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OT 9mm vs .380 (by myob [GA]) Sep 10, 2020 3:27 PM
       OT 9mm vs .380 (by NE [PA]) Sep 10, 2020 3:41 PM
       OT 9mm vs .380 (by DJ [VA]) Sep 10, 2020 3:51 PM
       OT 9mm vs .380 (by Nicole [PA]) Sep 10, 2020 3:52 PM
       OT 9mm vs .380 (by 6x6 [TN]) Sep 10, 2020 3:54 PM
       OT 9mm vs .380 (by 6x6 [TN]) Sep 10, 2020 4:00 PM
       OT 9mm vs .380 (by MikeA [TX]) Sep 10, 2020 4:19 PM
       OT 9mm vs .380 (by myob [GA]) Sep 10, 2020 4:34 PM
       OT 9mm vs .380 (by 6x6 [TN]) Sep 10, 2020 5:06 PM
       OT 9mm vs .380 (by Robert J [CA]) Sep 10, 2020 5:08 PM
       OT 9mm vs .380 (by 6x6 [TN]) Sep 10, 2020 5:12 PM
       OT 9mm vs .380 (by DJ [VA]) Sep 10, 2020 5:55 PM
       OT 9mm vs .380 (by Ken [NY]) Sep 10, 2020 6:04 PM
       OT 9mm vs .380 (by Pmh [TX]) Sep 10, 2020 6:11 PM
       OT 9mm vs .380 (by myob [GA]) Sep 10, 2020 6:13 PM
       OT 9mm vs .380 (by Pmh [TX]) Sep 10, 2020 6:14 PM
       OT 9mm vs .380 (by Pmh [TX]) Sep 10, 2020 6:21 PM
       OT 9mm vs .380 (by Robert J [CA]) Sep 10, 2020 8:54 PM
       OT 9mm vs .380 (by NE [PA]) Sep 10, 2020 9:05 PM
       OT 9mm vs .380 (by Allym [NJ]) Sep 10, 2020 9:07 PM
       OT 9mm vs .380 (by Jim [OH]) Sep 11, 2020 6:58 AM
       OT 9mm vs .380 (by myob [GA]) Sep 11, 2020 8:09 AM
       OT 9mm vs .380 (by don [PA]) Sep 11, 2020 10:53 AM
       OT 9mm vs .380 (by NE [PA]) Sep 11, 2020 11:13 AM
       OT 9mm vs .380 (by 6x6 [TN]) Sep 11, 2020 1:59 PM
       OT 9mm vs .380 (by Bit [IN]) Sep 11, 2020 2:22 PM
       OT 9mm vs .380 (by Pmh [TX]) Sep 11, 2020 5:33 PM
       OT 9mm vs .380 (by myob [GA]) Sep 11, 2020 5:43 PM
       OT 9mm vs .380 (by Pmh [TX]) Sep 11, 2020 5:50 PM
       OT 9mm vs .380 (by RentsDue [MA]) Sep 11, 2020 6:51 PM
       OT 9mm vs .380 (by NE [PA]) Sep 11, 2020 7:22 PM
       OT 9mm vs .380 (by Ken [NY]) Sep 12, 2020 1:40 PM
       OT 9mm vs .380 (by pmh [TX]) Sep 12, 2020 1:52 PM
       OT 9mm vs .380 (by myob [GA]) Sep 12, 2020 3:03 PM
       OT 9mm vs .380 (by 6x6 [TN]) Sep 12, 2020 5:43 PM
       OT 9mm vs .380 (by Ken [NY]) Sep 12, 2020 6:32 PM
       OT 9mm vs .380 (by Allym [NJ]) Sep 13, 2020 5:36 PM
       OT 9mm vs .380 (by 6x6 [TN]) Sep 13, 2020 7:10 PM
       OT 9mm vs .380 (by Barbara [VA]) Sep 13, 2020 7:16 PM
       OT 9mm vs .380 (by JKJ [MA]) Sep 13, 2020 7:57 PM
       OT 9mm vs .380 (by RB [MI]) Sep 13, 2020 9:11 PM
       OT 9mm vs .380 (by Allym [NJ]) Sep 14, 2020 9:13 AM
       OT 9mm vs .380 (by myob [GA]) Sep 14, 2020 5:26 PM
       OT 9mm vs .380 (by Pmh [TX]) Sep 16, 2020 5:41 PM

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OT 9mm vs .380 (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Sep 10, 2020 3:27 PM
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OK so yesterday spent the day looking for more fire power. I had a semi auto .380 six clip. More of a noise maker than a body stopper.

Brought the Glock 17 for the senior manager and CZ75BD for myself. Plenty of ammo for practice.

Never in my wildest thoughts did I see this coming. I was always thinking my bet was the city would move out and expand-- and it has. Wasn't planning on all the bad boys and girls also moving.

No matter who they are-- when there's trouble-- it's from non compliance. The none compliance, in my book anyway, is more due to drugs and being in lala land. I mean I've been tazed 5 different times and each one stopped me in my tracks-- I saw explosions of light. These people- get it 2 or 3 times (same time) and they don't even slow down. How can that be?

--99.103.xxx.xxx




OT 9mm vs .380 (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Sep 10, 2020 3:41 PM
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You ever do drugs? When someone's high they can feel like superman. Amped up on meth or crack and it will take a lot more to stop them than the average person. Then again, the likelihood of being attacked by a sober Joe is a lot less likely. --70.44.xxx.xx




OT 9mm vs .380 (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Sep 10, 2020 3:51 PM
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The Glock 17 is a NICE gun. Used to have one for my paycheck job.

9mm - it's enough to stop someone. Always use hollow points, except for target practice.

You reminded me - I'm overdue to get to the range.

Why have you been tased 5 time?! --70.160.xxx.xxx




OT 9mm vs .380 (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Sep 10, 2020 3:52 PM
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I'm not sure I'd have purchased a gun for an employee. I'm generally not one to be timid about a lot of "what ifs" ... but that would be a big one in today's climate. Being your employee puts you already on the line should the terrible occur = you handing that individual a gun would not be extra ammunition (!) I'd not want to provide a plaintiff/victim (probably criminal) --72.70.xxx.xxx




OT 9mm vs .380 (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Sep 10, 2020 3:54 PM
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Should I ask why you have been tazed 5 times?

That explains a lot, LOL!! Just kidding.

NE is probably right.

I like the 9mm. --73.120.xx.xxx




OT 9mm vs .380 (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Sep 10, 2020 4:00 PM
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Where are you getting ammo right now? --73.120.xx.xxx




OT 9mm vs .380 (by MikeA [TX]) Posted on: Sep 10, 2020 4:19 PM
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NE's right, drugs impair the nervous system so they don't feel things like a normal human being. They just keep on going. Very dangerous because they are out of their mind and can't be stopped with less than lethal measures.

6x6 good question. I ordered 2 cases and the delivery date it out to late November, normally it takes less than 10 days to get it. --64.130.xx.xxx




OT 9mm vs .380 (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Sep 10, 2020 4:34 PM
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5 times with my defibrillator. 4 times was out of calibration once i needed it. Goes directly into The heart-- like those things you see or hear about called paddles and the guy yells CLEAR.

Nicole not to worry. He's the father of my 2 granddaughters and my youngest son. (45)

When I was hit the first time--- lightening bolts were in my eye's-- it was amazing light display. --99.103.xxx.xxx




OT 9mm vs .380 (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Sep 10, 2020 5:06 PM
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That's worse then being tazed I would imagine. Sounds painful. --73.120.xx.xxx




OT 9mm vs .380 (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Sep 10, 2020 5:08 PM
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As a jeweler crooks tried to hold me up, run me off the road and break into my stores/home.

As a real estate investor, I had gangs try to shoot me, rob me and damage my properties.

No matter what someone says, to shoot someone and maybe end their life will haunt you for the rest of your life. You will be sued and someone will try to retaliate against you or someone you love.

The best solution to these types of problems is NOT TO PUT YOUR SELF IN DANGER! Change your hours, don't go at night to meet someone over a rental. Don't accept cash. Ask for a cashier's check or money order. Have a friend or buddy go with you. Don't expect your spouse or child to do a real estate task in a marginal neighborhood.

--47.155.xx.xxx




OT 9mm vs .380 (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Sep 10, 2020 5:12 PM
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Good points Robert J.

The instructor I had said that if you ever have to shoot someone then make sure you kill them or they will sue you. I would bet the family would anyway. --73.120.xx.xxx




OT 9mm vs .380 (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Sep 10, 2020 5:55 PM
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And. as I was trained: If you ever did shoot someone, you only say three things to the police. 1) Arrest him/her 2) I was in fear for my life. 3) I want to talk to a lawyer.

Then shut up! Let the adrenaline subside & get thinking clearly. --70.160.xxx.xxx




OT 9mm vs .380 (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Sep 10, 2020 6:04 PM
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6x6 i just bought 50 rounds of 12 gauge 4 shot today at my local gun/survival store i was surprised at the volume of ammo he had based on what everyone has said lately about everyone being out --104.229.xxx.xxx




OT 9mm vs .380 (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Sep 10, 2020 6:11 PM
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I have M&P 380 & G43x. very difficult to find ammo. plenty of shotgun shells. --107.77.xxx.xxx




OT 9mm vs .380 (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Sep 10, 2020 6:13 PM
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I want my PBA attorney, they tried to kill me and I thought they were going to kill me.

Robert CA yes all those things -- along with run if you can.

its for those times you can't.....

I learned a long long time ago. When it's 2:30 or 3AM in the morning and some loonie toon is breaking in your door-- when you come out f the bedroom to investigate you better have more then your -------- in your hand.

Did I ever tell you about the 2 women on my front porch at 2AM one Halloween? Had their little blankies all snuggled up. How about the guy-- maybe 25 who ran into my garage with an empty gas can? Pretending to look for gas..

6X you have no idea. Do you know that passes to anyone your touching at the time-- yea they forgot that part in the lecture. (think on what i'm saying here) --99.103.xxx.xxx




OT 9mm vs .380 (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Sep 10, 2020 6:14 PM
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m&p is 8 & glock is 10. what do you have myob that is only 6. g17 is 8 (?) --107.77.xxx.xxx




OT 9mm vs .380 (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Sep 10, 2020 6:21 PM
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myob: always best to go out the back door then to be a rambo. but I keep short barrel shotgun under my side of the bed to deal with home intruders who get past the dogs. pistols require targeting. shotguns just need pointed in the general direction....I suppose just a lot more splatter to clean up. --107.77.xxx.xxx




OT 9mm vs .380 (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Sep 10, 2020 8:54 PM
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Years ago I learned from a gunsmith about different loads, rounds and ammunition. Like how many bullets it will take to "stop" someone. Discussed was:

A) a 22 vs a 25

B) a 32 vs a .380

C) a .380 vs a 9 mm

D) a 9 mm vs a 38

E) a 9 mm vs a 45

and so on, you get the picture. From what I remember a 9 mm will do the trick in two shots on average while a .380 can take 3 or more. NOT SURE. But a .380 gun can be very small and easily hidden, while a 9 mm is larger and harder to hide from plain sight. --47.155.xx.xxx




OT 9mm vs .380 (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Sep 10, 2020 9:05 PM
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I'd take a good placed hit with a .22 over a Miss with a .45 any day.

Practice and practice! A .45 will rip right out of your hands if you have no experience. --70.44.xxx.xx




OT 9mm vs .380 (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Sep 10, 2020 9:07 PM
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I'm looking for a shotgun. A tree crew came to my home and one of them was looking around my house and asked how many bedrooms my house had. You know they want to take our homes. --71.104.xx.xxx




OT 9mm vs .380 (by Jim [OH]) Posted on: Sep 11, 2020 6:58 AM
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Home protection? 20 gauge pump shotgun with buckshot and deer slugs. Half and half in the magazine.

Personal? 38 Smith and Wesson Bodyguard with a spare speed reload clip.

If you carry, you must have personal and legal liability insurance of the type to protect you with costs of legal fees and false claims. It is very cheap compared to being on your own when the smoke clears. --184.57.xxx.xx




OT 9mm vs .380 (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Sep 11, 2020 8:09 AM
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Pmh TX-- only someone from TX would catch that number.

I never load (full). Always one less than max to keep the spring "fresh". I know crazy but if I need every round in the 380 or Glock-- hey I'm a goner anyway.

I'm replacing the 380 in my work truck with one of the 9's. Not sure which one yet.

We have a Winchester "HOME DEFENDER" we've had for years and a S&W 357 on my shelf closet.

As a back up have a bushel basket full of rocks!!!! and sling. Worked for David.

On a side note: I lost a .380 recently that was in my brief bag in the floor board of my pick up. Here's how. Although I layed my black brief bag flat on the floor in back before going into h-depot. What I think happened is I have a key fob that when you get close to the truck or touch the handle the locks open. I was halfway in the store and went back to the truck but didn't open the door-- but must have activated the unlock without realizing. That afternoon notice brief was gone. --99.103.xxx.xxx




OT 9mm vs .380 (by don [PA]) Posted on: Sep 11, 2020 10:53 AM
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MYOB--You have a six shot magazine,not a clip --73.141.xxx.xx




OT 9mm vs .380 (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Sep 11, 2020 11:13 AM
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You may want to report that lost .380. If that's used in a crime, it's linked to you. --70.44.xxx.xx




OT 9mm vs .380 (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Sep 11, 2020 1:59 PM
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I have my same Taurus 9mm that I bought when I was in high school. 15 rounds plus one in the chamber.

I still love that gun.

I use to have a 44 magnum revolver 4" barrel. No fun. Traded it. --73.120.xx.xxx




OT 9mm vs .380 (by Bit [IN]) Posted on: Sep 11, 2020 2:22 PM
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Main thing is shot placement and then the quality of the ammo, don't cheap out on carry ammo. I would carry either round but I prefer a 9mm over a .380 for the extra umph and capacity.

Sig makes a really nice P365 that is a sub compact 10 round 9mm. --74.130.xxx.xxx




OT 9mm vs .380 (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Sep 11, 2020 5:33 PM
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as NE says. 22 will kill you dead just as any thing else will kill you. but if I have to shoot I donít want to wait for them to die. 380 & 9mm will do the trick at close quarters. shotgun is best home defense. ALWAYS best to have mindset to go out the back door if able. too many wannabe rambos.. --107.77.xxx.xxx




OT 9mm vs .380 (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Sep 11, 2020 5:43 PM
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NE REALLY-- gEE that taser didn't knock out my brain.

What is with you PA boys-- magazine/clip donPA??

When the ammo comes out of a can next to the gun-- its a magazine to me.

you all seen pulp fiction where they're in the room and the guy comes out of the bath room blasting? all the shots miss the 2 bad guys-- i can see myself as the guy coming out blasting and missing everyone. --99.103.xxx.xxx




OT 9mm vs .380 (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Sep 11, 2020 5:50 PM
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lol myob. is why I have shotgun for home defense. point in general direction & no miss....is a magazine though... --107.77.xxx.xxx




OT 9mm vs .380 (by RentsDue [MA]) Posted on: Sep 11, 2020 6:51 PM
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Problem with a 9mm is that they are harder to conceal. If you want peace, prepare for war. --68.118.xxx.xx




OT 9mm vs .380 (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Sep 11, 2020 7:22 PM
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Keltec sub 2000 gen 3 at home. Several 30 rounders, spartan green flashlight with laser. Along with a few other nerf guns. Just picked up 2 matching Stag Arms tactical 15 nitride for my wife and I. Can't wait for our next date!

Working on 8 perimeter cameras that are hard wired with floodlights. Motion activated sends video right to our cell phones. Early warning stuff. I need my beauty sleep.

The saying goes, your pistol is to buy you time to get to your rifle! Haha. Where's LTD?? --70.44.xxx.xx




OT 9mm vs .380 (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2020 1:40 PM
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NE, my 180 pound St Bernards job is to give me time to get to my shotgun --104.229.xxx.xxx




OT 9mm vs .380 (by pmh [TX]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2020 1:52 PM
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the 18lb pug once chased off a coyote stalking the 80lb pound dog. she is the alarm dog. big dog is attack dog. --72.180.xx.xxx




OT 9mm vs .380 (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2020 3:03 PM
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Your not going to believe what i just got??? Brought it a tar'gue..............

a brank new 2QT Power XL vortex air fryer!!!!!!!!

man oh man life is good. I mean!!!!!

--99.103.xxx.xxx




OT 9mm vs .380 (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2020 5:43 PM
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Ken, that is not a dog. It is a horse. Do you have the barrel around his neck?

I think once the thief sees the horse in the house they will run out of the house.

myob, what does an air fryer have to do with guns?

I had to look it up. I thought it was a new type of gun or something. --73.120.xx.xxx




OT 9mm vs .380 (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2020 6:32 PM
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6x6 yes my stepson got us the whiskey barrels for him and the 136 pound St Bernard puppy,they look real nice with the barrels on at Christmas.I do believe not many guys would break into my house with him here,his bark is real loud --104.229.xxx.xxx




OT 9mm vs .380 (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2020 5:36 PM
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Did ANYONE see what I wrote before it was pulled? Just say yes or no. --71.104.xx.xxx




OT 9mm vs .380 (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2020 7:10 PM
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It is still there. --73.120.xx.xxx




OT 9mm vs .380 (by Barbara [VA]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2020 7:16 PM
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6x6, I believe 2 of her postings were pulled and IMHO they did her a favor. Unless the posts I am thinking about are somewhere else. --68.107.xxx.xxx




OT 9mm vs .380 (by JKJ [MA]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2020 7:57 PM
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Barbara you are correct on both statements, 2 of hers were pulled from this thread, and they did her a favor pulling them.

--70.20.xx.xx




OT 9mm vs .380 (by RB [MI]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2020 9:11 PM
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Stop the favoritism. --199.192.xxx.x




OT 9mm vs .380 (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Sep 14, 2020 9:13 AM
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had good information you needed to know about who is behind the latest home terror movement. Too bad. Follow Dan Bongino. He knows on Twitter. --71.104.xx.xxx




OT 9mm vs .380 (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Sep 14, 2020 5:26 PM
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6x6 I like to throw a curve out there occasionally. Doesn't have a darn thing to do with Clips or Magazines or guns.

6X sometimes we need to break up these threads.

Read my OT climate and see the last reference-- "so where ya gonna go" if your a parrot-head you'll get it. all aglow! --99.103.xxx.xxx




OT 9mm vs .380 (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Sep 16, 2020 5:41 PM
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good point myob on keeping spring fresh. thx for advice. --72.180.xx.xxx



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