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car break ins (by LL [TX]) Aug 8, 2020 10:57 AM
       car break ins (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Aug 8, 2020 11:13 AM
       car break ins (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Aug 8, 2020 11:15 AM
       car break ins (by bee [NH]) Aug 8, 2020 11:34 AM
       car break ins (by MC [PA]) Aug 8, 2020 11:54 AM
       car break ins (by JR [ME]) Aug 8, 2020 12:12 PM
       car break ins (by Pmh [TX]) Aug 8, 2020 12:37 PM
       car break ins (by Deanna [TX]) Aug 8, 2020 12:39 PM
       car break ins (by Richard [MI]) Aug 8, 2020 12:40 PM
       car break ins (by WMH [NC]) Aug 8, 2020 12:53 PM
       car break ins (by Pmh [TX]) Aug 8, 2020 1:00 PM
       car break ins (by Robert J [CA]) Aug 8, 2020 1:40 PM
       car break ins (by Deanna [TX]) Aug 8, 2020 1:53 PM
       car break ins (by myob [GA]) Aug 8, 2020 1:55 PM
       car break ins (by Allym [NJ]) Aug 8, 2020 2:14 PM
       car break ins (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Aug 8, 2020 7:14 PM
       car break ins (by MikeA [TX]) Aug 8, 2020 9:15 PM
       car break ins (by Hollis [MA]) Aug 9, 2020 12:55 PM
       car break ins (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Aug 9, 2020 2:46 PM
       car break ins (by 6x6 [TN]) Aug 9, 2020 4:29 PM
       car break ins (by Pmh [TX]) Aug 11, 2020 7:21 PM
       car break ins (by JKJ [MA]) Aug 11, 2020 9:25 PM


car break ins (by LL [TX]) Posted on: Aug 8, 2020 10:57 AM
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I have a 80 unit 2yr old townhome complex. don't have any garages. built with dark sky lighting (lampost lighting shines downward) so parking lot is pretty dim. last three weeks multiple tenants had their car broken into. no evidence of forced entry and no broken windows. I think thieves are somehow stealing the wireless signal from the key fob, has anyone heard of this & how to prevent?

--70.158.xxx.xx




car break ins (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Aug 8, 2020 11:13 AM
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I suspect that bright lighting doesn't stop thieves any more. Everyone knows that when you call the cops, they take their time arriving, or else don't arrive at all.

I've lived places where you aren't allowed to have bright lights, but if that isn't a problem for you, maybe you could switch to LED lighting which can be quite bright. I suspect it won't make any difference.

Send a notice around reminding tenants to lock their cars and to never leave anything valuable in them.

I think it is a very good chance that the thieves are getting into unlocked cars, not that they are stealing door codes. If they are stealing door codes, they must hang around in the parking lot and wouldn't someone notice a stranger who is always hanging around in the parking lot? --98.146.xxx.xxx




car break ins (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Aug 8, 2020 11:15 AM
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This is a separate issue but, myself, I would try to have enough light so the tenants didn't trip and sue me for their injuries because the area was under-lit. --98.146.xxx.xxx




car break ins (by bee [NH]) Posted on: Aug 8, 2020 11:34 AM
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A modern version of the old wire coat-hanger is very effective, cheap and pretty easy to learn how to use.

Bright lights make no difference at 3am when everyone is sleeping. And they make it easier to see the laptop that was left in the car because it was too inconvenient to take it indoors.

RFID sniffers are pretty easy to buy/build if you know where to look

Have your tenants report all thefts to the Police.

Advise everyone that it is good practice to remove all valuables from their vehicles.

Search Google for 'no valuables left in this vehicle' to get signage ideas for car windows and parking areas.

--98.229.xxx.xx




car break ins (by MC [PA]) Posted on: Aug 8, 2020 11:54 AM
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Are their cars locked? If someone wants in, they will still get in. Or are they saying someone stole the signal for insurance? --73.230.xxx.xx




car break ins (by JR [ME]) Posted on: Aug 8, 2020 12:12 PM
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99% chance the owners are not locking their doors. Stealing codes isn’t that easy to do for meth-head petty criminals. --174.196.xxx.xxx




car break ins (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Aug 8, 2020 12:37 PM
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intercepting the key fob signal is a common method for car thieves. is up to car owner to find a way to secure the signal. I would suggest however change in lighting. --107.85.xxx.xx




car break ins (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Aug 8, 2020 12:39 PM
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My parents lived on the outskirts of the country. I was home from college one year, and left my favorite pair of ankle boots in my vehicle. Sure enough, someone got into the car and stole my shoes. I suspect it was the neighbor across the street's older son, but of course, I had no proof. But ever since then, I've been obsessive about locking my car door, even when I'm coming right back to it in ten seconds.

There were a few waves of car break-ins in my town over the last few years. Sometimes it's been out-of-towners, but more often, it's local juvenile delinquents. Almost every car "broken into" was actually left unlocked--- these people just go through the driveways, trying door handles, and grabbing whatever's easiest to get, and then moving on. Occasionally, they'll find a gun in someone's glove compartment, but more often, it's purses/wallets/money.

It's not just at night. There's one juvie in particular I know about who sits in his front window, and looks for cars to park on the street near his house. When the person goes inside, he'll dash out to see if he can grab something off the front seat, especially if windows are rolled down in the summer. That particular juvie isn't so juvie anymore... he keeps pulling the shenanigans he could get away with when he was 16 or 17, but now that he's 18, he's getting treated as an adult...

But yeah. It's not right for anyone to steal--- but in the majority of cases, the victims didn't make it difficult for dishonest people to be dishonest. --96.46.xxx.xx




car break ins (by Richard [MI]) Posted on: Aug 8, 2020 12:40 PM
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Thieves like this will be back. Stake it out. It should not take long to catch them.

Had any new tenants lately with teenage kids?

Any "bad" type people?

Odds are your thieves live in the complex. --97.95.x.xxx




car break ins (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Aug 8, 2020 12:53 PM
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Very common over on the beach. Between local kids opening unlocked car doors parked in the big tourist homes' driveways and bored tourist kids roaming about at night, it's a big problem.

The local cops have posted on Facebook about having a 9pm routine: REMOVE VALUABLES and LOCK YOUR CAR.

People leave loaded GUNS in their cars, are they crazy? --50.82.xxx.xxx




car break ins (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Aug 8, 2020 1:00 PM
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anyone who would leave a gun in their car is someone who should not be allowed to own....and I say that as a gun owner. --107.85.xxx.xx




car break ins (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Aug 8, 2020 1:40 PM
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I have a 10 unit on the corner of two alley's with the same problem. I had the following choices:

a) Install automatic security rolling gates, cost $35,000 to $50,000.

b) Install security cameras, motion activated with also more parking area lighting. Cost $3,500.

c) Hire an armed security firm to do 3 patrols per night and make any private person arrests, for $2000 a month.

What did I do?

I installed limited parking spots with automatic security sliding gate. Tenants that wished to pay $100 a month for a secure spot, got one of those spots.

I installed automatic lighting an more camera's.

I paid a security firm to patrol the garage area only 2 times per night, for $1,000 a month.

--47.155.xx.xxx




car break ins (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Aug 8, 2020 1:53 PM
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PMH and WMH... I have a CCL as well, and I heartily agree. --96.46.xxx.xx




car break ins (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Aug 8, 2020 1:55 PM
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It's called a relay machine. A co-conspirator gets close to where the real key is-- like outside your home windows or doors. Once he gets the FOB code he sends it from the relay machine to the other person by the vehicle. Google it-- it was shown on a security camera exactly how its done.

with 80 units why not try a security company that does random patrols? let it be known. --99.103.xxx.xxx




car break ins (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Aug 8, 2020 2:14 PM
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Well, the local cops here say that this is seasonal when kids are returning to school. Cop said they need money for stuff the parent won't or can't pay for. So the doors are generally unlocked but they could have one of those squeeze bulbs that tow trucks carry to force the door open just enough to slide in a device to press a button or pull a handle. It's very fast. So why don't people get also a traditional alarm put on the car that doesn't work off the FOB also? One that will make a loud noise if the door is opened? I like the idea of "dark sky" lights. We can't even see the brightest stars here but the planets do show through. It's just blank and the moon. --71.104.xx.xxx




car break ins (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Posted on: Aug 8, 2020 7:14 PM
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Yes, it's possible to copy a remote key, but it takes skill and equipment and they have to be around the key when it transmits and cypher the code.

If you're going to go to that much trouble, you're going to steal the car.

What I find more likely is that they left their cars unlocked. We had one in our neighborhood. Always chose unlocked cars. Plenty to choose from surprisingly. You might want to install a camera looking over the parking lot. If it has IR light, lighting won't matter. Maybe hang a camera on each side of the parking lot. But first, I'd mention the value of locking their cars. --108.69.xxx.xxx




car break ins (by MikeA [TX]) Posted on: Aug 8, 2020 9:15 PM
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There are a hundred ways to get into a car without a key.

Do a google search for "tennis ball car unlock" as one example.

If the bad guys want to get in they will. Pass the word through to the tenants not to leave any valuables in their car. Request Police do more turns in the block. Install lighting and security cameras. Hire a security monitoring service. All good things, but frankly, at best moderately effective.

One other relatively cheap deterrent is a motion tracking spot light, they replace a standard outdoor fixture. There are several brands of these (GE and Defiant are a couple). They are motion activated, turning on a spotlight and moving to where the motion is to keep the intruder in the spotlight. It is quite an eerie feeling if you have ever walked around where one of these is installed. You think someone is watching you. They are only good to about 50-60 feet though. --64.130.xx.xxx




car break ins (by Hollis [MA]) Posted on: Aug 9, 2020 12:55 PM
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"Uta" be an occasional problem with several of our properties.

Installed motion sensitive flood with Set to stay on several minutes,..150 equivalent LEDs (Low power usage)and they last and last generally years,.

Seems like MOST bad guys get real nervous sneaking up to a car and the bright lights come on.....even if they know its motion sensitive,..they don't know who is watching.

In one I put a screw in outlet into the bulb receptacles and ran a zip cord to two other lights from a different direction,

Note the area was protected from rain and water,

Any good electrician could easily hook up same to not be in a dry area,..

May not work with total meth/crack heads,..but for most thieves it seems too.

Did this years ago to our boatclub house that kept getting broken into,.club members balked at the cost of a real alarm.so I set up a motion light and same screw in outlets,..only this time the lights were away from the motion light (so a bit harder to find the prime unit) and the other receptacle also had a screw in outlet,and a zip cord to a loud tag sale radio tuned in to a 24 hour station also away from the prime unit. .

We could see attempts to get in,..but nothing was ever. Did the same to my tool shed.

Complaints from a few boatclub members that it scared the liver out of them when they came in and forgot about it. --66.30.xx.xxx




car break ins (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Aug 9, 2020 2:46 PM
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LL,

Interesting.

My Millennial offspring do not feel it is necessary to lock their cars so MY first reaction is unlocked cars.

But if it was unlocked how do they know it was "broken into" other than something of value missing?

MY concern is the mental comfort of your residents. I think you need to do "something" to show you care. If not folks will leave fearing for their safety.

Motion lights, cameras from Sam's club, letter reminding everyone to use the normal safety rules Yo Mama taught but not set up fear that your complex is riddled with crime - look around and be aware, remove EVERYTHING from sight, lock your doors...neither will stop thieves but will make you look good as a manager.

BRAD

--73.102.xxx.xxx




car break ins (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Aug 9, 2020 4:29 PM
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Start a neighborhood watch group. --73.120.xx.xxx




car break ins (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Aug 11, 2020 7:21 PM
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I never lock my doors. nothing inside worthwhile to steal & saves me the cost of replacing glass... --107.77.xxx.xxx




car break ins (by JKJ [MA]) Posted on: Aug 11, 2020 9:25 PM
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I don’t think a petty thief that’s rummaging through cars is going to put in the time, money, and effort to steal wireless signal from key fobs. They probably aren’t locking their doors, or the thief is good at slimjiming the doors. Get better lighting, and remind them to lock their doors. --70.20.xx.xx





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