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Question on Skill Set (by GKARL [PA]) Aug 5, 2020 4:21 PM
       Question on Skill Set (by NE [PA]) Aug 5, 2020 4:30 PM
       Question on Skill Set (by Jason [VA]) Aug 5, 2020 4:46 PM
       Question on Skill Set (by Steve [MA]) Aug 5, 2020 5:18 PM
       Question on Skill Set (by NE [PA]) Aug 5, 2020 5:50 PM
       Question on Skill Set (by Robert J [CA]) Aug 5, 2020 6:59 PM
       Question on Skill Set (by GKARL [PA]) Aug 5, 2020 7:09 PM
       Question on Skill Set (by Steve [MA]) Aug 5, 2020 8:00 PM
       Question on Skill Set (by small potatoes [NY]) Aug 5, 2020 8:54 PM
       Question on Skill Set (by Hoosier [IN]) Aug 5, 2020 10:49 PM
       Question on Skill Set (by myob [GA]) Aug 6, 2020 6:21 AM
       Question on Skill Set (by GKARL [PA]) Aug 6, 2020 6:54 AM
       Question on Skill Set (by myob [GA]) Aug 6, 2020 7:57 AM
       Question on Skill Set (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Aug 7, 2020 1:27 AM
       Question on Skill Set (by Kim [TX]) Aug 7, 2020 12:14 PM


Question on Skill Set (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Aug 5, 2020 4:21 PM
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For my seven unit, I need the following done:

1) Two new sets of stairs built. One of the stairs is internal. The other external to the building. The internal stairs are needed to build a new entrance to an existing apartment.

2) I need to cut openings and install about eight new windows.

Am I correct in thinking that a framer or carpenter crew could handle this? The reason I ask the question is that I'd like to find and hire such a company directly as opposed to contracting with a GC and paying a premium. What's the best way to go about finding a framer? I'm going to need a crew of around 2-3 people.

--70.158.xxx.xx




Question on Skill Set (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Aug 5, 2020 4:30 PM
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You need a framer. A good one for the stairs for sure. What you might want to do, is call the inspection office and talk to the inspector. Just speaking hypothetically with him, so he doesn't really know what you're doing. Ask him for the names of a few carpenters in the area. The ones that he rattles off, are probably going to be pretty good. I wouldn't tell him any details about what you're doing at this point. See where that gets you.

I would just call window World for the windows. They've done at least 100 of mine. --50.107.xxx.xxx




Question on Skill Set (by Jason [VA]) Posted on: Aug 5, 2020 4:46 PM
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Follow NE's advice. It's definitely a job for a framer, but finding one that takes pride in their work is getting more and more rare. The rough openings for the windows would be a job for the framing crew as well. They would install the windows as well if they're new construction windows (which is what you should go with if you have the siding off). --73.177.xxx.xx




Question on Skill Set (by Steve [MA]) Posted on: Aug 5, 2020 5:18 PM
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Your correct, framing a good working code compliant set of stairs is something that most decent framers or experienced carpenters can do. Try inquiring at some of the lumber yards, the kind that actually provide whole frames to contractors. You'll be more likely to find a decent carpenter at these than at most of the big box stores. --71.174.xxx.xx




Question on Skill Set (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Aug 5, 2020 5:50 PM
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Ask them what rise and run they recommend for the set of stairs that you're thinking about putting in. If they can't answer that question, keep looking until you find one who can. --50.107.xxx.xxx




Question on Skill Set (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Aug 5, 2020 6:59 PM
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A carpenter and/or framer can easily handle cutting the new stringers, treads and risers for your stair case. BUT, they may not know the exact codes or how to measure out and calculate the "math" involved in the project.

They can follow direction, but may not be able to create something from scratch.

For example after they stairs are built, if you are going to add carpet, tile, laminate or stone over the "Wood", then the first step has to account for the extra height and that stringer of the first step has to be cut down by the finished thickness.

Over 35 years ago and about 5 years ago I told the owners of replacement steps about this "math". They didn't listen and in the end the steps were OUT OF CODE and had to be torn out and re-done.

So you'll need to have someone provide you with the measurements and basic design so your carpenter has the information to follow. --47.155.xx.xxx




Question on Skill Set (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Aug 5, 2020 7:09 PM
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I have architectural plans, so shouldn't that remove the guesswork when it comes to measurements? City inspectors have to inspect as well before carpet or sheetrock goes on. --209.122.xx.xxx




Question on Skill Set (by Steve [MA]) Posted on: Aug 5, 2020 8:00 PM
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The plans should help them get the correct tread & riser measurements as well as stairwell opening. Of course it depends a bit on how accurate the architect's field measurements were. Usually the code inspector is primarily interested in the the tread & riser measurement, headroom clearances, width, landing sizes & fire stopping. They don't seem to care if the stairs are actually comfortable to use.

Whenever I build a set of stairs, I like to place the stringers on 12" centers & add extra blocking for the handrails. --71.174.xxx.xx




Question on Skill Set (by small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Aug 5, 2020 8:54 PM
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remember those outside stairs will need a 'handrail' in addition to the rail that caps the balusters. --24.194.xxx.xxx




Question on Skill Set (by Hoosier [IN]) Posted on: Aug 5, 2020 10:49 PM
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Maybe go to where they are building new houses and talk to some of the framers there. --99.92.xxx.xxx




Question on Skill Set (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Aug 6, 2020 6:21 AM
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GKARL you got all the answers for sure.

One question I have is why not use the GC? How much different pricing we talking about and is worth the aggravation of working with subs?-- subs you don't really know? Also how much other work you have going on? --99.103.xxx.xxx




Question on Skill Set (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Aug 6, 2020 6:54 AM
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myob, I'm not adverse to going the GC route, but I'm parceling out the job among the various trades, so I have separate plumbers and electricians. If the GC is competitive on price and service, I'll consider.

--209.122.xx.xxx




Question on Skill Set (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Aug 6, 2020 7:57 AM
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I got it. One huge job I had I required the GC to line item everything. He didn't know what items I would do or he would have to do. Then from that sheet I marked my stuff and my guys stuff to do and he had to cut me a check when my part was done. Kept my crew busy and made me enough to cover my insurance deductible. --99.103.xxx.xxx




Question on Skill Set (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Aug 7, 2020 1:27 AM
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G,

I see you need a framer and and framer who does remodel work. Not all know how and where to cut open a wall for a window.

Here is #22's trick. Go to const sites and talk to the boss about doing your interior work and windows an a rainy day.

BRAD --73.102.xxx.xxx




Question on Skill Set (by Kim [TX]) Posted on: Aug 7, 2020 12:14 PM
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I would say that if you don't know what to look for yourself (in terms of screw-ups), go with the GC. Stairs can require some negotiating, even when plans are drawn. You need someone with some experience and snap. --23.30.xx.xxx





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