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flooring dilemma (by J [FL]) Jul 31, 2020 9:02 AM
       flooring dilemma (by Richard [MI]) Jul 31, 2020 9:21 AM
       flooring dilemma (by Jason [VA]) Jul 31, 2020 9:27 AM
       flooring dilemma (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Jul 31, 2020 9:57 AM
       flooring dilemma (by Vee [OH]) Jul 31, 2020 10:10 AM
       flooring dilemma (by J [FL]) Jul 31, 2020 10:49 AM
       flooring dilemma (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Jul 31, 2020 11:39 AM
       flooring dilemma (by WMH [NC]) Jul 31, 2020 12:32 PM
       flooring dilemma (by SHAUN [FL]) Jul 31, 2020 1:10 PM
       flooring dilemma (by Jason [VA]) Jul 31, 2020 2:20 PM
       flooring dilemma (by DJ [VA]) Jul 31, 2020 2:32 PM
       flooring dilemma (by RR78 [VA]) Jul 31, 2020 2:48 PM
       flooring dilemma (by Nellie [ME]) Jul 31, 2020 4:29 PM
       flooring dilemma (by J [FL]) Jul 31, 2020 6:05 PM
       flooring dilemma (by BillW [NJ]) Aug 1, 2020 10:21 AM
       flooring dilemma (by J [FL]) Aug 1, 2020 11:16 AM
       flooring dilemma (by 6x6 [TN]) Aug 1, 2020 6:36 PM
       flooring dilemma (by J [FL]) Aug 2, 2020 8:41 AM

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flooring dilemma (by J [FL]) Posted on: Jul 31, 2020 9:02 AM

I have a house that is all tile, but several different tile colors.

Some areas are a hard white, while some rooms are and orange-pinkish. And you can see different areas that flow through into different rooms. In addition, two closets have a third color tile (gray).

The tile is ceramic "red chip", not porcelain, and there have been at least 10 that have broken during tenancies and had to be replaced at turnovers, during the last seven years.

The color scheme doesn't look good and it makes it hard to choose a new wall color. I don't want to tear up all the tile and retile with something new. I am hesitant at trying to paint any of these tiles a different color.

What would you do:

1) Run luxury vinyl plank over the house's entire flooring

2) Run a waterproof laminate over entire flooring. (I thought this might work better over the depressions created by the grout lines than the vinyl plank, but I don't know.)

3) Leave floor alone and paint all the walls a cool white that has a hint of warmth.

4) Something else.



flooring dilemma (by Richard [MI]) Posted on: Jul 31, 2020 9:21 AM

I'd go with number 3.

Tenants can provide their own throw rugs in a variety of colors pleasing to them. --172.222.xx.xxx

flooring dilemma (by Jason [VA]) Posted on: Jul 31, 2020 9:27 AM

Iíd install laminate over top. --73.177.xxx.xx

flooring dilemma (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Jul 31, 2020 9:57 AM

Unless this is a really high end house, your tenants don't care that the tile doesn't match. There is no reason to go to the expense of replacing it. --98.146.xxx.xxx

flooring dilemma (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Jul 31, 2020 10:10 AM

If you want a new overlay floor skim coat the whole area with the fine powder mortar, it will come off with the tiles later from hammer beating apart. --76.188.xxx.xxx

flooring dilemma (by J [FL]) Posted on: Jul 31, 2020 10:49 AM

OregonWoodsmoke and Richard,

Thanks. My concern is that I had a lot of trouble renting this place last turnover (five years ago). People weren't interested, and the ones who did apply were duds. The kitchen also has some separate issues with appearance that I don't have complete ability to change, but I am making some improvements there.

I finally rented it to some people who were right on the margin, in terms of qualifying. They turned out okay but the place was rented for under the market rent.


flooring dilemma (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Jul 31, 2020 11:39 AM

Best option install commercial grade porcelain as any domestic flooring is only good for owner occupied houses. Expensive upfront where laminate, wood or carpet does not stand up well to abuse that occurs in rentals. When there is a vacancy commercial flooring needs a quick up mopping then rent where seen many rental housing providers continue to replace laminate flooring every three years or less. In the apartment buildings the commercial flooring stood up under severe conditions. Where was able to install DIY with good quality wet saw. Videos on You Tube about installing porcelain flooring. If a lit cigarette is thrown on commercial porcelain nothing happens. If tenant sneak in a pet then a quick mopping cleans up. While more expensive up front but over a period of ten years or more the cost is less. --147.194.xxx.xx

flooring dilemma (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Jul 31, 2020 12:32 PM

I'd go with laminate from Costco. To skim coat the grout lines for Allure would be a major hassle, but if you don't it WILL telegraph through.

My son has had laminate from Costco in his house for 18 years now, with kids and pets, and it still looks brand-new.

And the new version is waterproof, I think. Beautiful colors.

GOOD tenants DO care about nice flooring. We get comments all the time on our Allure floors, but only from the good ones. Bad ones just need a place and don't care about anything - including taking care of your house. --50.82.xxx.xxx

flooring dilemma (by SHAUN [FL]) Posted on: Jul 31, 2020 1:10 PM

What about the skim coat concrete. The polished concrete look. It comes in variety of colors, not just battleship grey. Or the wood laminate. --173.31.xxx.xxx

flooring dilemma (by Jason [VA]) Posted on: Jul 31, 2020 2:20 PM

The propertyís quality will be a direct reflection of your tenant poolís quality.

Nobody in my circle would rent a property with multi-colored floor tile. But somebody desperate for a place wonít care. I would never rent to anybody thatís desperate.

But it all comes down to the location and target market. Also, consider the value for re-sale. --73.177.xxx.xx

flooring dilemma (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Jul 31, 2020 2:32 PM

Use an embossing leveler product to fill the grout lines & make it all level.

Then # 1 or 2 --70.160.xxx.xxx

flooring dilemma (by RR78 [VA]) Posted on: Jul 31, 2020 2:48 PM

I agree with Jason. And you did say had a rd time renting last time.

And I would go with LVP like the lifeproof. I use a different brand that is similar.

Would not even consider waterproof laminate. That does not mean it is waterproof. With laminate it just means it is more waterproof than the previous generation. Dont fall for the marketing. Read the warranty and specs.

At least this is true on all I have found.

With the thicker products like the lifeproof. You are less likely to need a skim coat.

I hated dealing with floor leveler / skim coats before.

But found Ardex featherfinish. Easier to work with. More like using sheet rock mud.

Can still sand it some within 20 minutes if you mess up something.

Should be very easy and quick to do those grout lines. And then blend in any unlevel areas. Hard to say if the grout lines need it without seeing it.


flooring dilemma (by Nellie [ME]) Posted on: Jul 31, 2020 4:29 PM

You had a hard time renting, low quality applicants, lower rent than you expected. All of these indicate that the mismatched tile and kitchen situations need to be resolved in order to improve tenant pool and rent. Or are planning on being a slum lord? The feathering skim coating should fill those grout lines well enough to install Lifeproof. --71.161.xxx.xxx

flooring dilemma (by J [FL]) Posted on: Jul 31, 2020 6:05 PM

Alright thank you everyone. I remember reading about lines telegraphing through Allure on another thread here. Thank for this place or I might never have known about that problem until too late.

I'm actually planning to do something like this in my own residence as well so I can kill two birds with one stone, with the learning process. And I have the money from the Amazon stock that I invested in to do this (this kind of thing is exactly why I bought that). --72.188.xxx.xxx

flooring dilemma (by BillW [NJ]) Posted on: Aug 1, 2020 10:21 AM

Have a flooring guy come in and have a look. They can tell you what will work depending on the flatness and rigidity of the surface. Also, be careful of floor heights, esp for entry doors and stair riser heights. Carpet would be the cheapest and give some sound isolation, if that's a concern. --100.1.xxx.xxx

flooring dilemma (by J [FL]) Posted on: Aug 1, 2020 11:16 AM

Thanks Bill. --72.188.xxx.xxx

flooring dilemma (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Aug 1, 2020 6:36 PM

Ask yourself this:

Will a new floor give you a better tenant?

Will a new floor get you more rent? Enough to pay for the new floor,material and labor?

How much longer will the tile last and how long will the new floor last?

What is a popular floor type in your area for a new home? --73.120.xx.xxx

flooring dilemma (by J [FL]) Posted on: Aug 2, 2020 8:41 AM

I believe that it could pay off in the long run. The neighborhood is so so but I believe it's on the upswing. Having a nicer looking place could make it faster to rent and eliminate the problem of floor tiles cracking and having to be replaced. --72.188.xxx.xxx

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