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Covid and Repairs (by LINDA OSBORN [NY]) May 9, 2020 7:11 AM
       Covid and Repairs (by Richard [MI]) May 9, 2020 7:57 AM
       Covid and Repairs (by RB [MI]) May 9, 2020 7:59 AM
       Covid and Repairs (by MC [PA]) May 9, 2020 8:19 AM
       Covid and Repairs (by JR [ME]) May 9, 2020 8:23 AM
       Covid and Repairs (by NE [PA]) May 9, 2020 8:23 AM
       Covid and Repairs (by MC [PA]) May 9, 2020 8:26 AM
       Covid and Repairs (by Still Learning [NH]) May 9, 2020 8:28 AM
       Covid and Repairs (by LINDA [NY]) May 9, 2020 8:55 AM
       Covid and Repairs (by FloridaNative [FL]) May 9, 2020 8:59 AM
       Covid and Repairs (by FloridaNative [FL]) May 9, 2020 9:02 AM
       Covid and Repairs (by LINDA [NY]) May 9, 2020 10:55 AM
       Covid and Repairs (by MC [PA]) May 9, 2020 10:58 AM
       Covid and Repairs (by AllyM [NJ]) May 9, 2020 11:00 AM
       Covid and Repairs (by JR [ME]) May 9, 2020 11:02 AM
       Covid and Repairs (by Ken [NY]) May 9, 2020 11:12 AM
       Covid and Repairs (by Sisco [MO]) May 9, 2020 11:57 AM
       Covid and Repairs (by Scott [IN]) May 9, 2020 11:59 AM
       Covid and Repairs (by Vee [OH]) May 9, 2020 1:56 PM
       Covid and Repairs (by CJ [MO]) May 9, 2020 3:02 PM
       Covid and Repairs (by LINDA [NY]) May 9, 2020 3:09 PM
       Covid and Repairs (by LINDA [NY]) May 9, 2020 3:09 PM
       Covid and Repairs (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) May 9, 2020 3:19 PM
       Covid and Repairs (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) May 9, 2020 6:38 PM
       Covid and Repairs (by LINDA [NY]) May 9, 2020 7:30 PM
       Covid and Repairs (by LINDA [NY]) May 9, 2020 7:37 PM
       Covid and Repairs (by LINDA [NY]) May 9, 2020 7:37 PM
       Covid and Repairs (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) May 9, 2020 7:45 PM
       Covid and Repairs (by LINDA [NY]) May 9, 2020 8:58 PM
       Covid and Repairs (by LordZen [MA]) May 9, 2020 11:02 PM
       Covid and Repairs (by Sir Walter [NC]) May 10, 2020 5:15 AM
       Covid and Repairs (by LINDA [NY]) May 10, 2020 10:12 AM
       Covid and Repairs (by LindaJ [NY]) May 10, 2020 12:28 PM
       Covid and Repairs (by LINDA [NY]) May 10, 2020 12:49 PM
       Covid and Repairs (by Ken [NY]) May 10, 2020 5:52 PM
       Covid and Repairs (by LINDA [NY]) May 10, 2020 6:21 PM
       Covid and Repairs (by Sir Walter [NC]) May 11, 2020 12:54 AM
       Covid and Repairs (by Linda [NY]) May 11, 2020 2:59 PM
       Covid and Repairs (by Sir Walter [NC]) May 11, 2020 7:12 PM
       Covid and Repairs (by sid [GA]) May 11, 2020 8:30 PM
       Covid and Repairs (by Linda [NY]) May 12, 2020 6:29 AM


Covid and Repairs (by LINDA OSBORN [NY]) Posted on: May 9, 2020 7:11 AM
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My tenant is demanding a noise mitigation, which I am willing to do, but they have warned me they work intimately with COVID patients (an MD) daily and they could be infectious at any time. To get an estimate (much less do the work) we would all need to wear PPE to be safe. Tenant is withholding rent until I make the modification. Their lawyer sent an illegally prepared notice, but the courts are closed. They have bought a house and will move in two months; they have refused to settle. My question is, I need to remain actively pursuing repair because I will be bringing these folks to court for non-payment when this all opens up. This tenant will think of reason after reason to not let anyone in because she just wants to steal a few thousand dollars. What sorts of pressures should I be applying to protect myself? Are there laws that require a tenant to make a safe environment for contractors? Like if you have a vicious dog and you refuse to tie them up, what is a landlord's defense? --24.161.xx.xxx




Covid and Repairs (by Richard [MI]) Posted on: May 9, 2020 7:57 AM
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Record it all. Prepare bills for the expenses required to protect yourself. Add all these charges to your lawsuit.

Good thing this is someone you can likely get a judgement on and collect.

Show no mercy to those who attempt to rip you off. --75.7.xx.xx




Covid and Repairs (by RB [MI]) Posted on: May 9, 2020 7:59 AM
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Put a bunch of moving boxes at the front door. --184.53.x.xxx




Covid and Repairs (by MC [PA]) Posted on: May 9, 2020 8:19 AM
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Have it in text or email about the reasons why someone can't come in. Give a date you will go in and have it writing when they decline. Proves you tried. --73.230.xxx.xx




Covid and Repairs (by JR [ME]) Posted on: May 9, 2020 8:23 AM
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What type of noise mitigation is the tenant requesting? It doesnít sound like an issue of habitability. Tenants and their lawyers just cant withhold rent without good through a legally-prescribed process. I donít know why you feel you need to mitigate a noise issue to retain your right to sue for non payment. Care to share more details? --98.13.xx.xxx




Covid and Repairs (by NE [PA]) Posted on: May 9, 2020 8:23 AM
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What kind of noise mitigation is she forcing you to do that justifies withholding rent? That's almost laughable. --174.198.xx.xx




Covid and Repairs (by MC [PA]) Posted on: May 9, 2020 8:26 AM
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Tenant would also need to prove it being in escrow. Mu guess is they saving money for their house. --73.230.xxx.xx




Covid and Repairs (by Still Learning [NH]) Posted on: May 9, 2020 8:28 AM
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Also document any contractors that refuse when you explain the risk factors to them. Perhaps send written updates to your tenant that you have called x# of contractors that have refused due to potential exposure to the virus. --73.17.xx.xxx




Covid and Repairs (by LINDA [NY]) Posted on: May 9, 2020 8:55 AM
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Thanks for all the replies! I am a 70 YO widow being taken advantage of - I know that.The noise issue is coming from plumbing. It is minor and relatively inexpensive and I offered to mitigate it a year ago. She declined construction (in writing). Her lawyer now says, 14 months later, that the noise has driven them from the bedroom, has "deprived them of quiet enjoyment," and I must "repair and restore the premises." Since i plan to eventually more there, I'm willing to mitigate the noise I deduct it all on the rental.

I have legal notice the we must all wear PPE. Her son has a sudden convenient fever. Since there is really nothing to repair, I have to demo and then rebuild a part of the ceiling. Due to the configuration of the house, we could come in through a separate entrance and never even see the tenants;and I found someone who would. They are throwing contagion at me to prevent anyone from coming in so they can say they demanded repair and I didn't do it, so they will steal the last two months rent. Were I a contractor I would be wary of going into a home where the tenant has state she may be infectious. I find nothing in the law that protects me, except after the fact. I am of course documenting all, but I will be constrained to only the rent amount, I think. No damages I can think of. They have been vindictive to the people above them, and treated my employees badly. I see this like a vicious dog, where the tenant breaks the toilet and demands repairs, but won't tie up the dog. What plumber would walk in to that? This is getting awfully expensive, too. She has many more resources than I; my lease doesn't allow for legal fees (don't yell). I am resigned to eating part of this; but if there is something else I should be doing, that would be helpful.Grateful to you all. --24.161.xx.xxx




Covid and Repairs (by FloridaNative [FL]) Posted on: May 9, 2020 8:59 AM
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Unless the tenant has already closed on their new house it will kill their financing to miss the rent payment during the approval process - even during Covid-19.

If she has closed and is trying to get work done in the new house before she moves in that's still no reason to withhold rent without putting the rent money into the court accounts designated for these events.

Was this a short term lease? Why is she asking for noise mitigation now? That seems weird to me to ask for it two months before she moves.

Just a question to the group: I was under the impression that when making accommodations for a (disabled) tenant that the tenant pays for the accommodations, not the landlord. The landlord pays (in general) for maintenance and repairs. Please correct me if I'm wrong. It seems to me that this tenant is requiring something that is special and not at all normal. --99.56.xx.xx




Covid and Repairs (by FloridaNative [FL]) Posted on: May 9, 2020 9:02 AM
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I see Linda. You answered many of my questions while I was posting. Sounds like you have a professional on your hands. --99.56.xx.xx




Covid and Repairs (by LINDA [NY]) Posted on: May 9, 2020 10:55 AM
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To answer some of your questions:

1. She has money. She is a doctor with only one child and a spouse.

2. She hates the upstairs people and blames me because they are walking around. Especially after school closings and mandatory lock-down. I have made several accommodations for them (yes, I have receipts). She wants to hurt me, that's all.

3. The notice from her attorney is bogus on several counts (no time limit, no escrow, and this was first notice): no basis in law, no basis in the science of acoustics, no basis in accuracy, nor history of the issue at hand. I see an ethics filing with the state bar in her future.

4. Tenant refused in writing construction to mitigate 14 months ago. There is no other solution to the noise.

All of this is documented.

The thing I am most interested in learning from this group

is that the tenant, by her own admission and due to her employment activity, has made the property contagious. Does anyone know of anything in statute that says she must make the premises safe for my contractors?

You were right - a pro.

--24.161.xx.xxx




Covid and Repairs (by MC [PA]) Posted on: May 9, 2020 10:58 AM
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Good chance she is bluffing about withholding. Doesn't have it. If your courts are open, or when they open, file for eviction. At least you have most in writing and regardless of what they say, THEY DIDN'T PAY. That is what it will come down to. I should not be getting more expensive for you. Just document. Make it the only contact.

Depends on closing, their house may not be ready for awhile. File as soon as you can.

I have had at least 3 claim this or that and I got my rent money or at least the judgement when I had to go to court. Many on this board will say the same. --73.230.xxx.xx




Covid and Repairs (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: May 9, 2020 11:00 AM
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Document everything. Hang on for two months. DON'T DO ANY MITIGATION. It's a lie anyway. One of my tenants did that to me when she wanted to move for a new job. She claimed that mold there was making her sick. HER RABBIT'S HAY was making her sick. I threw six hundred dollars at it for a mold expert. She was not going to pay that last month's rent and your MD there is not going to pay the two months no matter what you do. Noise is not a basic service like heat water and electricity. Don't let them make you jump through this hoop. Ignore. They are not going to pay no matter what you do. They are perpetrating a fraud on you. Get witnesses. --173.61.xxx.xx




Covid and Repairs (by JR [ME]) Posted on: May 9, 2020 11:02 AM
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You need to get a lawyer experienced in landlord tenant law.

Stop talking to the tenant.

All requests in writing

Sue her at your first chance for non-payment

All the rest is blah blah blah, ignore.

Have an iced tea. --98.13.xx.xxx




Covid and Repairs (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: May 9, 2020 11:12 AM
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Where are you located in the state? I wouldn't do anything for her,i wouldn't allow her out of the lease or anything,we cant evict till August 20 so if she moves before that I would sue her in small claims court,if still there August 20 I would evict for non payment.Do doctors have anything in there contracts concerning ethics? get the judgment and file it at the county so it is public record then I would mail a copy to the administrator at the hospital --104.229.xxx.xxx




Covid and Repairs (by Sisco [MO]) Posted on: May 9, 2020 11:57 AM
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She is being difficult intentionally. I would not hire any noise mitigation plumbers, if you do this doc will find more issues to muddy the water.

Rent is due, noisy pipes or not, if she refuses to pay take her to court, get a judgement, garnish if necessary. --67.43.xxx.xxx




Covid and Repairs (by Scott [IN]) Posted on: May 9, 2020 11:59 AM
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File for eviction as soon as you can. Your state may allow you to lien her new house when you get a judgement. --107.141.xx.xxx




Covid and Repairs (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: May 9, 2020 1:56 PM
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I would just send a rent due bill including unpaid damages, unpaid utilities and the actual rent due, the amount paid on the account and remaining balance from last month. If this person even volunteers in a medical environment it is likely they have heard of the global germ and have prolly seen or heard something from the news there is really no solution today offering a healthy secure way to remain in a construction zone for the safety of others or themselves, the moving boxes are the best cure until 2021 when vaccines will be available to reduce the spread of the germ. As the balance mounts while they are planning to purchase you should be ready to give a housewarming lien for them to carry. --172.58.xxx.xxx




Covid and Repairs (by CJ [MO]) Posted on: May 9, 2020 3:02 PM
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Can you ask her to move out out now? Some tenants are hard to please and I do not want to deal with. --104.186.x.xxx




Covid and Repairs (by LINDA [NY]) Posted on: May 9, 2020 3:09 PM
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Thanks everyone for being so generous. This is in Westchester County. It is exactly my Plan to file the papers for non payment whether they leave or not- I have a Landlord-Tenant attorney and I will just take it off the front burner. It is very upsetting. They would love to push this into litigation, but I am not going there. I will just file the non payment notice when the time comes. They will have moved out by then.

I spent the afternoon downloading all our mutual texts. But without proper notice and an escrow, they haven't a this is an illegal document drawn to harass the landlord.

But courts are funny things. I hate to have to go there.

L --24.161.xx.xxx




Covid and Repairs (by LINDA [NY]) Posted on: May 9, 2020 3:09 PM
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Thanks everyone for being so generous. This is in Westchester County. It is exactly my Plan to file the papers for non payment whether they leave or not- I have a Landlord-Tenant attorney and I will just take it off the front burner. It is very upsetting. They would love to push this into litigation, but I am not going there. I will just file the non payment notice when the time comes. They will have moved out by then.

I spent the afternoon downloading all our mutual texts. But without proper notice and an escrow, they haven't a this is an illegal document drawn to harass the landlord.

But courts are funny things. I hate to have to go there.

L --24.161.xx.xxx




Covid and Repairs (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Posted on: May 9, 2020 3:19 PM
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Just have your plumber wear mask, eye protection, gloves and a painter's suit and they should be fine. I'd try my best to eliminate her excuses no matter what.

She works with COVID patients as an MD. Big deal. She's taking precautions. I bet she's in the clear. My wife puts breathing tubes down COVID patients' throats while they're coughing and gagging in her face. She takes precautions, wears the right PPEs, observes protocols, showers and changes before coming home, and I kiss her goodnight every night without any fears.

If she wants to play that game, require that she wear a protective full-suit PPE that you provide. Find the hottest, most uncomfortable PPE you can find.

--108.69.xxx.xxx




Covid and Repairs (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: May 9, 2020 6:38 PM
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If she gets a judgement while she is underwriting - the loan will get tossed out --24.101.xxx.xx




Covid and Repairs (by LINDA [NY]) Posted on: May 9, 2020 7:30 PM
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Not gonna happen. My lawyer represents the guy that is selling to her. Small town. And there is just no time. Good thought, though --24.161.xx.xxx




Covid and Repairs (by LINDA [NY]) Posted on: May 9, 2020 7:37 PM
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I just got this from my texting file. I have someone who was going to take the contractor into the house to do an assessment. She said (and he reiterated to me in writing) "she is very likely and positively exposed to COVID 19 every day. I would think its smart to let the contractor know this before he agrees to come inside. The whole family will 100% be there at 10 AM on Monday the time she agreed to allow people in the house."

Nice piece of work. --24.161.xx.xxx




Covid and Repairs (by LINDA [NY]) Posted on: May 9, 2020 7:37 PM
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I just got this from my texting file. I have someone who was going to take the contractor into the house to do an assessment. She said (and he reiterated to me in writing) "she is very likely and positively exposed to COVID 19 every day. I would think its smart to let the contractor know this before he agrees to come inside. The whole family will 100% be there at 10 AM on Monday the time she agreed to allow people in the house."

Nice piece of work. --24.161.xx.xxx




Covid and Repairs (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: May 9, 2020 7:45 PM
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You don't need the judgement - only a Lis Pendens and drop that off at the local closing office.

Closing will be stopped until this matter is cleared up.

--24.101.xxx.xx




Covid and Repairs (by LINDA [NY]) Posted on: May 9, 2020 8:58 PM
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So - my Lis Pendens is against the tenant's action, (not a property) and will stop their financing from going through? Really?

If this is so, it is the best thing that's happened in weeks! --24.161.xx.xxx




Covid and Repairs (by LordZen [MA]) Posted on: May 9, 2020 11:02 PM
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UUUMM good thread here --98.216.xx.xxx




Covid and Repairs (by Sir Walter [NC]) Posted on: May 10, 2020 5:15 AM
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Does she own the house yet, or is she still in the financing stage?

This is my experience. This was in my earlier days when I was first learning how much it actually cost to fix all of those holes and dents in the wall.

My tenant was applying for a mortgage and thought that it would be a fine thing to stiff me for the final monthís rent. In the last three weeks or so before her loan was due, her lender sent me a Verification of Rents or Mortgage form. I believe that this is required if the lender is going to sell the loan to Fannie or Freddie. Most loans are securitized, so the loans have to meet certain qualifications. I wrote on the form that she was refusing to pay the most current monthís rent, as well as she owed me for the estimated damages (as per my lease).

Within 24 hours of sending the form to her lender, she paid all of the rent due up to that point. Her lender then sent another Verification of Rents or Mortgage form. I updated it that she was current on rent but still owed on the estimated amount of damages. Her lender then gave her the loan.

This made her a homeowner, so very collectible on the damages, after a subsequent judgment. The judgment then attached to the home that her lender was so generous on. That is a different story, but she is now paying on that judgment.

I donít believe a lis pendens is applicable for your tenant at this point, but it could be a very useful tool later on, after she is a homeowner and you have a judgment, some patience, and let interest accrue.

The VOR form is pretty much standard. Google it. She has two months left to get financing. In that time, she sounds determined to be both in arrears, and more than 30 days past due. She is digging her own hole.

My lessons learned:

1. Have patience.

2. Work within the system.

3. Be in the path of what and to whom rents are reported. Donít let a third party service get between you and your direct conversation with the tenantís potential lender. This is a good reason to opt out of automatic ďreporting to build credit for your tenant.Ē (That is also another story.)

4. Donít be surprised when a formerly good paying tenant suddenly becomes a bad paying tenant just before they buy the home. Their true colors show.

5. Donít be surprised if a non-paying tenant calls you begging for you to lie on the form for them while still trying to simultaneously stiff you for rent or other monies owed.

6. Did I mention Ė have patience.

--98.122.xxx.xx




Covid and Repairs (by LINDA [NY]) Posted on: May 10, 2020 10:12 AM
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Blessings to you, Sir Walter. You have done my heart good. I have not received anything from a bank, and doubt I will. They are closing next week. I think my mortgage company will give me some forbearance on the rental, which should bring my blood pressure down.

But.

I will be building a paper trail in the next 6 weeks on how she has repeatedly refused to let me in to make the "repairs". This has been her pattern since she arrived. I would not be surprised if she stays an extra month just to spite me. I want to be able to demonstrate in court that I did what I could to "cure" the violation, even though it isn't true.

Unfortunately for her, and her lawyer, I am a professional fraud investigator (health care). I knew her lawyer's demand was a fraudulent misrepresentation of the facts the minute I received it. It also had no basis in law. It contains many flaws. I intend to write a pretty strong ethics complaint to the NY bar, and after the tenant moves out send a copy of same to the Co-op Board with apologies that I was blocked from sending a letter to them without going through a censor. (She would only let me send a letter to her personal email discussing rent, not all the BS I have had to put up with. I could not reach out to the Board myself.) I think it should get the attention of the Board Attorney.

This is a small town, and everybody covers everybody's behind. The lawyers and the RE agents involved all want this to go through so they can get paid, so no one will tell me where she is going, even my own attorney as he represents the seller. The RE agent also has represented me for 10 years. And since I still gotta live here, I need these guys.

Does anybody know what the Coop Board is likely to do with the document I send? It discusses the attorney's actions and of course the type of representation provided, not the tenant's behavior over their tenancy. If I get few answer regarding what Coop Boards are likely to think of this document, I'll start another thread. Thanks much, guys. I have been a Landlord for a long time, but this was a new one. --24.161.xx.xxx




Covid and Repairs (by LindaJ [NY]) Posted on: May 10, 2020 12:28 PM
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First, our pause for NY is in effect until the end of the week and the emergency declaration is in effect until mid June. I am willing to bet your county is not among those that will be opening soon. Therefore, unless it is an emergency repair, the plumber should not be working on it. Noise is not an emergency. (especially after 14 months)

I had to put a call in to the electric company for the line coming into the house. There is no reason they would need to enter the house, yet they asked the standard questions about sickness and exposure. So I would think plumbers would want to know that as well, and really could refuse to come due to their exposure. So get the plumbers to refuse. Document.

--108.4.xxx.xxx




Covid and Repairs (by LINDA [NY]) Posted on: May 10, 2020 12:49 PM
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Thanks - I know. It just makes my case stronger when I finally take them to court. Whenever that will be. Good idea to get the contractor on the record about entrance.

Thanks --24.161.xx.xxx




Covid and Repairs (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: May 10, 2020 5:52 PM
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When you go to court for small claims remember to charge thru the following month they move out since you are not getting a proper 30 day notice and if they did give a 30 day and stayed after that you can get triple rent for that time frame.I would squeeze the realtor and attorney to give you there address to the point I would not work with them again if they refused,once her deed is recorded it is common knowledge and they can tell you and you can look it up --104.229.xxx.xxx




Covid and Repairs (by LINDA [NY]) Posted on: May 10, 2020 6:21 PM
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Nice!

Thanks

Lin --24.161.xx.xxx




Covid and Repairs (by Sir Walter [NC]) Posted on: May 11, 2020 12:54 AM
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Linda,

Be careful to not violate the Fair Credit Reporting Act or Fair Debt Collection Practices Act or any of the shades of gray related to consumer protection when speaking to others and naming your tenant. Donít squeeze the realtor and attorney, unless the attorney is working for you for the debt collection issue. Simply get her new address directly from public records when the deed is recorded.

Your attorney should know NY law on withholding rent. If he has a conflict of interest and cannot advise you or write a response letter to her lawyerís notice, get a different lawyer to send one for a small fee. You should use an attorney well-versed in landlord-tenant law, not simply your closing attorney. Take the time to call around for one. Even in a rural area, different attorneys have different areas of specialty. One will often refer you to another. Make 5-10 calls until you find the right one. You might be surprised.

Donít be surprised if a VOR is sent to you during the week that she is scheduled to close. Mortgage lenders often wait until the last minute. If they do send it to you, ensure that they also send her signed authorization to release information. If they donít, ask for that first before sending the VOR back Ė and save the signed authorization. Then fill in the form, sticking to the facts:

1. She is currently behind in her rents.

2. Her tenancy is scheduled to end next month.

3. She recently started withholding rent for unfounded reasons, for a repair that you offered to make 14 months ago and that she refused in writing, and that you are attaching a copy of that refusal. Also state that this raises a credit worthiness issue for you as a landlord.

4. Ask that they strongly encourage her to pay this monthís rent promptly, in certified funds only.

5. Ask that, as part of closing, they require her to deposit next monthís rent in the attorney of your choiceís escrow account until the unfounded repair issue is resolved. (This may not occur, but it doesnít hurt to ask.)

--98.122.xxx.xx




Covid and Repairs (by Linda [NY]) Posted on: May 11, 2020 2:59 PM
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Sadly, no VOC. Closing is tomorrow. Iím finding it had to believe that my lawyer doesnít have any responsibility to alert the lender. --67.83.x.xx




Covid and Repairs (by Sir Walter [NC]) Posted on: May 11, 2020 7:12 PM
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Too bad. I remember this being an aggravating situation. Everyone is incentivized to close.

Hopefully she pays without you going to court. --98.122.xxx.xx




Covid and Repairs (by sid [GA]) Posted on: May 11, 2020 8:30 PM
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I have one vacant and am not in no hurry to fill and do the dog and pony showat the moment. --67.140.xx.xxx




Covid and Repairs (by Linda [NY]) Posted on: May 12, 2020 6:29 AM
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This is all so stupid. My painter (who will testify) had to make a repair there last year to close up a plumbing installation; they refused because they don't want compound dust. So demanding this repair is clearly bogus. She just doesn't want to pay me. I guess she wants to go to court when they finally open up. --67.83.x.xx





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