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Backrent negotiations (by Laura C. [KY]) Jul 30, 2020 12:12 PM
       Backrent negotiations (by NE [PA]) Jul 30, 2020 12:27 PM
       Backrent negotiations (by 6x6 [TN]) Jul 30, 2020 12:56 PM
       Backrent negotiations (by Ken [NY]) Jul 30, 2020 1:06 PM
       Backrent negotiations (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Jul 30, 2020 1:40 PM
       Backrent negotiations (by #22 [MO]) Jul 30, 2020 3:48 PM
       Backrent negotiations (by Laura C [KY]) Jul 30, 2020 7:24 PM
       Backrent negotiations (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Jul 31, 2020 2:02 AM
       Backrent negotiations (by BRAD 20,00) [IN]) Jul 31, 2020 2:04 AM
       Backrent negotiations (by Kurt [MI]) Jul 31, 2020 9:07 AM
       Backrent negotiations (by Vee [OH]) Jul 31, 2020 9:27 AM
       Backrent negotiations (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Jul 31, 2020 5:35 PM

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Backrent negotiations (by Laura C. [KY]) Posted on: Jul 30, 2020 12:12 PM

KY Supreme Court lifted moratorium. I'm having meeting with couple who have made very little payment toward rent since March but who claim they've not received unemployment yet. What documentation should I request as proof of income over the COVID months? I suspect one of them has been working throughout.

Any thoughts here on what may be a reasonable payback amount, in addition to monthly rent?

Backrent negotiations (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jul 30, 2020 12:27 PM

If I was in this position, I would ask them what their plans are with getting the rent paid. If they said they are waiting on unemployment, I would ask them can they provide me with any of the documentation? I would do this all through text. I probably wouldn't push it any further than that and I would file as soon as possible and let them prove to the courts where they are at in the process.

You could spend a tremendous amount of time chasing ghosts and it's probably not worth it. As soon as you can get into the court, let the court figure it out.

Backrent negotiations (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Jul 30, 2020 12:56 PM

Look on FB and see if they have been posting anything about rent, unemployment or anything along those lines.

Backrent negotiations (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Jul 30, 2020 1:06 PM

I dont care why they owe me and i would not be meeting with them,i would simply give them the eviction notice and get the process started.There is a good chance your courts will have another eviction moritorium so a delay in starting the process and they might be there for free till next spring

Backrent negotiations (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Posted on: Jul 30, 2020 1:40 PM

I'd ask if they have any available credit on their credit cards because as luck would have it, you accept Visa/MasterCard.

Then go forward with eviction unless laws in your state require a payment plan.

Does their car have any equity? Tools, anything? What about making it a loan and having a more equitable co-signer?

Backrent negotiations (by #22 [MO]) Posted on: Jul 30, 2020 3:48 PM

They won't pay you. You're probably being nice and getting taken. Ask them for 3 months of bank statements and to sign an unconditional release which you provide, allowing you to confirm unemployment benefits still not paid. When they refuse, you'll know they've been lying the whole time.

Backrent negotiations (by Laura C [KY]) Posted on: Jul 30, 2020 7:24 PM

Thanks for all the great suggestions. I have already started with notice to vacate process and am skeptical but would rather recoup payment than evicting and paying turnover costs, if possible.

Backrent negotiations (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Jul 31, 2020 2:02 AM

Laura C,

Here's what I did a few days ago...

I knocked on his door (A RARE thing for me to do!) and showed him his rent ledger sheet which included $5 per day late fees.

He had a million excuses INCLUDING why he never showed up for the work I gave him.

I used my MOVE OUT AGREEMENT form which I distributed at several MrLL Conventions.

"Joe, Do you understand this rent log showing you owe $XXXX in rent and late fees?"


"Sign here that you agree you owe this amount"


I can use this in court to avoid arguments about money and the possibility of a liberal judge reducing my amount due to Covis, etc.

The next day he paid $2450 into our deposit only account.


Backrent negotiations (by BRAD 20,00) [IN]) Posted on: Jul 31, 2020 2:04 AM

too quick...

Re-read #22's post. This guy is playing you. He needs to either pay or go.

A reasonable amount to pay? He's BROKE! and staying until YOU take action.


Backrent negotiations (by Kurt [MI]) Posted on: Jul 31, 2020 9:07 AM

No unemployment yet?

Since March?

You should ask them if they have filed, haha.

Unemployment WAS backlogged to start with, but that has all been sorted out...about 1.5 months ago.

Backrent negotiations (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Jul 31, 2020 9:27 AM

The negotiations were done before you agreed to allow this person to move in, follow your state/local court rules about timing and if you can get them to sign the amount due bill as Brad has mentioned many times you simply go to court - why invent a new wheel? The old one was rolling along fine.

Backrent negotiations (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Posted on: Jul 31, 2020 5:35 PM

Another approach is to rack up a bunch of fines and fees, add the rent owed, then forgive it and send the IRS a 1099-C so they'll have to pay taxes on that debt forgiveness. Maybe sue them for it to put it on their record.

No matter what you do, I doubt you'll get anything for your troubles.

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