Handicap ramp
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Handicap ramp (by John [NY]) Aug 11, 2020 1:23 AM
       Handicap ramp (by Robert J [CA]) Aug 11, 2020 2:50 AM
       Handicap ramp (by Steve [MA]) Aug 11, 2020 9:01 AM
       Handicap ramp (by Allym [NJ]) Aug 11, 2020 10:59 AM
       Handicap ramp (by OPM [OR]) Aug 11, 2020 11:35 AM
       Handicap ramp (by Busy [WI]) Aug 11, 2020 12:20 PM
       Handicap ramp (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Aug 11, 2020 1:38 PM
       Handicap ramp (by 6x6 [TN]) Aug 11, 2020 5:23 PM
       Handicap ramp (by Nellie [ME]) Aug 11, 2020 11:20 PM
       Handicap ramp (by Sisco [MO]) Aug 12, 2020 10:42 AM
       Handicap ramp (by BGP [PA]) Aug 13, 2020 8:59 AM
       Handicap ramp (by 6x6 [TN]) Aug 13, 2020 9:56 AM
       Handicap ramp (by John [NY]) Aug 13, 2020 1:32 PM
       Handicap ramp (by John [NY]) Aug 13, 2020 1:32 PM


Handicap ramp (by John [NY]) Posted on: Aug 11, 2020 1:23 AM
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My tenant has a wheel chair due to needing oxygen sometimes. it weighs 400 lbs and he cant get it up the 4 steps inside the apartment. He wants to install a ramp down the driveway. I made it clear it can't block the front walkway, his door is on the side. He said he needs a letter for his insurance saying its ok. I agreed with restrictions but said I wanted to see what they want to put in. He could use a blanket letter later on to say I gave him permission to do whatever for a ramp. He claims ADA requires a very long ramp. This is a two family built in 1910, where I am living upstairs. I don't believe the ADA applies to residential or older homes. The entrance serves only his apartment on the first floor. The rise is about 36 inches. An overly long ramp will interfere with other walkways. Does anyone know about this subject. Tenants insurance would pay for anything. I would have preferred a lift installed, but I guess he is pushing for a ramp cause it is cheaper.

--70.158.xxx.xx




Handicap ramp (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Aug 11, 2020 2:50 AM
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First if your tenant is playing with words and putting them in your mouth, you need to set things straight. A letter needs to cleanly state, YOU DID NOT GIVE PERMISSION FOR ANYTHING, but agreed to examine a proposal based on your restriction. You will not allow anything to be built until you approved it and get a release from your renters insurance that the owner won't be held liable for any issues due to the ramp! --47.155.xx.xxx




Handicap ramp (by Steve [MA]) Posted on: Aug 11, 2020 9:01 AM
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With a 36" rise you will need 36" for the ramp plus a 5' x 5' level spot at the top & bottom for a landing. Since the ramp is going to be more than 30' long you would also need at least 1 intermediate flat landing. It seems to me as though a lift might be a much better option.

Once he gets to the door how feasible is it to enter in a wheelchair? Also how easy can he get around with a wheelchair once inside?

Make sure that if you decide to allow this that it's built by someone who is licensed & insured. You also want to make sure that when they no longer live there or need it that they are responsible for removing the ramp & restoring your property to like it was before the ramp.

--71.174.xxx.xx




Handicap ramp (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Aug 11, 2020 10:59 AM
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Since you live there I believe you can say NO to anything. Other than that, I have an industrial ramp here that I got put in. I ordered it via phone from Illinois or Ohio, and it was shipped. It has a corrugated surface so it has lots of traction. It's a little short of the distance required but being that it is not permanently attached I got past that restriction. It arrived and I had a contractor install it for my mother. I needed it fast. She became wheelchair bound suddenly. She was begging to go outside and I could not get her out. Unfortunately it arrived a little too late and she had some kind of seizure and was placed on hospice and passed in a few weeks. So industrial ramp is big metal piece that does not look pretty but it works. I would suggest your tenant move to a place with a lower entrance way since you live there. I know there is a law that says they can do anything they need as long as they pay for it. But your building is Owner Occupied and that makes all the difference. --71.104.xx.xxx




Handicap ramp (by OPM [OR]) Posted on: Aug 11, 2020 11:35 AM
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TENANT PAYS FOR RAMP NOT YOU --162.247.xx.xx




Handicap ramp (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Aug 11, 2020 12:20 PM
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I have heard their are agencies that will also help provide these type of ramps, or help advise on construction, or on options. In my city, I would contact an agency called Independence First.

The thing is, if he is an otherwise good tenant, pays rent on time, gets along, that sort of thing, coming up with a solution that works can benefit you in the long run. ( and note, I do not mean that getting a disability makes one a bad tenant when I said otherwise... this may be merely a bump in the road... we’ll all getting older...we’ll all probably need some support or other eventually. ) --70.92.xxx.xxx




Handicap ramp (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Aug 11, 2020 1:38 PM
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John,

This is a common LL situation and should be covered in a proper lease. What does your lease say?

Some basics:

-you must allow REASONABLE accommodations

-you can require a drawing for your approval

-you can require additional deposit to cover the removal of the ramp someday

-you can require a licensed, bonded contractor

-you can require it be built to code

-you can require it not be attached permanently to the building

-Steve MA was right but had a typo. The slope must be no less than 1 foot long for every 1 inch in height. 36" high = 36' long minimum.

-there are tons of agencies who will build this for a res with legit needs. As a former Scoutmaster there are ALWAYS boys looking for Eagle Scout projects like this.

--73.102.xxx.xxx




Handicap ramp (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Aug 11, 2020 5:23 PM
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Brad & Busy,

Although I agree that there are organizations and even church groups that will do this, I am thinking that they are usually volunteers and usually kids and have no experience and are not licensed and insured. In this situation I think it should be done by licensed and insured professionals in the field because of liability reasons.

My mother, over the years, has had a lot of things done by organizations with kid volunteers and it shows. Although it is very nice of them to help, sometimes things are worse when there done. --73.120.xx.xxx




Handicap ramp (by Nellie [ME]) Posted on: Aug 11, 2020 11:20 PM
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Sounds like part of the problem is the amount of space the ramp is going to take up. Is there even enough space on the lot for the ramp? And how much will it interfere with the owner’s use of his own yard? If it infringed on my enjoyment of my own yard I would not be pleased. But even owner occupied I am not sure that he could deny the request. Best check with the ADA people. --71.161.xxx.xxx




Handicap ramp (by Sisco [MO]) Posted on: Aug 12, 2020 10:42 AM
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Building a 36' code compliant ramp so as not to block walkway will involve a few landings and switchbacks. Also, it will be a challenge to keep grass trimmed around it.

Rough estimate from across the country $8,000. I would be reluctant to spend the money to accommodate a resident who likely won't be living in your house much longer. --67.43.xxx.xxx




Handicap ramp (by BGP [PA]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2020 8:59 AM
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I am both a landlord and involved with Disability community as my daughter is disabled and has a service dog and wheelchair. This falls under Federal Fair Housing Act - Disability section, and NY may even have additional requirements.

www.hud.gov/program_offices/fair_housing_equal_opp/disability_main

PS - it is beneficial for all landlords proactively familiarize themselves with this. The downside can be significant. I have had phishing at 2 of my properties requesting ramps where it would be particularly difficult to install them. --73.81.xx.xx




Handicap ramp (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2020 9:56 AM
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Thank you for sharing the link BGP. --73.120.xx.xxx




Handicap ramp (by John [NY]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2020 1:32 PM
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It would be my preference to have a lift instead of the ramp which will take up too much space, block other walkways. Tenant seems to keep pushing for a ramp under the assumption it is cheaper. If it is $8000 I doubt it would be less expensive than a lift.

--67.241.x.xxx




Handicap ramp (by John [NY]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2020 1:32 PM
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It would be my preference to have a lift instead of the ramp which will take up too much space, block other walkways. Tenant seems to keep pushing for a ramp under the assumption it is cheaper. If it is $8000 I doubt it would be less expensive than a lift.

--67.241.x.xxx





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