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Outraged neighbor (by J [FL]) Aug 6, 2020 6:26 PM
       Outraged neighbor (by Ken [NY]) Aug 6, 2020 6:39 PM
       Outraged neighbor (by J [FL]) Aug 6, 2020 6:41 PM
       Outraged neighbor (by Allym [NJ]) Aug 6, 2020 7:10 PM
       Outraged neighbor (by J [FL]) Aug 6, 2020 7:18 PM
       Outraged neighbor (by Smokowna [MD]) Aug 6, 2020 7:27 PM
       Outraged neighbor (by J [FL]) Aug 6, 2020 7:35 PM
       Outraged neighbor (by J [FL]) Aug 6, 2020 7:35 PM
       Outraged neighbor (by LisaFL [FL]) Aug 6, 2020 7:48 PM
       Outraged neighbor (by J [FL]) Aug 6, 2020 7:58 PM
       Outraged neighbor (by JB [OR]) Aug 6, 2020 10:42 PM
       Outraged neighbor (by small potatoes [NY]) Aug 7, 2020 12:34 AM
       Outraged neighbor (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Aug 7, 2020 1:11 AM
       Outraged neighbor (by J [FL]) Aug 7, 2020 5:16 AM
       Outraged neighbor (by myob [GA]) Aug 7, 2020 6:43 AM
       Outraged neighbor (by 6x6 [TN]) Aug 7, 2020 10:08 AM
       Outraged neighbor (by Nicole [PA]) Aug 7, 2020 10:09 AM
       Outraged neighbor (by DJ [VA]) Aug 7, 2020 11:11 AM
       Outraged neighbor (by Nicole [PA]) Aug 7, 2020 12:30 PM
       Outraged neighbor (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Aug 7, 2020 1:06 PM
       Outraged neighbor (by J [FL]) Aug 7, 2020 2:04 PM
       Outraged neighbor (by JB [OR]) Aug 7, 2020 3:12 PM
       Outraged neighbor (by myob [GA]) Aug 7, 2020 5:08 PM
       Outraged neighbor (by Cjoh [CT]) Aug 7, 2020 8:06 PM
       Outraged neighbor (by J [FL]) Aug 7, 2020 8:07 PM
       Outraged neighbor (by J [FL]) Aug 7, 2020 8:07 PM
       Outraged neighbor (by Cjoh [CT]) Aug 7, 2020 8:25 PM
       Outraged neighbor (by Cjoh [CT]) Aug 7, 2020 8:30 PM
       Outraged neighbor (by J [FL]) Aug 7, 2020 8:32 PM
       Outraged neighbor (by BGP [PA]) Aug 8, 2020 12:15 AM
       Outraged neighbor (by J [FL]) Aug 8, 2020 2:21 AM
       Outraged neighbor (by J [FL]) Aug 8, 2020 2:21 AM
       Outraged neighbor (by Nicole [PA]) Aug 8, 2020 9:18 AM
       Outraged neighbor (by J [FL]) Aug 8, 2020 9:23 AM
       Outraged neighbor (by 6x6 [TN]) Aug 8, 2020 9:04 PM
       Outraged neighbor (by Busy [WI]) Aug 9, 2020 1:48 PM
       Outraged neighbor (by Sir Walter [NC]) Aug 9, 2020 10:26 PM
       Outraged neighbor (by J [FL]) Aug 10, 2020 11:19 AM
       Outraged neighbor (by Cjoh [CT]) Aug 10, 2020 9:42 PM
       Outraged neighbor (by J [FL]) Aug 11, 2020 5:55 AM
       Outraged neighbor (by CJOH [CT]) Aug 15, 2020 6:52 PM
       Outraged neighbor (by SHAUN [FL]) Aug 16, 2020 9:39 AM
       Outraged neighbor (by J [FL]) Aug 16, 2020 9:53 AM
       Outraged neighbor (by pete [OR]) Aug 19, 2020 8:21 PM
       Outraged neighbor (by Robert J [CA]) Aug 25, 2020 3:31 AM
       Outraged neighbor (by Cjoh [CT]) Sep 20, 2020 2:21 AM

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Outraged neighbor (by J [FL]) Posted on: Aug 6, 2020 6:26 PM
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I've owned this rental house about ten years and these other people bought the house next door about three years ago.

The man doesn't speak a lot of English but I knew he was upset about the stray cat my ex-tenants were feeding. I bought a cat carrier a couple months ago and got rid of the cat.

Then he was upset about a small tree in my backyard whose branches were touching the top of his fence and he wanted me to trim the tree. Normally I would think that would be his responsibility but I went ahead and did it to smooth things out with him.

Then today I was working on building a new gate and he comes over SHOUTING and gesticulating. I found out he's in a fury because I put the old gate on the grass strip between the sidewalk and the street (tomorrow is bulk trash pick up day) and the gate is lying right on the invisible "line" between the two houses.

What do you think about this behavior? Was I in the wrong in some way? I'm perplexed by the whole situation.

--70.158.xxx.xx




Outraged neighbor (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Aug 6, 2020 6:39 PM
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He sounds like a pita neighbor,i would just ignore him. his life probably sucks due to no fault of yours --104.229.xxx.xxx




Outraged neighbor (by J [FL]) Posted on: Aug 6, 2020 6:41 PM
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I am going to steer clear of him. Maybe he is under COVID stress?

The funny thing is this is *not* a nice neighborhood and if I (or anyone I rent to) is his idea of a difficult neighbor in this hood he has a very rude awakening coming. --72.188.xxx.xxx




Outraged neighbor (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Aug 6, 2020 7:10 PM
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Are you female? I get male next door renters, owners whatever pushing me around all the time about this or that. If you are female he might be trying to get your attention in the strange way that some men try pain to get positive attention. Like Romney throwing a stone at his future wife while she was riding her horse. That's from an intro letter SHE sent out.

Other than that, I have had people of a different race just keep attacking over stuff like that. If none of these are the answer then he is just some nut that likes to fight with people. --71.104.xx.xxx




Outraged neighbor (by J [FL]) Posted on: Aug 6, 2020 7:18 PM
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Ally I'm a guy.

I thought this might be reverse racism but I pretty much got the vibe that he hates my ex-tenants too, and both he and they are Hispanic, so I don't think it's that. --72.188.xxx.xxx




Outraged neighbor (by Smokowna [MD]) Posted on: Aug 6, 2020 7:27 PM
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More and more people are behaving this way. I would ignore the neighbor. Too bad for the neighbor, he had a wonderful chance to meet you and learn from you.

Leave him to whatever pathetic existence he has made for himself.

--108.28.xx.xxx




Outraged neighbor (by J [FL]) Posted on: Aug 6, 2020 7:35 PM
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Smokowna

I think he is being stupid because I'm not planning to sell and he is going to have to deal with me and my tenants one way or another.

He also wears a mask while walking around in the neighborhood (outside). I'm "pro mask" but this behavior is over the top to me. --72.188.xxx.xxx




Outraged neighbor (by J [FL]) Posted on: Aug 6, 2020 7:35 PM
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Smokowna

I think he is being stupid because I'm not planning to sell and he is going to have to deal with me and my tenants one way or another.

He also wears a mask while walking around in the neighborhood (outside). I'm "pro mask" but this behavior is over the top to me. --72.188.xxx.xxx




Outraged neighbor (by LisaFL [FL]) Posted on: Aug 6, 2020 7:48 PM
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Tell him you will consider addressing his petty complaints only if he puts them in writing. Although Id probably just tell him to take his petty complaints somewhere else because I dont have time for them. --216.186.xxx.xx




Outraged neighbor (by J [FL]) Posted on: Aug 6, 2020 7:58 PM
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Unless he apologizes I'm done with him. He's just rude.

I was open to being friendly with him since on the other side of my house I have the druggies/pitbull owners and it's a constant balance of trying to stay on good terms with them without letting them run all over me...it would have been good to know someone else in this neighborhood. But not if he's going to act like that. --72.188.xxx.xxx




Outraged neighbor (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Aug 6, 2020 10:42 PM
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J, sounds like a good house to sell. --73.25.xx.xxx




Outraged neighbor (by small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Aug 7, 2020 12:34 AM
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It can be tough with a cranky neighbor. Next to one property the neighbor is always quick to yell about my truck being in front of her driveway when I'm unloading. Never liked the way previous tenant cut the grass on that side, so the tenant stopped mowing. I do my best to ignore and give them a wide berth. Yet I still brought over a package that was delivered to my rental. That nice gesture caught her off guard and she was speechless. Maybe w/ your neighbor you will find that moment and he will realize you are not the bad guy. --24.194.xxx.xxx




Outraged neighbor (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Aug 7, 2020 1:11 AM
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J,

I'll be a little more "direct". You might not like my answer.

A wise person taught to reverse the circumstances and see how I would feel.

HIS cat, HIS tree, HIS trash...

Cat: yes, your tenants = your fault.

Tree: That was a reasonable request. Nothing to get upset about. I would ask the neighbor to trim THEIR tree off my fence. If he trimmed it you might be writng about how he trimmed your tree without your permission.

Gate: be a better neighbor. You knew it was close to his property when you dropped it. Is there a chance you were being passive aggressive?

Just say sorry and move it.

I have neighbors on both sides that do not respect property lines. It's annoying but they are nice people and I have bigger fish to fry.

Jesus said the greatest commandment is to treat others as you want to be treated.

A little respect, even if uneven, goes a long way.

BRAD

--73.102.xxx.xxx




Outraged neighbor (by J [FL]) Posted on: Aug 7, 2020 5:16 AM
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It wasn't passive aggressive. When I put the garbage and recycling closer to my area, an individual parked their car behind the cans and instead of moving the cans a bit he left the car half blocking my driveway. --72.188.xxx.xxx




Outraged neighbor (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Aug 7, 2020 6:43 AM
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Gosh was it a full moon or something? 3 houses ago a neighbor came over complaining about an old stove I left at the curb. She said we don't do that around here!!!! I said people make money picking up metal and need the cash as part of income. She went ballistic then next day when i place a metal BBQ grill by the stove. She called code enforcement after confronting me again.

I told her it's the way I DO THINGS and she wasn't going to bully me. This is my neighborhood. Not her's. Told her she was a complainer and to just stay off my property--

Sometimes ya gotta fire back... call someone who gives a s*****! --99.103.xxx.xxx




Outraged neighbor (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Aug 7, 2020 10:08 AM
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He sounds OCD. I get that. I however would have just trimmed the tree off of my fence. The cat wasn't his fault and maybe he didn't know how to deal with it. If he is from another country then he may not realize that the bulk trash gets picked up by the city.

Have you ever explained any of this to him?

He could be stressed as well seeing how as he wares a mask outside even with nobody near. --73.120.xx.xxx




Outraged neighbor (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Aug 7, 2020 10:09 AM
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reading through I was perplexed by the answers until Brad.

I would be mad about the cat too - he could have removed it but it was an issue because of you (through your tenants).

Tree limbs? Sorry but I'm usually odd man out here on this site. I keep my trees trimmed so they don't encroach on neighbors properties and the few times they cause an issue, I take care of it. Legally right and morally right are different issues.

The gate? yeah, he probably overreacted. --72.70.xxx.xxx




Outraged neighbor (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Aug 7, 2020 11:11 AM
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Perhaps when he comes out, you can say to him "Hablo ingles", over & over & over, until he goes in the house and brings out someone to translate.

Or perhaps you have a friend who could translate?

Or try google translator. It's not perfect, but worked well enough to help me kind of communicate with some contractors recently.

Only then can you try to communicate - explain to him nicely that you mean no harm, who you are, what you are doing & and want to be friendly neighbors, etc --70.160.xxx.xxx




Outraged neighbor (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Aug 7, 2020 12:30 PM
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my head is about to explode !!!!! I need to keep reading to see what actually comes next. --72.70.xxx.xxx




Outraged neighbor (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Aug 7, 2020 1:06 PM
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I'm siding with your neighbor. He is territorial about his property, but it is, after all, his property and not yours to place your trash on.

You know he is going to defend his property rights, so just keep your stuff off of his property and you will have fewer problems.

I keep my trees and shrubs trimmed off of the neighbor's fences so that they don't damage the fence. It was his right to have the branches removed and it was actually more polite to go to you first. Tell him he has permission to cut any branches that are over the property line. --98.146.xxx.xxx




Outraged neighbor (by J [FL]) Posted on: Aug 7, 2020 2:04 PM
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Ally I don't think the ethnicity is a factor. The neighborhood is mostly Hispanic (I've owned two homes on this street -- sold one of them). I've never had a problem with anyone else there, just this guy.

For the record, I did not dump anything on his property. It was on the grass strip which I believe the county owns. And it wasn't even placed directly in front of his house. He's aware of the bulk trash pick up because he puts stuff out there every week for that. --72.188.xxx.xxx




Outraged neighbor (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Aug 7, 2020 3:12 PM
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I heard that he mentioned that if they don't vote for him then they ain't Hispanic! --73.25.xx.xxx




Outraged neighbor (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Aug 7, 2020 5:08 PM
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Alley that's like saying white people from Bedstiverson are the same as white potato farmers out on east LI!!!!!

I'm sorry I just had tooooooooo. --99.103.xxx.xxx




Outraged neighbor (by Cjoh [CT]) Posted on: Aug 7, 2020 8:06 PM
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J,Do like what I do when I get a phone call and I think it may be a telemarketer,I say Bonjour ,Bonjour,Jem Appel MonsieurCharlee,Com mantel Allevous,they usually dont know what to say,Of course if they answered in French,I probably wouldnt know what to say either,but it hasnt happened so far....................... ......... .....charlie................? ? ? --32.214.xxx.xx




Outraged neighbor (by J [FL]) Posted on: Aug 7, 2020 8:07 PM
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It's probably best to stay off the racial and political stuff, so this thread doesn't become a dumpster fire. --72.188.xxx.xxx




Outraged neighbor (by J [FL]) Posted on: Aug 7, 2020 8:07 PM
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It's probably best to stay off the racial and political stuff, so this thread doesn't become a dumpster fire. --72.188.xxx.xxx




Outraged neighbor (by Cjoh [CT]) Posted on: Aug 7, 2020 8:25 PM
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J,we could blame Biden anyhow just to be on the safe side,.........charlie.... --32.214.xxx.xx




Outraged neighbor (by Cjoh [CT]) Posted on: Aug 7, 2020 8:30 PM
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J,or it could be hes just another lousy foreigner................,......charlie........well couldnt it! ? ? --32.214.xxx.xx




Outraged neighbor (by J [FL]) Posted on: Aug 7, 2020 8:32 PM
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I don't think he's a foreigner...I believe he's from Puerto Rico. --72.188.xxx.xxx




Outraged neighbor (by BGP [PA]) Posted on: Aug 8, 2020 12:15 AM
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Suggest re-reading Brad 20000. You may not always have these tenants or these issues but you may always have this neighbor. --73.81.xx.xx




Outraged neighbor (by J [FL]) Posted on: Aug 8, 2020 2:21 AM
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My only concession to him is holding my tongue the next time he lashes out, and not putting my bulk trash near the invisible "line" on city property in the future. He isn't nice now -- at all -- after I got rid of the cat and worked on the tree so I don't see what I gain by doing more things for him.

To really do a good job on the tree I would need to be physically be in his backyard, so it's better that he just do that himself. --72.188.xxx.xxx




Outraged neighbor (by J [FL]) Posted on: Aug 8, 2020 2:21 AM
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My only concession to him is holding my tongue the next time he lashes out, and not putting my bulk trash near the invisible "line" on city property in the future. He isn't nice now -- at all -- after I got rid of the cat and worked on the tree so I don't see what I gain by doing more things for him.

To really do a good job on the tree I would need to be physically be in his backyard, so it's better that he just do that himself. --72.188.xxx.xxx




Outraged neighbor (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Aug 8, 2020 9:18 AM
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but J, you didn't do him any 'favors' with the cat and/or tree. Those were issues that you created.

As for accessing his yard to cut the tree, I cannot imagine living in a world where I did not get along well enough with a neighbor who would not allow temporary, limited access on their property in order to improve both properties. Does he work - go to church every Sunday morning? Go and do it while he's away. --72.70.xxx.xxx




Outraged neighbor (by J [FL]) Posted on: Aug 8, 2020 9:23 AM
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Nicole It is true I didn't do him favors -- I never expected a thank you for doing those things -- but I also didn't expect to get blasted for the non-issue of the bulk trash after I corrected those other problems. --72.188.xxx.xxx




Outraged neighbor (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Aug 8, 2020 9:04 PM
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Busy, have you seen the movie Grand Torino with Clint Eastwood? --73.120.xx.xxx




Outraged neighbor (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Aug 9, 2020 1:48 PM
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6X6, yep. Love that movie.

Clint Eastwood has always been a favorite of mine. My daughter has almost the exact same outfit that the Hmong women wore to his funeral. And, then the movie has a great car. Whats not to love? --70.92.xxx.xxx




Outraged neighbor (by Sir Walter [NC]) Posted on: Aug 9, 2020 10:26 PM
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J,

He may not be overreacting. He may simply be experienced in a different way.

There may be something that you are doing or condition that you are creating that is creating unintentional downstream impacts, or that he is aware of will do so. And since you have not yet had the experience, you may not be able to connect the dots.

Life can sometimes be like dealing with a teenager wanting praise for making dinner, but being hurt for being told that they also need to clean up the big mess they made while doing so. We are all that teenager at some time to someone, no matter how old we get. We simply may not be aware of it.

Some people wear a mask while walking around outside for non-COVID related reasons. Over the top for one person is a reasonable avoidance of a problem for another.

It may not be a nice neighborhood, but not treating it as if it were nice would not make things any better. Just treat him with respect, regardless of how he treats you. And make certain that your actions are clean.

Peace to both you and your neighbor. --98.122.xxx.xx




Outraged neighbor (by J [FL]) Posted on: Aug 10, 2020 11:19 AM
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Actually he is the one who disrespected me. --99.203.xxx.xx




Outraged neighbor (by Cjoh [CT]) Posted on: Aug 10, 2020 9:42 PM
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I would ignore him as if he wasnt even there...................................charlie see how he likes that kettle of fish................ --32.214.xxx.xx




Outraged neighbor (by J [FL]) Posted on: Aug 11, 2020 5:55 AM
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That sounds like a fantastic idea Charlie. --72.188.xxx.xxx




Outraged neighbor (by CJOH [CT]) Posted on: Aug 15, 2020 6:52 PM
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J,used to go down to Kissimmee every year for a couple of weeks Now age is entering the picture .........charlie --32.214.xxx.xx




Outraged neighbor (by SHAUN [FL]) Posted on: Aug 16, 2020 9:39 AM
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J, What I am reading is the root of the issue is not the cat, the tree limbs, or the bulk garbage--It is the manner in which he is approaching you. He is not "sharing" his concerns/issues in a calm, respectful manner. He is being an aggressor, with the yelling and gesturing.

Something that works for me when dealing with irate parents/guardians and deescalates the situation.

1-lower the volume of your own voice and speak in a calm manner. I know it can be hard when someone is going off on you. When they have to focus on hearing you it takes the wind out of their sails.

2.Validate their concern or feelings-I understand your concern. I can only imagine... I see where that would be upsetting...

3.A statement that lets them know that you heard them and will take care of it. With the cat-I mention it to my tenants. Tree limbs - I'll see that it is taken care of. --173.31.xxx.xxx




Outraged neighbor (by J [FL]) Posted on: Aug 16, 2020 9:53 AM
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Shaun,

Yes, that's the problem. He's never been polite this entire time, about anything. The guy was out sitting in his car glaring at me the other day. This is after I've started placing my bulk trash far away from his area.

I think this may be a case of buyer's remorse and it is just being taken out on me. These people are not young and understandably they probably aren't going to learn English at this point. That's probably why they chose this neighborhood. But now they are realizing the neighborhood is crap.

They would been better off in a nice condo in the suburbs or a house out in the country that isn't packed up against other houses. --72.188.xxx.xxx




Outraged neighbor (by pete [OR]) Posted on: Aug 19, 2020 8:21 PM
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At one of my places, the neighbors are fussheads. I have removed the fire pit, the tall hedge, keep the grass mowed, and put in a dog run with a pet door. I really want to be a good neighbor. They let me know everything my tenants are doing in return. If my tenants are having visitors in the back yard, they will count them and report back to me. Bong on the kitchen table? Same thing. --35.132.xxx.xxx




Outraged neighbor (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Aug 25, 2020 3:31 AM
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I had neighbors that got my home number and kept on calling me about a rental -- all hours of the night. My tenants were a bunch of roommates and students. They couldn't take the harassment from the neighbors and moved out early.

So I re-rented the house to a Rock Band, allowing them to practice their music during the weekend.... The louder the better.... This drove the neighbors insane....they thought a car parking after 11 pm wasn't right. How about a 5 member band and 20 spectators listening to loud music every weekend -- from 7 PM to 1 AM....

I won this battle...... I told my tenants to tell the neighbors that Robert sold the house to one of the band members parents....this way I wasn't bothered anymore.. --47.155.xx.xxx




Outraged neighbor (by Cjoh [CT]) Posted on: Sep 20, 2020 2:21 AM
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Robert,Ithikyoure justthe Cats meow.............................. ...........charie --32.214.xxx.xx



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