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cracked window (by Hollis [MA]) Aug 1, 2020 1:57 PM
       cracked window (by Robert J [CA]) Aug 1, 2020 5:51 PM
       cracked window (by RR78 [VA]) Aug 1, 2020 9:17 PM
       cracked window (by RentsDue [MA]) Aug 1, 2020 9:33 PM
       cracked window (by MikeA [TX]) Aug 1, 2020 11:00 PM
       cracked window (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Aug 1, 2020 11:33 PM
       cracked window (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Aug 2, 2020 2:49 AM
       cracked window (by Hollis [MA]) Aug 2, 2020 10:34 AM
       cracked window (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Aug 2, 2020 10:59 AM

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cracked window (by Hollis [MA]) Posted on: Aug 1, 2020 1:57 PM

So that problem tenant called the board of health and the "inspector" cited us with IMO , a bunch of bogus violations, IE no fan in the bathroom ..I understand in a house of this age if you have a window that can open that you are not in violation,

No name,address and phone number posted in common area (yes we do, in 2 places and legal size) Several cracked windows ,..there was ONE in a bedroom, (they admitted in the check list when they moved in ..a small crack that was not separated or loose/unstable, understanding that HUD rules (although this is not a HUD house rental,) says if a crack is thus,. its OK (?)

The smoke detectors,.(we have excess of SD's in this unit, for each bed room (3),living room, the hallway, the dinning room and the kitchen,..more than required,, but he is citing that they should be mounted on the ceiling,..My understanding is that they shouldn't be,..that often in some fires that air is trapped in the last foot or two and the smoke hangs lower and I believe that instructions from the SD makers say mount them on the walls a foot or two lower than the height of the ceiling...

I can't wait to get rid of these people but now if we try I understand they can say its retaliatory and they get to stay for 6 months,..

cracked window (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Aug 1, 2020 5:51 PM

Sorry you have "unprofessional" inspectors sent out by your City, County or State. This is a common occurrence. You see "most" inspectors aren't there to protect the safety of your tenants! Instead they are there to "generate extra revenue" via fines, fee's and permit requirements.

Here in Los Angeles this problem is rapid. I had inspectors write up Bogus violations. I decided to "stand my ground" an fight. So the City took me to court.

The City presented a case against me via an Official Hearing before the City's General Manager. On the hearing panel was someone representing the City Building and Safety departments and another person representing the Housing Department.

I got a chance to address the violations. Then the panel said it was an owners word against the City! I had to Chime-In with some important news:

I'm not just a landlord/owner, but instead a California Licensed Contractor with several Trade Class Licenses, City Licenses and Federal Licenses. I have school training and over 30 years experience in the industry. I am a professional landlord with a property management company and so on.... This was not the City's professionals in those trades saying I've done something wrong, but a SINGLE INSPECTOR LOOKING TO GENERATE REVENUE FOR THE CITY.

I then produced a report done by a retired City Inspector that now owns a consulting company. His findings were the City's violations were not valid and very thing at my property was current and up to code...needed no modifications or repairs.

The City was not impressed since they couldn't sock it to me. So they took the case under advisement, to string me along. I then hired my attorney to file a law suit against the City for Harassment. The city retaliated and inspected several of my other properties looking to cause me harm. How dare I protect my interests and go after the City for their Mistakes...

From that point on, I take what ever the City says with a grain of salt. I'm rich and can fight them on their turf...

cracked window (by RR78 [VA]) Posted on: Aug 1, 2020 9:17 PM

4" to 12" from ceiling to top of the detector.

Rule we always followed.

Pretty sure this is a HUD rule. And they can be on the wall.

Need to call someone in charge of that department. --73.40.xx.xx

cracked window (by RentsDue [MA]) Posted on: Aug 1, 2020 9:33 PM

Can you get a certification from the fire department on the SDs , just like you need for a certificate of occupancy?

cracked window (by MikeA [TX]) Posted on: Aug 1, 2020 11:00 PM

I would be meeting with the Department manager of the health inspectors and having a chat with him. Make him point out in code where those requirements come from and why the fan is not grandfathered, shoot get the Fire Marshall to give you smoke detector requirements to pesent to him to prove your point. Finish with letting him know that these tenants are using the health department as leverage and his staff is aiding them with bogus and unfounded requirements and you need him to make it right. Doesn't hurt if you throw in the name of his boss during the conversation.

I don't know if it will work, but they might rescind the inspection and send out another inspector to do it right. I was successful in doing this once, but we are very landlord friendly here.

cracked window (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Aug 1, 2020 11:33 PM

Cracked window is not difficult to replace. Inspectors will always find some little nick pick item to show the building was inspected. Some towns or cities it is possible to download all the building codes so can see what is required. If not can visit town hall to get all the building codes.

cracked window (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Aug 2, 2020 2:49 AM


Wanna be right or rich?

It's not worth arguing and not worth being known as the difficult LL. Inspectors never die.

SDs are $5 each. $15 and 15 minutes. So stick 3 on the ceilings of the bedrooms.

(It IS true that fresh air can be trapped at the ceiling, keeping the smoke away from the SD)

One window pane? A few bucks.

Done. Rent keeps flowing.


cracked window (by Hollis [MA]) Posted on: Aug 2, 2020 10:34 AM

Oh but Brad,

These people know how to play the system, Apparently took several smoke detectors off the walls and removed the batteries and left them on the kitchen counter saying they were never installed, (We have pics showing where they were, so they are saying they are old pictures) They took down our required sign (2) that were in common areas as required in Ma with our name and contact numbers/address.

Inspector says he is not interested in what they have done,..its still our obligation to supply them,(!?) LOTS of other little things, Acorns on the walkway from claimed rodents ( no one else has seen these, I have a feeling that this tenant orchestrated some of these,

cited because the Bath has no vent fan (in the rules if a window can be opened its not necessary)

This is a very nice apt, people looking at it always claim its beautiful, clean, spacious (2,600 sq ft) and priced right. Was professional cleaned before they came in a=but they are claiming it was filthy to inspector.

I don't think we can do anything that they can't create a problem and use the "can;t remove us for 6 months because of ll retaliation" in Ma law

cracked window (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Aug 2, 2020 10:59 AM

Installing wired smoke alarms with a battery backup so if the tenant tampers with smoke alarm then the smoke alarm beeps. It is not difficult to install a junction box then wire from light fixture. Had a tenant complain to the building inspector where complain about mold in the bathroom. The building inspector was difficult where went to above then ask what can I do if the tenant is doing laundry in the bathroom where the exhaust fan is working. Showed picture of the laundromat with the commercial front load washing machines and commercial laundromat dryers. They removed the grout in the floor tile where installed new grout. Remember the government funded tenancy advocates tell tenants how to play the no rent game. Make improvements then if the tenant is still there amortize the cost of improvements into the rent where over two years or more the improvements are paid for. Here they used to find the rental housing providers if the batteries were removed from the smoke alarm where now they fine the tenants. Wired smoke alarm with battery backup is much better where the green light then powered up. Impairing safety can be cause for eviction here.

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