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witchcraft? hunted? (by elliot [RI]) Jun 29, 2020 4:30 PM
       witchcraft? hunted? (by elliot [RI]) Jun 29, 2020 4:31 PM
       witchcraft? hunted? (by plenty [MO]) Jun 29, 2020 4:36 PM
       witchcraft? hunted? (by Richard [MI]) Jun 29, 2020 4:49 PM
       witchcraft? hunted? (by WMH [NC]) Jun 29, 2020 4:55 PM
       witchcraft? hunted? (by 6x6 [TN]) Jun 29, 2020 5:06 PM
       witchcraft? hunted? (by JKJ [MA]) Jun 29, 2020 6:06 PM
       witchcraft? hunted? (by Busy [WI]) Jun 29, 2020 6:40 PM
       witchcraft? hunted? (by Busy [WI]) Jun 29, 2020 6:40 PM
       witchcraft? hunted? (by elliot [RI]) Jun 29, 2020 6:44 PM
       witchcraft? hunted? (by Still Learning [NH]) Jun 29, 2020 9:19 PM
       witchcraft? hunted? (by Ken [NY]) Jun 29, 2020 9:40 PM
       witchcraft? hunted? (by Salernitana [CA]) Jun 29, 2020 10:54 PM
       witchcraft? hunted? (by Busy [WI]) Jun 30, 2020 12:59 AM
       witchcraft? hunted? (by Busy [WI]) Jun 30, 2020 1:02 AM
       witchcraft? hunted? (by Hammer [TN]) Jun 30, 2020 6:59 AM
       witchcraft? hunted? (by Ken [NY]) Jun 30, 2020 8:32 AM
       witchcraft? hunted? (by AllyM [NJ]) Jun 30, 2020 9:33 AM
       witchcraft? hunted? (by Bit [IN]) Jun 30, 2020 10:02 AM
       witchcraft? hunted? (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Jun 30, 2020 3:52 PM
       witchcraft? hunted? (by Busy [WI]) Jun 30, 2020 5:20 PM
       witchcraft? hunted? (by John [NJ]) Jun 30, 2020 7:35 PM
       witchcraft? hunted? (by John [NJ]) Jun 30, 2020 7:36 PM
       witchcraft? hunted? (by Busy [WI]) Jun 30, 2020 8:01 PM
       witchcraft? hunted? (by elliot [RI]) Jun 30, 2020 11:55 PM
       witchcraft? hunted? (by Busy [WI]) Jul 1, 2020 9:20 AM
       witchcraft? hunted? (by Cjo’h [CT]) Jul 1, 2020 4:34 PM
       witchcraft? hunted? (by Cjo’h [CT]) Jul 1, 2020 5:00 PM
       witchcraft? hunted? (by Cjo’h [CT]) Jul 1, 2020 5:12 PM
       witchcraft? hunted? (by 6x6 [TN]) Jul 1, 2020 5:30 PM
       witchcraft? hunted? (by Busy [WI]) Jul 1, 2020 6:24 PM
       witchcraft? hunted? (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Jul 1, 2020 11:47 PM
       witchcraft? hunted? (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Jul 1, 2020 11:47 PM
       witchcraft? hunted? (by Small potatoes [NY]) Jul 2, 2020 12:54 AM
       witchcraft? hunted? (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Jul 2, 2020 2:09 PM
       witchcraft? hunted? (by Cjo’h [CT]) Jul 2, 2020 6:28 PM
       witchcraft? hunted? (by Cjo’h [CT]) Jul 2, 2020 6:43 PM
       witchcraft? hunted? (by Cjo’h [CT]) Jul 6, 2020 2:08 AM
       witchcraft? hunted? (by Cjo’h [CT]) Jul 24, 2020 6:40 PM
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witchcraft? hunted? (by elliot [RI]) Posted on: Jun 29, 2020 4:30 PM
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I got accepted an offer through auction.com (significantly below fair market value). Normally I would be happy to write a check and move forward.. This one kind of freaked me out.

Since it is a foreclosure and occupied, there is not much to see other than exterior. New roof/siding, neighbor mentioned that it was rehabbed in 2015. It is a nice section of the town, all houses around are well kept. This one stands out, all the doors and window frames are brush stroked (not completely painted) with bloody red color over white trim. Immediately it reminded me the resemblance of 1st Passover.

My cleaning/paint guy is from Caribbean and he knows people who practice witchcraft. The owner on record happens to have a distinct African/Caribbean last name (and first name).

Should I walk away? What would you do? NE probably will laugh at me for asking this..

--96.253.xx.xx




witchcraft? hunted? (by elliot [RI]) Posted on: Jun 29, 2020 4:31 PM
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Haunted.. not hunted.. Oops.. --96.253.xx.xx




witchcraft? hunted? (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Jun 29, 2020 4:36 PM
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Sage it. Inside and outside. They will move. --99.203.xx.xx




witchcraft? hunted? (by Richard [MI]) Posted on: Jun 29, 2020 4:49 PM
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No, don't walk away.

I lived in the Caribbean for a while, so I have an idea of what you are seeing.Also, there are Many houses in Miami like this.

Many people from that area and from Africa, especially if they or their ancestors lived in the Caribbean area, have strong religious beliefs. (no, they're not all voodoo). Among their strong beliefs, are that bright colors painted around their doors and windows keep evil spirits out. Weather this came down from biblical times, I have no idea, but it would not surprise me.

If it is their belief, fine.

As to the way it's painted affecting your decision, speaking for myself, I would not worry about it.

Some people have a cross hung in their house. Some use paint

When the place is empty, just repaint. --24.180.xx.xxx




witchcraft? hunted? (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Jun 29, 2020 4:55 PM
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Richard is right: Christians hang crosses and Catholics hang pictures of the crucified Christ and no one bats an eye. The Jews hang an ornament on their doorframes (the mezuzah.)

I'm sure other religions have other symbols.

Buy it, and re-paint! --50.82.xxx.xxx




witchcraft? hunted? (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Jun 29, 2020 5:06 PM
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I wouldn't be concerned about it either. If it is a great deal then that is what matters. Buy and paint. --73.120.xx.xxx




witchcraft? hunted? (by JKJ [MA]) Posted on: Jun 29, 2020 6:06 PM
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Elliot, I wouldn’t give it a second thought, congratulations on the good deal! --72.93.xxx.xx




witchcraft? hunted? (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Jun 29, 2020 6:40 PM
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The part of this that gives me pause- property is occupied. If it’s a tenant, then no worries, just deal as with all tenants. If it’s the owner who was foreclosed upon, that might be a battle. Some of those battles have taken years to resolve...

The red paint, if it’s tenant occupied, well, if it were me, I’d just get some more red paint, paint it properly, if the paint goes well enough with the house. And, I am sure I would ask the tenant if any special considerations need to be taken when painting.

My daughter’s house has sticks on the front and back doors, held with bright red ribbon, inside the house, additional red ribbons are tied at various places. Each family member has a red ribbon tied around their ankle. The special consideration that is very important in Hmong religion- if the ribbons are to be taken off, they must not be cut to remove. The knot is loosened to slip the ribbon off, or untied. If the red is important to their religion, they will appreciate that consideration was given.

We could all use a few blessings these days! --70.92.xxx.xxx




witchcraft? hunted? (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Jun 29, 2020 6:40 PM
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The part of this that gives me pause- property is occupied. If it’s a tenant, then no worries, just deal as with all tenants. If it’s the owner who was foreclosed upon, that might be a battle. Some of those battles have taken years to resolve...

The red paint, if it’s tenant occupied, well, if it were me, I’d just get some more red paint, paint it properly, if the paint goes well enough with the house. And, I am sure I would ask the tenant if any special considerations need to be taken when painting.

My daughter’s house has sticks on the front and back doors, held with bright red ribbon, inside the house, additional red ribbons are tied at various places. Each family member has a red ribbon tied around their ankle. The special consideration that is very important in Hmong religion- if the ribbons are to be taken off, they must not be cut to remove. The knot is loosened to slip the ribbon off, or untied. If the red is important to their religion, they will appreciate that consideration was given.

We could all use a few blessings these days! --70.92.xxx.xxx




witchcraft? hunted? (by elliot [RI]) Posted on: Jun 29, 2020 6:44 PM
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2nd factor is that my closing attorney won't be able to run a title search quick.

Never assume, but is there a way to do a quick online title search by myself? I checked the deed situation, the bank took it back.. didn't see anything else.

Since the owner had a mortgage on the property, I would image that her closing attorney has gone through the title search to make sure nothing crazy before that..

Btw, This one is something called CWCOT properties, a way for HUD to off load properties at a discounted price, supposedly. --96.253.xx.xx




witchcraft? hunted? (by Still Learning [NH]) Posted on: Jun 29, 2020 9:19 PM
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Haunted - sage the house --73.17.xx.xxx




witchcraft? hunted? (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Jun 29, 2020 9:40 PM
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Elliott,you definitely need title searched and a policy,i buy foreclosures regularly right at the auction and the banks attorneys mess it up pretty regularly.Make the bank wait,they will.Busy,who cares if occupant is a tenant or former owner? former owner has no additional rights although it can cause title problemsd if they weren't served properly.Most former owners want to leave when I buy a place at auction,i just gently give them a push and they leave --104.229.xxx.xxx




witchcraft? hunted? (by Salernitana [CA]) Posted on: Jun 29, 2020 10:54 PM
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Indeed, you could just use sage. You could even ask a Catholic priest to bless the house and say prayers with him, and then give a tax-deductible donation for your Schedule A.

Best of luck, and please share what happens just in case anything odd occurs. --73.93.xx.xx




witchcraft? hunted? (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Jun 30, 2020 12:59 AM
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Ken, readers on another RE forum watched with great interest as a seasoned investor told the contemporaneous tale of getting someone who felt they had a claim on the property purchased as a foreclosure. I believe it took five years! People would check in from time to time asking him how the next court case and the next was going. In a different state, but still. Miserable to read....other posters shared some similar experiences, experiences in that thread, though no one else had an ordeal nearly nearly as long.

That was my only concern. Elliot is astute enough to sort through it, though perhaps his concern about possible witchcraft might just be his ‘gut’ alerting him that ‘something’ warrants more attention. Just meant to point him in the direction of a holdover owner ( if that is a phrase that would be used.) Sometimes our clever minds notice something, but we ‘can’t put our finger on it.’ Sometimes we notice other things, such as the red paint, and think, oh, that must be what is niggling at my brain. ( niggling is a tickling/ nudging of sorts. The word is related to finagling, if I recall from high school English, where the teacher made us learn Oh, so many Latin root words, lest anyone think it has other meaning. Just sounds somewhat similar, no relation...) Anyhoo, just meant to alert Elliot to be observant of what might be a real problem, or not. Again, he’ll sort it out, I believe. --70.92.xxx.xxx




witchcraft? hunted? (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Jun 30, 2020 1:02 AM
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Er....Getting rid of, or getting out , In that first sentence. --70.92.xxx.xxx




witchcraft? hunted? (by Hammer [TN]) Posted on: Jun 30, 2020 6:59 AM
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First, know your state and local laws regarding foreclosures.

2. Do a title search, somehow.

3. Compare the two. Anything on the title that would survive a foreclosure? Make sure that is addressed BEFORE you close and pay.

4. Know your eviction laws in your area.

We have bought 2 occupied foreclosures and had to evict both. One had a lien on it from the power company. 2 phone calls and an email later they agreed that their lien was wiped out at the foreclosure. 6 months later they got around to filing the release of lien. --137.119.xxx.xx




witchcraft? hunted? (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Jun 30, 2020 8:32 AM
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Busy, wow,that former owner must have known what he was doing,wonder how long he stretched out the foreclosure before the guy bought it at the auction? when I knock on the door they just start telling me how fast they are trying to get moved,since I am there the day of the auction I cant evict till I own it in 30 days anyway so I work with them and gently push and they have always left but a well timed bankruptcy filing would start a time consuming delay --104.229.xxx.xxx




witchcraft? hunted? (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Jun 30, 2020 9:33 AM
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What Richard said but do you want to deal with that kind of mentality that is living there? Like herding cats. --71.104.xx.xxx




witchcraft? hunted? (by Bit [IN]) Posted on: Jun 30, 2020 10:02 AM
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I would handle it like any other deal.... and tell them you will give them the boogey man curse if they don't leave immediately and clean the house from top to bottom, lol.

Seriously though maybe some sort of monetary bonus would help them move without causing grief? --74.130.xxx.xxx




witchcraft? hunted? (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Jun 30, 2020 3:52 PM
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Elliot,

Buy and move forward.

Locally we can ask the court for a Writ of Assistance for the sheriff to do a lock out.

Market it as "Some say it's haunted but we have not seen any ghosts". A local restaraunt uses that in their ads! Then charge extra. Some people LOVE that.

Me? I believe in the one true living God who grants mercy to those who believe. He only requires our faith and nothing else. I don't put ANY credence in trinkets, paint, statues, or any man made item.

I DO like Bit's idea...dab yellow paint on the doorframe and tell them YOUR God os now in charge of this house.

BRAD --73.102.xxx.xxx




witchcraft? hunted? (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Jun 30, 2020 5:20 PM
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Elliot, whatever you do RUN from Brad’s advice! SMH! --172.56.xx.xx




witchcraft? hunted? (by John [NJ]) Posted on: Jun 30, 2020 7:35 PM
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As long as they are sacrificing goats in the living room you are good to go.... True story that this did happen in a garden apt complex. A friend of a friend is the manager and had to deal with it as I was told.

John

New Jersey --69.121.xxx.xx




witchcraft? hunted? (by John [NJ]) Posted on: Jun 30, 2020 7:36 PM
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oops! I meant as long as they are NOT sacrificing goats you are good to go.

JohnnyC

New Jersey --69.121.xxx.xx




witchcraft? hunted? (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Jun 30, 2020 8:01 PM
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Interestingly enough, sacrificing animals is protected in my city. Hmong culture uses animal sacrifice as part of their ceremonies. The animal is slaughtered in the garage usually. And day ahead of the ceremony, plastic sheeting ( think ginormous sheets press and seal plastic wrap) is laid over all flooring surfaces.

Haven’t seen a goat used though. Beef, pig, chickens, yes.

If you get the chance to try spring rolls, yum! --70.92.xxx.xxx




witchcraft? hunted? (by elliot [RI]) Posted on: Jun 30, 2020 11:55 PM
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Last time I bought a foreclosed one from same site, my attorney filed something called commercial eviction, owner/tenant figured that their days are numbered and signed a lease with us to become our tenants.

I am not worried about their not moving in that perspective. --96.253.xx.xx




witchcraft? hunted? (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Jul 1, 2020 9:20 AM
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Keep in mind, you don’t even KNOW why the red paint is there. If you go through with the purchase and want the red paint gone, I recommend you simply use your usual procedures to tell the tenant you will be painting the trim. Then change it as you see fit. DO NOT do the very blatant violation of Fair Housing laws and tell them your god is now in charge.

What I mentioned in my responses was strictly what I would do. And I said as much in my responses. Imposing your religious views ( in a religious POWER play) on tenants might be a good way to help some lawyer owner your property.

--70.92.xxx.xxx




witchcraft? hunted? (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Jul 1, 2020 4:34 PM
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Elliot,make sure you duck your head when you enter and. watch where you step,don’t want to get any red paint on your blue suede shoes,just like what Elvis said......................Charlie. from Derry Oh! And don’t forget the mask,verry important,especially a blue mask,you know to go with the blue suede shoes...........,.,,,,,, --32.214.xxx.xx




witchcraft? hunted? (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Jul 1, 2020 5:00 PM
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Elliot,just me again,If the red paint looks half decent,maybe another coat of the same would be all that you need.............charlie --32.214.xxx.xx




witchcraft? hunted? (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Jul 1, 2020 5:12 PM
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Busy,Hmong,what kind of religion is that?and where does it come from,never heard of it.................... charlie --32.214.xxx.xx




witchcraft? hunted? (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Jul 1, 2020 5:30 PM
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The Hmong people (RPA: Hmoob/Hmoob, Nyiakeng Puachue: ")0"Hmong pronunciation: [m%TK]) are a Southeast Asian ethnic group in Southeast Asia and China. They are a sub-group of the Miao people, and live mainly in southern China, Vietnam and Laos. --73.120.xx.xxx




witchcraft? hunted? (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Jul 1, 2020 6:24 PM
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And, very cute grand babies!

The Hmong people helped the US in the war in Cambodia. Shhhhhh!! ! Supposedly the US was never involved in a war in Cambodia. They helped us in exchange that we would help them get out if we didn’t win the war. The word Hmong translates as free people. They do not have their own country. In the US, they mostly settled in Minnesota, Wisconsin, and California.

My daughter met her husband in school. ( He says he was the token Asian kid, lol!) --70.92.xxx.xxx




witchcraft? hunted? (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Jul 1, 2020 11:47 PM
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Sense of humor anyone?

BRAD --73.102.xxx.xxx




witchcraft? hunted? (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Jul 1, 2020 11:47 PM
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Sense of humor anyone?

BRAD --73.102.xxx.xxx




witchcraft? hunted? (by Small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Jul 2, 2020 12:54 AM
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Elliot, auction. Com must be trying to move a bunch of properties. I got an email to make a offer on a place that they had up 5 or more times. They are looking for 45 to 50k I bid 15.it has a title that most certainly won't clear.

As for spirits if you don't believe they won't affect you. Growing up the caribbians practiced chicken and goat sacrafices in the parks and hung balls of herbs tied up on tree trunks during parade season and the orthodox hung fishing line from lamppost to lamppost for whole neighborhoods so they were in their realm so to speak. The rest of us just go about our business and many here believe sage will clear the air. some Latinos also believe rue the plant has a Clensing affect. I fear the santaria priest's and Christians who speak in tongues. Chinese belive red is a lucky color. To each their own, people are people if you think they are angry, watch your back. --99.203.xx.x




witchcraft? hunted? (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Posted on: Jul 2, 2020 2:09 PM
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If you're concerned about it, it's a problem. There are too many houses available or soon to be available to waste your time buying a house that you have any doubts about.

Or, just hire a witch doctor to sacrifice a goat, and a chicken for extra measure, to cleanse the house. Might want to also consider having a Christian house blessing and throw in a Wican to cast a spell for good measure. Have all of them document what they did and present the documentation to any tenant that asks. --108.69.xxx.xxx




witchcraft? hunted? (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Jul 2, 2020 6:28 PM
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Thanks 6. X 6 and. busy, or as they say in some parts of Ireland Go Raith Mait Agut translated. Same thing........Charlie. ... Ta an Tanim atar ugum Catal that’s my name...............Olde Gaelic.......... --32.214.xxx.xx




witchcraft? hunted? (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Jul 2, 2020 6:43 PM
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I like chicken.but it just has to be cooked a certain way.I don’t know too much about The Goat.Think I’ll pass on that one! Maybe next year..charlie. --32.214.xxx.xx




witchcraft? hunted? (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Jul 6, 2020 2:08 AM
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Busy sounds like your’re a little predjudished.about grand babies...... charlie..................... --32.214.xxx.xx




witchcraft? hunted? (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Jul 24, 2020 6:40 PM
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Coming from the wilds of Ireland,Seems like we all have our” Come upensenses”............... charlie............................. --32.214.xxx.xx




witchcraft? hunted? (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Jul 24, 2020 7:00 PM
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Oh!where do I get my hands on some of that Sage,seems like it would be good to have some lying around.....................................................charlie --32.214.xxx.xx



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