written to your gov't representatives and president and vice president? Their addresses have been posted several times.

For those who communicate with their tenant as if Millenniums-- well good luck cause this time texts and emails aren't going to get it.

YOU'LL ACTUALLY HAVE TO TALK TO THE TENANTS AND WORK THIS OUT.

Watch the you tube video from REIA from Sept 6 or so. Its long but the whole scenario is played out. There are many things the tenant must do and things the landlord has to do-- and in sequence t keep from violating the law.

I had 2 at the begging of this month. One will be paying 15th-- holding my breath and other waiting for deposit to clear.

Are your courts even open? --99.103.xxx.xxx




Covid No Rent (by James [TX]) Posted on: Sep 11, 2020 6:16 PM
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Called my court for guidance for one who's trying.They were very helpful. Served tenant today. We'll see how it shakes out. --47.185.xxx.xxx




Covid No Rent (by J.R. [OK]) Posted on: Sep 11, 2020 7:05 PM
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It seems that since this has gone on so long, it is now affecting even the really good tenants. My tenants have all been relatively paying well until this month when 4 have filed for assistance and one moved out. And I'm in a state that is pretty much open as usual. But some jobs are dependent on other states, too, and hours are still cut and if someone tests positive, they may not get paid while quarantining. I agree that you should search for help from past postings, as that is why I got on here today. --68.0.xxx.xx




Covid No Rent (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Sep 11, 2020 8:10 PM
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One of my tenants, let's call him the Joker, has a new vehicle, a 2019 Toyota Rav4 with payments of $550 per month. That's not including registration and insurance.

The same guy had a new surfboard and goes to the beach to ride the waves. He is having a pretty good life. Not working, receiving unemployment and has over $100,000 in his retirement accounts.

There is no reason why he shouldn't pay the rent. I reviewed his application and credit reports that I pulled back a year ago when he rented the apartment.

In my State if I harasses a tenant or serve them a notice to pay rent with a threat of eviction, the landlord will be fined $10,000.

So I made an appointment to speak with him in person last Monday. I told him I'm running a special. If he takes a cash advance on his credit card to pay his rent in full, I will pay the cash advance fee's plus three months interest on the card, a total discount up to $50.

The tenant than wrote me a check for his rent less the $50....Both of us are happy...

Had he not given me any indication that he would pay any rent, then I would follow the new guide lines of my State..... and send him an invoice for back due rent, as a record to document the amounts owed -- to be used in court if necessary...

--47.155.xx.xxx




Covid No Rent (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2020 10:55 AM
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Robert watch the REIA video from beginning of Sept. You will get some idea's i'm sure with your experience.

James TX did the tenants-- get the affidavit's to sign and return to court?

These require opening of the books by tenants== bank accounts etc. Proof they applied for aid-- proof they are making effort--BEST EFFORT-- to pay. and not just their say so!

Many pitfalls.

Watch the video and make notes on the affidavit. --99.103.xxx.xxx




Covid No Rent (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2020 7:20 PM
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--73.120.xx.xxx




Covid No Rent (by Small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2020 7:26 PM
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Jason did you ask fur substanciation or just take their word for it? --99.203.xx.xxx




Covid No Rent (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2020 9:47 AM
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I am already doing what GKARL mentioned and air-bnb where the credit card gets dinged for holdovers --76.188.xxx.xxx




Covid No Rent (by Jeffrey [VA]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2020 2:17 PM
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WHH, you do NOT want to initiate giving your residents the CDC form. Still is correct, if the residents have not yet given you the form, you are still able to ask the judge for possession. As of right now in our area, in court, one of the first things the judge ask; have you received the form from your resident? If the answer is no, the judge proceeds to grant possession and judgment. --70.161.xxx.xxx




Covid No Rent (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2020 3:11 PM
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Jeffery great heads up. We had thought - gee just include in lease but no thats not the way to go. It's up to those in the home to bring-- along with proof-- not just "Oh I did do it". There are several things they must document. One is income change, effort made ot get money, is paying what they can, banking info.

Every LL needs to know this for the next several months-- treat it like LL/tenant law.

Some confusion as to who has to supply the form. Only lease signer or adults on the premises? --99.103.xxx.xxx




Covid No Rent (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2020 5:53 PM
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Jeffrey, please explain why NOT give your tenants the form. If they lie on the form, they have committed perjury, no? The form is the same as sworn testimony in court, I thought?

So if they swear to that and it's not true?

Because if you file an eviction, can't you be hit with that big fine?

So confused. --50.82.xxx.xxx




Covid No Rent (by Jeffrey [VA]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2020 7:01 PM
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WMH, my understanding is that you can not be hit with the big fine for filing for eviction IF your resident has not given you the form. Once they give you the form however, if you now still go ahead and proceed to evict the resident, is where the big fine for the landlord can come into play.

So until the form is presented to you, (again I'm sharing with you how it's playing out in my area), judges are treating the case as a normal eviction case. Review that video again by the NREIA with the two attorneys discussing this. I believe they talk about how landlords in some areas are trying to get to the court house before they are presented with the form.

Now once the form is given to you by the resident, at that point is when you may be able to challenge the truthfulness of the statements on the form before the judge. And that presents an entirely different challenge for landlords to overcome in getting a judge to side with the landlord.

So my big point is, before you get to the step of having to challenge whether the resident is truthful in his or her statements, it's far better if you can proceed as normal with your eviction case (which may be able to proceed if the form has not yet brought into play). So surely you don't want to make things more harder for yourself than you have to by starting out providing the form for the resident to give to you.

As you know, I am not an attorney, so anyone with more accurate understanding or who see this actually playing out differently in your state, please we welcome your input. --70.161.xxx.xxx




Covid No Rent (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2020 8:00 PM
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Following

--99.203.xx.xx




Covid No Rent (by Cat [WI]) Posted on: Sep 14, 2020 1:21 AM
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I have been very lucky so far. Out of 14 tenants, only one is a problem. FINALLY got my rent through the WRAP program for over $2000 when tenant finally started paying attention and cooperating when I started the eviction process (before the first no eviction rule started). She drags her feet most of the time.

I am now trying to get her to contact the program again and I think, since she filled out all the paperwork previously, she will only have to call them to let them know she still needs October rent paid. Then if she will apply early for 2021 energy assistance so they can process everything before the WRAP program ends, they will pay part of November rent (so they are paying the maximum of $3000 per tenant.

Most of my tenants are still working or on Social Security in one form or another. Three are low income and on Section 8. No problems with any of them not paying rent. Hope that continues. --173.87.xxx.xxx




Covid No Rent (by Jason [NC]) Posted on: Sep 14, 2020 2:04 PM
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Is the updated video on YouTube or the national REIA website?

And does Mr landlord combine Q and A topics into categories or can you only search by key words and phrases? --70.104.xxx.xx




Covid No Rent (by Jason [NC]) Posted on: Sep 14, 2020 2:04 PM
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Is the updated video on YouTube or the national REIA website?

And does Mr landlord combine Q and A topics into categories or can you only search by key words and phrases? --70.104.xxx.xx




Covid No Rent (by Jane [TX]) Posted on: Sep 16, 2020 7:51 AM
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I think this is the video, going to watch it myself now.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0wx0muHNtM

luckily so far only one of my tenants are behind, I am giving him a 30% off on the rent since he has been with us for years and is a great guy, but who knows what will happen next month. keeping my fingers crossed. Good luck every one!

--70.119.xxx.xxx




Covid No Rent (by Ernest [CA]) Posted on: Sep 19, 2020 5:59 PM
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Sorry to hear that. Everyone has hard times but at the end of the day its a business period. You have to be firm but fair show no favorites. If the apply from unemployment they should have a letter stating how much they will be getting. You should send everyone information your state has to offer.

Now send them a letter showing how much is due with the late fees. Also show how much you are accepting do not include the late fees. Send this threw certified mail. You need to show that you are willing to work with them. Notice I said work with then NOT accept their terms. You want to have everything in writing. Contact a good attorney. You can file for a judgement. If they don't pay you can sell the debt to a collection company they will pay like half or you can wait send them a 1099 around tax time.

Any money owed will be forgiven by you but they will have to claim it as INCOME on their taxes. Example. They owe you 10,000 and the make 20,000 from their job the IRS will calculate their income at 30,000. They will get less back and if they owe the IRS and don't have the money to send they will incurred penalties and interest until they have a zero balance. That is not ideal but you don't want to give them a pass.

You want to show you did everything possible to help and they shoot you the middle finger. --70.93.xxx.xx




Covid No Rent (by Jason [NC]) Posted on: Sep 19, 2020 6:17 PM
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Jane, thanks for the link to the video and everyone else's input. --70.104.xxx.xx



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