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OT: Good for Georgia (by Bizman [GA]) Apr 22, 2020 1:54 PM
       OT: Good for Georgia (by NE [PA]) Apr 22, 2020 2:08 PM
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       OT: Good for Georgia (by David [MO]) Apr 22, 2020 2:26 PM
       OT: Good for Georgia (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Apr 22, 2020 3:06 PM
       OT: Good for Georgia (by myob [GA]) Apr 22, 2020 3:40 PM
       OT: Good for Georgia (by NE [PA]) Apr 22, 2020 3:46 PM
       OT: Good for Georgia (by myob [GA]) Apr 22, 2020 4:04 PM
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       OT: Good for Georgia (by WMH [NC]) Apr 22, 2020 4:47 PM
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       OT: Good for Georgia (by myob [GA]) Apr 23, 2020 8:54 AM
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       OT: Good for Georgia (by myob [GA]) Apr 23, 2020 9:18 AM
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       OT: Good for Georgia (by NE [PA]) Apr 23, 2020 10:00 AM
       OT: Good for Georgia (by myob [GA]) Apr 23, 2020 10:22 AM
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       OT: Good for Georgia (by myob [GA]) Apr 23, 2020 12:40 PM
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       OT: Good for Georgia (by NE [PA]) Apr 23, 2020 7:52 PM
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       OT: Good for Georgia (by NE [PA]) Apr 24, 2020 9:59 AM
       OT: Good for Georgia (by myob [GA]) Apr 24, 2020 10:25 AM
       OT: Good for Georgia (by Busy [WI]) Apr 24, 2020 11:15 AM
       OT: Good for Georgia (by NE [PA]) Apr 24, 2020 11:37 AM
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       OT: Good for Georgia (by myob [GA]) Apr 24, 2020 12:42 PM
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       OT: Good for Georgia (by NE [PA]) Apr 24, 2020 7:29 PM
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OT: Good for Georgia (by Bizman [GA]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 1:54 PM
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Georgia business opens Friday. The Left is doomsday struck at our Gov Kemp in his decision even as hospitals here mostly are idling empty waiting on Covid victims. The curve has been flattened as was so instructed by the Guru Genuis Drs & their unrealistic charts. Indeed, exercise prudent judgment in social distancing, be cautious; but it's time to act decisively. Kemp is about stopping this unsustainable, on-going financial nose-dive by remaining shutdown. The cure is doing greater harm than the virus. Their predictions on how bad it would be just didn't materialize. People everywhere losing everything. It's time to stop this ordered, self-destruction. Hopeful other governors will see the light but I have my serious doubts about some.

--24.126.xxx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 2:08 PM
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Good! --50.32.xxx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 2:19 PM
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You go Georgia! And in other Georgia news:

Georgia Democratic state Rep. Vernon Jones announced Tuesday he is resigning from his seat after last week endorsing President Trump's reelection -- a move that quickly earned him backlash from Georgia Democrats.

According to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, Jones told The Rashad Richey Morning Show, a talk show in Atlanta, that despite his resignation he would not be leaving the Democratic Party because "somebody's got to be in there to hold them accountable --73.25.xx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by David [MO]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 2:26 PM
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Good for Georgia, and the ship Comfort is leaving New York, headed home. --72.24.x.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 3:06 PM
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"Flattening the curve" was never about getting rid of the virus. It was always about minimizing the outbreak so that hospitals could handle it and to give us time to stock up.

All that is done. It's time to move forward. If we can all go into a grocery story, why not go into other stores as well? What's the difference? If anything, it will be safer since more stores open spreads out the foot traffic per store.

I never understood why we couldn't practice social distancing while working? Now that we're finding a lot more people had it who never knew it, that means the death count is far lower than expected. It's time. Let's roll. --108.69.xxx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 3:40 PM
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I'm not holding out much hope this will succeed. Basis is this-- during this whole episode people would be lined up one on top of another in H-depot- grocery stores yes even the Post Office. The post office finally got some plexiglas between them and the customers.

I was doing 2 rehabs (bath tubs and surrounds) so I was in the depot a lot 3 or 4 times a day. Never did the employees have masks-- and maybe out of 50 customers 4 had protection. This morning I had to go to the bank-- safety deposit box and had to make an appointment to do it. Was told the following: wear mask and gloves I'm thinking OK they're finally getting it. This morning I meet the person and low and behold she has NO mask and no gloves on. WHAT IS WITH PEOPLE????

SO I DON'T THINK ENOUGH HAVE DIED FOR EVERYONE TO GET THE PICTURE. Where Americans and hardy and nothing effects us? RIGHT? --99.103.xxx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 3:46 PM
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Not everyone's knees are knocking together like yours MYOB, but that's ok.

I personally can not WAIT until things open up. I'm going to scarf up deals from the sky is falling crowd faster than the virus hysteria spread baby!! Lots roll!!! --50.32.xxx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 4:04 PM
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Well spoken like a real ****. NE with some common sense we can all get through this. I'm nervous-- because many are not taking precautions-- WE ARE but that won't help us against those who have certain attitudes as put on display here.

Let me say I have much I want to do--- and I don't want my plans cut short because someone in the store or where ever coughed all over me and my family cause they didn't know they were sick.

What in gods name is it to ask to protect all around you? Why are idiots having a problem with that? Please NE explain.

Maybe do it without your usual name calling? --99.103.xxx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 4:10 PM
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I don't remember calling names, but that's ok too.

When is the last time someone sneezed or coughed in your face in public?

I've never done it to anyone and I don't remember having it happen to me.

My wife and I were just talking about an hour ago regarding these masks. Even if you have a mask on and you sneeze the pressure is going to blow out from behind that mask and spread around anyways. There's so much confusion and misinformation over this that you don't know which information to follow or which news source to listen to or anything.

It's time to Move on. Get this show on the road. MYOB, by all means if you are scared, stay home.

You do have an immune system, right?

But at the end of the day, my liberties trump your phobias man. And that's just too bad for the scared crowd.

I can't get a haircut because people are scared. I can't go buy a car because people are scared. I can't go out to eat with my family because people are scared. I can't go to church, because people are scared. Those are my rights.

If you are scared, stay home. --174.198.xx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 4:19 PM
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what scares everyone is people with this attitude. Sad! Really sad but there's thousands out there like this. --99.103.xxx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 4:28 PM
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So is that what it ultimately boils down to? People with differing opinions of this entire pandemic/fiasco/political circus have attitude problems?

I'm asking you seriously. Because there are ALOT of other people like me out there. Does that just mean we have bad attitudes?

I think I have a really good attitude. I can't wait for things to start moving! It's exciting! --174.198.xx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 4:31 PM
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Or do you simply mean "this attitude" as in open the economy back up? If that's the case, then yes, there are a lot of us out there with this attitude.

We're not wrong. Your side has its opinion and my side has mine.

Neither side is right 100%, but my side is definitely not wrong. --174.198.xx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 4:33 PM
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What Georgia is doing sounds like a step in the right direction.

My county and the county just to the south of us where a lot of people drive from to work in my town agreed this week to open up "non-essential" businesses for curbside pick up and delivery orders only. Still can't go inside to order or browse, but at least these folks can start moving some inventory and calling back some of their workers. Makes sense to me. --107.216.xxx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 4:47 PM
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I have a grandchild due end of May. I just watched a report where a new mom had Covid and her baby was removed from her for 25 days. Any mom out there knows what those 25 days meant to the bonding process.

I want my grandchild to be with his mom and dad from Day One.

I'm worried if we open too soon, he/they are at risk in a myriad of ways. From not allowing Son in for the birth to the baby being removed from their care for some period of time. --50.82.xxx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by Ed [PA]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 4:50 PM
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The GA governor is willing to put economics ahead of public safety, politics at its worst. Hopefully most businesses care more about the safety of their employees than he does and will remain closed until it is safe to reopen.

myob I'm with you. It is sad there are so many kids out there that believe they are invincible and don't care that their actions can kill others. 47k US deaths to date with more to come and they still believe this is a hoax. As John [MI] said on another post, "you can't argue with stupid".

You are only going to get angry and frustrated debating with those that are persuaded by radical propaganda that cannot logically think for themselves. --68.162.xxx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 4:52 PM
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WMH, My wife and I had our fourth child three weeks ago yesterday. We were in the hospital for two or three days. There was absolutely nothing to worry about in the hospital.

There was nothing out of the ordinary in the hospital. We even had to go into the NICU for about 24 hours and they just made sure that we washed our hands really good. Which is probably customary for that NICU. No masks or anything. Hopefully that will put your mind at ease. --174.198.xx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 4:54 PM
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Ed, 47,000 verified deaths? Because we are rapidly approaching the same number that was killed in Vietnam! With hardly any names released. --174.198.xx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by Andrew [NY]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 5:00 PM
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Has anyone taken the time to view this?

youtube.com/watch?v=WKFMZKn2zpI --96.236.xxx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 5:11 PM
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Funny how things are depending on what type of work you are in as well. It seems as though people in the construction or remodel business have never been concerned and yet the health care workers are currently gearing up expecting a surge of new cases where the businesses are opening back up.

--73.120.xx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by CDM [CA]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 5:44 PM
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On the kind of construction projects we've done, it's pretty easy to maintain a social distance -- two guys painting a big barn, for instance -- but that's really impossible at a nail or hair salon or a movie theater. The underlying fact is that the more contacts people have with other people, the more chances there are for the virus to spread. The predictions I've seen are that after about three weeks there will be a new surge of hospitalizations and deaths in places that open up now. We'll see. --73.231.xxx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by PG [SC]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 5:49 PM
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Biz man throws it out - NE - MYOB - SID - and others provide excellent points. I don't need to watch the news it's right here and less BS - just concise point and counter points.

One question - I wonder what Trump and Cuomo really say to each other behind closed - both with HUGH egos?

This whole thing reminds me of pic we had work. A log floating down the river with ants on it and every one of the ants thought they were guiding the log. --72.173.xxx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 5:54 PM
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How can anyone take the "essential" business thing seriously when (at least in OR) the pot shops are all open? Give me a break. So, who gets to decide "essential" vs. "dispensable?" Well, when you have a left wing government you get different ideas for what is necessary. Somehow, that hardly seems fair.

Then you have those working in a soup factory making $!2/hr because they are still essential. But their friends making $12/hr who is no longer working because he's now sitting home from his non-essential job is getting the equivalent of $28/hr between his state unemployment check and his federal unemployment check. Who do you think is going to become bitter???

And we're expected to just keep doing this for what...another six weeks? Another 12 weeks? Longer? Until summer is over? Uh oh, now it's fall. We certainly can't open things now...it's flu season.

What the heck is wrong with the plan to start phasing in the opening of businesses in steps, in a way that we try to protect people as best we can while trying to get thing back to normal? Why does this have to be so difficult?

And now we have a fresh new headline from the AP: "Few Americans Support Easing Virus Protections." What is that? Does that insinuate that those who want to begin to restart our economy want to all huddle up together and drink from the same straws, maybe share a kleenex?

Can we not come together and find a happy medium?

--73.25.xx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 6:12 PM
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JB, in regards to coming together and finding a happy medium, you have to realize that any media outlet is catering to its own audience. Doesn't matter if it's Fox or CNN or whatever.

If you were watching whatever channel and you agree with it, they are making those news broadcasts FOR YOU! You identify with a particular medium.

If you don't agree with a particular channel, that is because they are making those particular newscasts for the other group.

Covid has given this country the greatest division that it has had in decades, maybe even a century. Maybe even longer.

If the threat was undeniable like Hurricane Katrina or the Joplin tornado or a volcano explosion or a small astroid hitting New York City, the defense of the hive would be undoubtedly united.

But the problem is, is that the information coming out on this is subject to so much scrutiny that it has caused the division we are seeing in regards to the economy opening up versus staying closed.

And this division is coming from the scrutiny on the part of the folks that are saying, now wait a minute just doesn't add up.

This is one of the biggest stalemates that mankind has ever faced. And I think if we don't act fast, we may pass a point we won't be able to come back from. --174.198.x.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by fred [CA]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 6:15 PM
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GA is doing the right thing, I hope they are successful and have all states follow them.

I would like to know: how many of those who died coast to coast have "COVID19 as 'cause of death" on their death certificates? --99.59.x.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 6:34 PM
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And now, "Washington county sheriff refuses to enforce Dem governor's order."

The sheriff is calling Governor Inslee's stay at home order unconstitutional. Yep, I could see that being a problem.

--73.25.xx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 6:46 PM
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JB, as it should be. Oathkeeping. --174.198.x.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 6:59 PM
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your rights end NE where my nose begins. a legal expression. your “right “ to put others in danger is not a right that society is willing to allow in these circumstances. you are part of society, and sometimes the rights of the society will take precedence. so quit being a numbnut and put your big boy pants on and realize you shouldn’t always do what you want to... --107.77.xxx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 7:08 PM
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My rights are not rights that society isnt willing to allow at this time? Are you freaking kidding me? That is EXACTLY the reason why you are seeing protests at capitals around the whole country!

Read an American history book. --174.198.x.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 7:15 PM
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I wish you and your Statesman well. With each first rain of the season, when the roads or slick with oil dropping from vehicles passing by, the "people" of Southern California can't be bothered by the rain so instead of slowing down, they speed up!

Everyone is taught in Drivers Training that when it rains, drive slowly to avoid accidents. But most speed up.

I look off the high point of a rental at the highway and see wipe-outs at a bend in the road.....It never fails.

For this reason, when your State opens up the flood gates, people won't be bothered with distance, safety masks or common sense. The infected will go out to enjoy company and spread the virus like a wild fire....I hope that I'm wrong..... --47.156.xxx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by carl [NY]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 7:29 PM
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Well I see some pretty ignorant comments here by certain people. I have an extensive background in the health sciences and a number of friends that work in infectious disease. I believe in science. I do believe that the world is round and to say among other things, like "When is the last time someone sneezed or coughed in your face in public?"

Well this is the problem. So much erroneous thinking. So a person can cough or sneeze and the aerosols can hang for quite a long time, you can walk though it and be infected. Recently its been found that the live virus can vectored thru AC ducting. And the thought that "I feel fine, so no need to stay home, well it can be quite a while before you come down with the disease. During that time you could be a carrier, infecting me or someone I care about or some stooge out there bringing it back to their home or work. It very well be that getting covid may give little or no immunity. Virologists have said this may be the most transmissible disease they have ever seen.

I could go on but those that are entrenched in thinking that this is "made up" and not serious, I know they won;t change,

As far as the statement that "a Lot of us think this way"

Well, I'm seeing a bunch of people protesting restrictions and the best compliment you might give many of them them, is " HEY NICE TOOTH!"

So I also see people blowing up/setting fire to the new 5G cell towers to combat this covid as some are stating that the towers are transmitting the virus.

BTW have you looked at that you tube link that Andrew here put up about Philadelphia? You might find it very interesting,.. --66.30.xx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 7:33 PM
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Proof positive that it's one of the greatest divides in American history.

--174.198.xx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 7:37 PM
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Isn't this the same Governor who said, in early April, that he didn't know that asymptomatic people could transmit coronavirus?? Like, WEEKS after everyone knew that?

This is the guy that people want to follow for coronavirus advice? A guy that literally said he didn't even realize that people could have it and spread it when they weren't symptomatic? When, again, pretty much the entire world knew that at the time?

Well, I guess we'll see. Good luck, GA! Maybe you'll get lucky... Sometimes you win; sometimes you lose. Some people know when it is better to just not bet...

- John...

--96.40.xx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 7:37 PM
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Isn't this the same Governor who said, in early April, that he didn't know that asymptomatic people could transmit coronavirus?? Like, WEEKS after everyone knew that?

This is the guy that people want to follow for coronavirus advice? A guy that literally said he didn't even realize that people could have it and spread it when they weren't symptomatic? When, again, pretty much the entire world knew that at the time?

Well, I guess we'll see. Good luck, GA! Maybe you'll get lucky... Sometimes you win; sometimes you lose. Some people know when it is better to just not bet...

- John...

--96.40.xx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by Beth [WI]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 7:42 PM
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I think it is a reasonable experiment for a state like Georgia to go ahead and relax the restrictions. Here we are ARGUING over whether this is good or bad. Well, in about 3 weeks we will know provided lack of testing isn’t an issue. If CoVid cases start increasing at a faster rate, then I think more people (but not all!) will agree it was a mistake. If the rate of increase in cases stays the same or continues to decrease, then we may be able to relax restrictions across the nation.

My prediction is that this will not end well for GA. I sure hope I am wrong but at least the information that we get will be useful ( and hopefully reported correctly and without a lot of political bias). --47.12.xxx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 7:55 PM
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All I can really say about the youtube video is that these things are supposed to happen. Herd Immunity. Oh jeez, I'm part of that crowd....

If our overall health and medical system isn't leaps and bounds ahead of 1918 IN GENERAL, then we've done something wrong in the last 100 years.

That's not my argument here though. My argument is the TREMENDOUS overreach going on along with closing of peoples businesses.

Why not just quarantine the sick?

But anyways, by argument is just blah blah blah to anyone of opposite thinking. (odd man out on this forum, I'm surprised by that) I would think there would be way more economy folks sitting in this coffee shop.

It's like the global warming argument. Easiest way to end a global warming argument is to ask the "save the earth" person, "Well, what temperature do you THINK it should be?"

For you folks that don't want to open, What do you think is the correct date to reopen???? --50.32.xxx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by allyM [NJ]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 7:56 PM
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So Carl where were you a month ago when I was battling these people about masks, and aerosols and taking a verbal beating? So the virus can spread just by having a conversation with someone. It' just flies out with the words we speak. So I would not open beauty shops or nail salons or gym, too close contact and too much spit flying around at a gym. People need to get out in the sun. The NIH actually paid for a study that showed how important it is to have Vitamin D for the immune system. It's called Benefits of Sunlight: A Bright Spot for Human Health. It also answers the question about what happened to the Black Folks who died in greater numbers in this pandemic. They just don't produce enough Vitamin D to protect them and keep their immune system strong. It's genetic. I take Vitamin D 3 and the recommended dosage is 2000 IU. The 50 Mcg. I have translate to 400 IU so I need to take 5 a day. If you are a big guy or woman take that much or more. If smaller than take that much or less. I hope you read this. You paid for it. --173.61.xxx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 7:57 PM
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yes NE...protests by fellow numbnuts...society rights always supersede. not always to the good for sure & they do change. so no one any longer has the right to own people. but. to use an analogy even you might understand...you don’t have the right to own an atom bomb. you don’t have the right to shoot people on a whim. you don’t have the right to drive drunk. you don’t have the right to take my car without permission. you don’t have the right to infect me with a deadly virus.. --107.77.xxx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 8:02 PM
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PMH, you took it out of context. I'm not talking about atom bombs and drunk driving.

I'm talking about freedom of assembly, like church!

So when do you think is a good date for us to re-open? --50.32.xxx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by Gail K [GA]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 8:36 PM
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My county has 313 cases and today reported 16 deaths. I've got a nurse who wants to sign a lease with me but has been exposed to a positive patient and is in quarantine until she gets her test result.

Ironically the businesses that have been approved to open include hair salons, nail salons and tattoo parlors? Gee; I'd like to get a haircut but are these really essential?

As someone who worked in the health profession for 30 years I can only predict that once this order goes into play (and since most humans fit the category of being stupider that dirt) the number of cases (and deaths) in Georgia will explode in the upcoming weeks.

--73.108.xxx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 8:51 PM
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What is so hard about if you are scared of it then continue to stay home.It seems that the majority that don't want to open are happy to sit home on the couch and collect more money than if they actually had to go back to work.This is similar to those who want gun control,my rights don't end where your fear begins --104.229.xxx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by JAC [OH]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 8:55 PM
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That's rich. Use religion as a excuse to gather large numbers of people together and endanger others. Still numbnuts. --66.42.xxx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 9:03 PM
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The bill of rights in conclusion did not say "except during pandemics" or "unless someone is scared". --50.32.xxx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by carl [NY]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 9:08 PM
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"All I can really say about the youtube video is that these things are supposed to happen" (WHAT!!!)?

"If our overall health and medical system isn't leaps and bounds ahead of 1918 IN GENERAL, then we've done something wrong in the last 100 years."

(Well it shows how little you know about about infectious viruses, its true with some viruses we have no more to offer people than 100 years ago.) Ventilators and IV's help a little but not much with this one.

"Why not just quarantine the sick? " OMG..once again! you have NO clue!..

So I can see that its futile to carry on any intelligent dialog.

--66.30.xx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by Frank [NJ]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 9:09 PM
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I have a lifelong friend who was a chemistry wiz since puberty. He spent 35 years working in the drug industry researching developing & makin drugs in some of the biggest pharma companies in the Stste and the world.

In short, his take on the relaxing is a great thing...for the crematory industry.

Bring here in the (outskirts of ) NYC Metro area and NJ the Country's most densely populated state, I find the relaxing ludicrous.

My 'chemist's pointed out that a true vaccine one that is tried and true to medical standards is a year and a half to 2 years away. Assuredly IT AIN'T INSTANT.

--174.225.xxx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by Mickie [OH]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 9:10 PM
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If GA is opening back up it won’t be long before a lot of the other states in the union follow and that means I may need to rein in my civil disobedience when it comes to stop signs near town. It’ll be easier on my insurance if I continue not to get tickets. Yes, I look before I don’t stop. --71.213.xx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 9:12 PM
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Still waiting on a date for when all the sophisticated folks think we should reopen. When?? --50.32.xxx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 9:17 PM
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When you sophisticated folks pick a date for reopening, don't get caught up in analysis paralysis. It's no good in real estate investing and it's even worse here.

What date do we reopen? --50.32.xxx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 9:17 PM
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NE: You said "Why not just quarantine the sick?"

I feel like that is the big part that you keep not getting since you keep asking that sort of question. You can't just quarantine the sick because people can have and spread this to others for WEEKS without knowing that they have it -- without being "sick" at all -- without having any symptoms at all.

What part of that are you not understanding?

You said it a previous post when we talked about this before that you were "SURE" that you didn't have it. Absolutely sure, apparently. But how can you be certain? Again, you wouldn't KNOW if you had it. You'd have no idea if you were carrying and spreading the virus. You can't "feel it" or "know that you were sick." That just isn't how it works.

Do you just not believe that or something?

I don't understand how you can keep repeating things like that -- and asking why we can't just "quarantine the sick." The answer to that question is obvious and has been explained repeatedly. It's just plain science fact without any real question by anyone currently. So why aren't you getting that part? What aren't we explaining to you properly where you keep missing that obvious point?

If you're still asking at this stage why we can't just "quarantine the sick", then I feel like you really don't understand this at all. And, again, we're not even talking about disputed points. No one -- anywhere -- is disputing the fact that people who do not appear to be "sick" can easily spread this.

- John...

--96.40.xx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 9:19 PM
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And to answer your question... You can't GIVE a specific DATE right now. That's the problem and why it is so hard for some people to get. No one can give you a DATE to reopen and anyone doing so is just picking something out of the sky.

You have to pick EVENTS or GOALS to reopen at. At a certain percentage of testing being done, for example. At a level when the infected is dropping at a stable level per day for a certain period of time. (To give real numbers, the current recommendation appears to be at least two straight weeks of decreasing "newly infected" daily numbers.)

That is when we can (gradually, most likely) "reopen" safely.

- John...

--96.40.xx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 9:21 PM
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John, I'm not sick and I don't subscribe to the idea that even the air itself is poisoned. Regardless of that, what date do we reopen? --50.32.xxx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 9:32 PM
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Again, you don't KNOW that you aren't sick. You can't tell. You could be and not know it. I'm not saying you are, of course -- you PROBABLY are not. But the whole point is that people can not have symptoms -- they can say that they are "not sick" all they want -- and still have it and spread it. So, again, THAT is why we can't just "quarantine the sick." Do you understand that?

And, again, I just answered your question about when we start to gradually reopen safely -- when we reach the milestones set by experts you understand this from a science standpoint. Currently, they recommendation is at least two weeks of daily decreases in new cases. You asked and I answered the question. Twice now.

- John...

--96.40.xx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 9:34 PM
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And no one said "the air itself is poisoned." I'm not even sure what you mean by that. The virus can live on surfaces for days. An infected person could cough or sneeze near a doorknob and you could turn it a day later and then touch your face and get infected. You do understand and believe that, yes?

I'm just trying to figure out what science you believe, at least, at this point.

--96.40.xx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 9:39 PM
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At this point? I don't believe any of it. Experts have lost their credibility along the way with this thing.

It's too ripe for manipulation. Along with gradual timelines for reopening. Ripe for manipulation.

If I'm getting this much pushback just on reopening, I probably shouldn't ever bring up my thoughts on false flag and dry run war games, right? Social conditioning and behavior exercises and psy ops?

Way too much for here.

--50.32.xxx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by JAC [OH]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 9:52 PM
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Let him rant. The reality is that opening up won't be what he thinks it will be. It will be slow, lots of social distancing, more restrictions and some setbacks. He will adjust, they all do eventually. --66.42.xxx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 9:54 PM
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JAC, reopen date?

"He'll adjust, they all do eventually"????

That's another part of the reason my side is protesting.

That thinking is part of the social conditioning I'm talking about.

Are you nuts? --50.32.xxx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by JAC [OH]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 10:05 PM
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I bet you are halfway there and just don't know it. --66.42.xxx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 10:07 PM
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There are lines being drawn. --50.32.xxx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 10:12 PM
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The statement of "He'll adjust, they all do eventually" is one of the most gut wrenching anti American statements I think I've ever heard and definelty read on this forum. You should be ashamed of yourself for that one. --50.32.xxx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by JAC [OH]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 10:14 PM
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Again, I doubt it. Most of your buddies are asleep drooling on the couch drowning their sorrows in their 6 pack. --66.42.xxx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by JAC [OH]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 10:23 PM
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My version of being American doesn't include letting hundreds of thousands to millions of people die for your version of capitalism wrapped up in the patriotic flag of "don't tread on me". America is more than that and people like you are marginalized more every day. --66.42.xxx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by RTR [AL]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 10:39 PM
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WE NEED TESTS!!!!!! The government needs to spend 3 billion or whatever it takes to get tests .Then you can stop this virus from spreading. Test the employees at nursing homes that will stop it their. Test employees at food plants. We just don't know who is among us walking around and spreading the virus .WE NEED TESTS until then the government is just playing with the virus and are lives and pockets. --99.111.xx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2020 10:54 PM
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JAC, why do I have the feeling that you and "patriotic" have never been used in the same sentence before? --73.25.xx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by ROCKING BEAR [FL]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2020 6:33 AM
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JB, Because JAC will be the first to feed the liberty tree, I can't believe the so called adults in the room want to throw out their freedoms for feelings, hop the line!! NE you are not alone for sure.

--71.214.xx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by LisaFL [FL]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2020 8:16 AM
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WE ARE NOT IN THE SAME BOAT ...

I heard that we are all in the same boat, but it's not like that. We are in the same storm, but not in the same boat. Your ship could be shipwrecked and mine might not be. Or vice versa.

For some, quarantine is optimal. A moment of reflection, of re-connection, easy in flip flops, with a cocktail or coffee. For others, this is a desperate financial & family crisis.

For some that live alone they're facing endless loneliness. While for others it is peace, rest & time with their mother, father, sons & daughters.

With the $600 weekly increase in unemployment some are bringing in more money to their households than they were working. Others are working more hours for less money due to pay cuts or loss in sales.

Some families of 4 just received $3400 from the stimulus while other families of 4 saw $0.

Some were concerned about getting a certain candy for Easter while others were concerned if there would be enough bread, milk and eggs for the weekend.

Some want to go back to work because they don't qualify for unemployment and are running out of money. Others want to kill those who break the quarantine.

Some are home spending 2-3 hours/day helping their child with online schooling while others are spending 2-3 hours/day to educate their children on top of a 10-12 hour workday.

Some have experienced the near death of the virus, some have already lost someone from it and some are not sure if their loved ones are going to make it. Others don't believe this is a big deal.

Some have faith in God and expect miracles during this 2020. Others say the worst is yet to come.

So, friends, we are not in the same boat. We are going through a time when our perceptions and needs are completely different.

Each of us will emerge, in our own way, from this storm. It is very important to see beyond what is seen at first glance. Not just looking, actually seeing.

We are all on different ships during this storm experiencing a very different journey.

Unknown author

--216.186.xxx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2020 8:54 AM
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So the layman's fix: this should have been done March 16th.

NO SHOES NO SHIRT NO SERVICE!!! People don't object to that so lets add NO MASK. 2 billion Chinese aren't wrong. This year along with as long as I can remember the Chinese in winter wore mask.

So you want a start time: here it is in my opinion: 2 weeks from the time a federal law is made and enforced that if you go outside your zone-- house truck van car it is mandatory to wear your mask. ALL employees must be masked at ALL times. You want entry to a business or gov't building gotta have that mask on. When your in the park with those you have been around and know-- those who have been in your zone for 2 weeks-- no mask required. Gone fishing-- well if your going yourself or with those from your ZONE that you know-- no mask--- go on a party boat-- mask up. When someone out of your zone steps in -- all mask up.

Yes there will be certain situations of what do we do? -- When in doubt cover your mouth with mask. There can't be many places that you couldn't work without a mask.

The bottom line-- it's out there in the air from others who are sneezing and coughing-- when someone mentioned its on counters and chairs-- it's the same analogy-- it got there through spray. (Cough or sneeze) wear a mask and keep from spreading it.

My take on the protests: These folks are protesting some of the stupidity of rules-- like one guy in a boat going fishing-- or 18 people in their car at a drive in theater attending church-- while still in their car-- or I can mow my law or buy paint in a store. These leaders who don't think before enacting-- are what we protest. (me with them)

Stop talking about a cure--- it's too far away to matter right now-- but certainly full speed ahead. Unless your head has been in the sand-- you and I all know the 1B dollar prize is out there for the company that does it.

--99.103.xxx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by fred [CA]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2020 8:56 AM
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NE and JAC have turned this posting into a personal battle, they took it to the rink so they can slug each other till?

Amazingly I find myself on NE's corner. --99.59.x.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by J [FL]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2020 9:05 AM
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I don't understand the antipathy to wearing a mask. I've been using one for two weeks now when I go out to stores and you get used to wearing it. The only annoyance is sometimes I get out of the car and forget it's still in the glove compartment and I have to go back and get it. --72.188.xxx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2020 9:08 AM
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Glad to see they are opening up, would like to have seen it phased in.

It will take some time to get back to what ever the new norm is.

I don't understand so much of this. Why is selling smokes a life sustaining business? Why can a landscaper buy mulch but a home owner can't? When will the Pittsburgh Pirates disappoint me again?

--24.101.xxx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2020 9:18 AM
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Ray N PA that was funny. they will disappoint about the same time my Braves do. When is your first game? so we know who will be disappointed first. --99.103.xxx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2020 9:34 AM
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NE said: "I don't believe any of it."

That's too bad, really. I'm going to give up discussing this any more with you then. You've reached tinfoil-hat level where now you won't even talk logically about things and are just convinced it is all a conspiracy. :(

Again, I wish you luck. But I won't waste my time any longer.

- John...

--96.40.xx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2020 10:00 AM
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John, that's fine. I was taking everything you said with a grain of salt anyways. J Fl, my antipathy with the mask is basically noncompliance. You can't force me to do that.

you can ask me, but you cannot make me. Like I had said, lines are being drawn. I drew mine back when the governor single-handedly closed nonessential businesses. If you want to wear masks, then leave the businesses open. You can't just have a knee-jerk reaction and put half of the country out of business. So anything after that I'm not complying with. And that is more of a civil liberties stance that it is an antivirus stance, for me anyways. I'll take Rosa Parks' advice on this one

Also, as far as the Pennsylvania secretary of health is concerned, if you want to look up who he, she, it is, I'm not taking orders from that person.

So in a sense, the whole "not my president" thing can work both ways I come to find out. Not my health secretary and not my governor. Or does that position only work when the left is protesting the president? Rules for thee, but not for me?

You have to stand for something.

--97.35.x.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2020 10:22 AM
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I see no matter what-- some still scream fire in a theater-- even when there is none because it's their freedom of speech???? I think we get it NE.

So for you let's swing this around and say when you walk up with no mask and want service-- no shoes no shirt no mask then NO service. John was trying to be gracious with the TINFOIL Hat comment. I had to beg off the post yesterday due to your comments and to try to grasp why an adult would take these stances. Then it hit me: SOME homeowners and businessman have renters mentality also.

--99.103.xxx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2020 10:25 AM
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NE, you would probably enjoy listening to one of our Milwaukee talk radio programs. I was thinking of you as Mark Belling was discussing how a certain WWII ‘leader’ rose to power, and how he got compliance out of that country’s people. Interesting parallel. --70.92.xxx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by Mike [TX]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2020 10:40 AM
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NE, you just have to realize that on this site are there are several people who are always right..... in their own minds. When in fact they are just so arrogant and ignorant they re only fooling themselves. I have been coming to this site for about 20 years now. And in the beginning there were a lot of good posters.

Nowadays, there are still a few but mostly people on here use this site to bark out orders to the rest on the site. It makes them feel good. They would never do it face to face with someone.

Besides rentals I have other successful business’s and I can honestly say in the 20 years as a landlord I have never evicted anyone, and only one time had to clean a house after someone moves out.

I know a lot of people on here don’t believe me but honestly I could care less.

What I’m trying to say is there are a few people on here who continually try to act like they are always right . But they are missing a couple of things..... smarts and common sense. At the end of the day common sense and intelligence wins out. Your wasting your time arguing with people that have the IQ of Tickle Me Elmo.

--73.166.xxx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by J [FL]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2020 10:46 AM
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NE ok ... personally I look at wearing is as partly self interest, since I don't want to get the virus. If the mask helps at sll its worth it to me. --72.188.xxx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2020 10:53 AM
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Mike TX, you are right. Since Covid, I have greatly expanded my list of people who I won't take RE advice from on this forum.

Busy, WI, ww2 is a great subject of interest to me. The parallels with actions of government today are insanely similar to 1930's Germany. --174.198.x.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by allym [NJ]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2020 12:03 PM
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has everyone heard about the seven fold increase in blood clot strokes in the 30 - 40 age group in NY since covid? The experts say that covid does something unusual with blood clotting. One of the signs of the virus is now purple toes and no other symptoms necessary. Could be people sitting at home doing nothing. After a long plane ride some people just drop dead getting off the plane. Mask up. --173.61.xxx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by JAC [OH]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2020 12:14 PM
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I agree, on this site there is lots of missing smarts and common sense when it comes to public health. Avoid going out in a pandemic and spreading disease. If you must go out, wear a mask. Practice social distancing. Be less stupid and you can help keep our health care and essential workers safe. Common sense and intelligence can win out. --66.42.xxx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2020 12:17 PM
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JAC, ill wear a mask when someone puts one on me. --174.198.xx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2020 12:26 PM
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NE: HA! You aren't anywhere near "Rosa Parks" on your stance here. You're much closer to Typhoid Mary, sorry.

--67.209.xxx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by JAC [OH]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2020 12:31 PM
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Mask righteousness and sticking it to the man. The dumbing down of America continues. --66.42.xxx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by LindaJ [NY]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2020 12:40 PM
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Just wondering what NE wife thinks? He did mention she had a baby and was concerned about the birth. Not sure I believe all NEs bravado. I know if I had my 4 kids home, I would be very careful about where I went, who I was with just because I would not want to endanger any of them.

I tend to dislike government overreach. People should be able to take the risks that they want. BUT in this pandemic, your catching the virus could affect me. And that tramples my rights to be safe. Why should I, who is also "not knowingly infected" be confined to my house because others are reckless? Personally, I think the businesses should be able to make these decisions. No shoes, no shirt, no mask, no service. For that matter, why do we wear pants when we go out. Don't we have a right to go naked???

I remember when I was required to wear a seat belt. For a few months I wouldn't just because I don't want to be required. Then I grew up and realized, I really was jeopardizing my safety to prove a point. How childish.

Yes, the shut down regulations don't make sense in some places. Some places probably didn't need to shut down, if people had some sense and were careful. But honestly people are stupid. Now, some places should be opening. I like the science, doctors, phased plan. Makes sense. But I like that the president says these are guidelines and states makes decisions.

Then there is the guy who didn't believe any of this, he wrote on Facebook and asked for someone to prove him wrong. Well, he got COVID, he died from it. I guess that is proof. His family is on a campaign to tell people. There is the woman who lost her whole family within days. Personally, I don't want that to happen to my family. I have 87 year old parents, still living in their house down the road. Yes, we know they are living on borrowed time, but no way do I want either (or both) of them sick and dying in the hospital alone.

Thank you to all those that are being responsible and being a little inconvenienced with a face mask.

--108.4.xxx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2020 12:40 PM
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you say white! I'll say black! or you say rain and I'll say snow. Anything to see their name on the site. Not thinking anything through.

I rest my case on parallels to leadership in WWII. --99.103.xxx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by LisaFL [FL]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2020 12:44 PM
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Mike TX, well stated! --216.186.xxx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2020 12:53 PM
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My wife thinks the masks are ridiculous. She wears one just because she's afraid someone will say something to her.

As far as our kids are concerned, we are keeping this from them as best as we can. We do not want them growing up neurotic.

We are keeping them away from big stores. We drove by a park that had all the little kids swings and jungle gyms wrapped in caution tape.

Seriously????

My son asked me why and I told him maybe they are fixing them soon. What do I tell him? Government over reach which he won't understand or a virus and he grows up afraid of germs and people?

My kids are too young to need to know about it.

Today my son just asked me why there was a sign in the store about masks. I told him because everyonebis scared right now, but were not scared, right?

He said right!

Now after this is over, who will be better off? My kid or the kids who's schizo mom is taking her kids out wrapped up like mummies and doused in hand sanitizer???

--174.198.xx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2020 1:08 PM
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Linda J, also with the kids, we don't take them out. If we have to, we park the car facing away from the store entrances so the kids dont see the circus. --174.198.xx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2020 1:52 PM
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Here the home stores are not allowing children inside or any service animals, I am one city away from where a family had birth in the hospital and even with the hand washing and masks the family was tested for personal satisfaction before they left with the 4 day old and father with baby tested positive and stayed in recovery for about 2 weeks, how did that happen? I spent time at a former employer learning why the world trade exists, first it is the ruble, yen or dollar, then the actual raw material availability. Why any country within 30 percent of China land mass would not participate in the trials based on this virus, population and labor cost - this market has been winning the bids since world war 1 when labor unions would not form in Asia products continued to flow offshore and the rates have increased dramatically with the consumer demands late 50's, electric everything and who can make it cheapest - you can see it when you flip over many things, even fake flower arrangements come from there. North America has some deep iron ore but does little with it - why? Plastic seems cheaper, and when it breaks it is replaced quickly from the same inexpensive source, so we equate the value ratio about 6 or 8 to 1 good unit built local. Suddenly many industrial countries want to make medicine and are tripping over each other to develop sterile lab space that can reproduce results repeatedly so a statistical method can be documented, most of us welders, carpenters, masonry repair and electrical equipment installers do not understand the depth of this undertaking. Accordingly we want a -fix- for this airborne virus like that which cured polio - that one took 10 years to develop, test and distribute. The metal hardware coating industry I worked in found it cheaper to float or sometimes fly items round trip to oceanside asian countries where complex coatings could be applied because the effluent from the US monitored was very costly to neutralize, all we did here was saltspray test at 4-8 percent on a boatload of product to verify the coating thickness and market the durability from there. I feel this is why we have not heard much about the electronic -smoke- industry since the debate last year when there was so much variation of the products and which ones were to be condemned as second hand emission, plenty has been done with the ground grown tobacco and yet people still consume them and blow it out whereever it may go. Things people tough without any symptoms can easily hold the handheld germs, it isn't all about the breathing them as a carrier. For those still reading, safely use a UV lite to sanitize everything in your life except humans and deeply desired animals since it has been confirmed felines are carriers of this germ for which there is no known inoculation found yet for humans, at least on this planet. --172.58.xxx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2020 2:45 PM
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Will people die, probably. The initial shut down orders were to flatten the curve. If you want to prevent people from dying.....I suppose we could put the world in a frozen state - for the next couple of years.

After we cure C-19, we should also flatten the curve on Cancer, Heart disease, lung disease, the next new virus.

A large problem with the complete shut down and wait strategy, collectively we have to believe government is looking out for you. At the same time we have to convince this virus not to mutate.

So I suppose there has to be some type of balancing act that has to go one. YOLO was valid in mind when I was younger and indestructible. Then kids happen in your life and suddenly things rapidly change. Things you knew as facts are not so cut and dry. Things change again with grand kids.

As for for our health secretary.....is she actually a she? I don't know. I don't think the governor vetoing a bill requiring all businesses to follow CDC guidance is the right way of doing business.

Some observations I have noted that many of these field hospitals are going up by National Guardsman and not by Army Reservist. Also NYC for needing so many extra beds didn't really utilize the USNS Hospital ship much. Perhaps, just maybe - state governments are attempting to profit some how from this nasty virus? The difference between the guard and the reserves is who picks up the funding tab. Pulling medical professionals from hospitals in brick & mortar hospitals to go into field hospitals seems strange. They are not pulling the elective surgery folks that were laid off.....nope they are pulling ICU docs and nurses for field hospitals in Chicago. I believe that medicare will not be doing so well financially after this is all said and done.

Balance goes a long way. Do I believe that the president can open up all 50 states directly.....nope he doesn't have that authority. The same day he said he could do that he did however cancel funding to WHO. Perhaps that was a thinly mask message to the states to say, federal reimbursement can also stop at any time. If there isn't a financial incentive to stay closed, would all 50 stay closed? I don't know. If you want to find out write a letter to local, state and federal government and ask for a tax abatement since you were not able to utilize your property at the same manner that it is taxed at. I am sure that you will get laughed at and told that this is a state of emergency. Then ask them if they took a pay cut since it is a state of emergency

--24.101.xxx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2020 2:59 PM
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Lisa (Fl) , that was a beautiful message from the unknown author. --172.58.xxx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2020 5:58 PM
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Ray-N-Pa: The difference between this COVID-19 situation and the rest of what you listed (a YOLO attitude, cancer, heart disease, and so on)... Is that one affects OTHER people and the rest affect only yourself in general.

Yes, we believe in being free. If you want to have a YOLO attitude for yourself, then so be it! People are free to do that. If you want to smoke and get lung cancer -- so be it! If you want to eat Big Macs 3 times a day and die early from heart problems from obesity, then you are free to do that!

But, when it comes to COVID-19, things are very different. If you have it, you can spread it to others. You might not even know that you have it. So, we make restrictions to try to limit someone going out and infecting others (even if not on purpose).

It's a very different situation than most of the other things you listed.

Again, your rights tend to end where someone else's begin. Your right to YOLO shouldn't limit someone else's right to live a longer life by trying to be safe.

- John...

--67.209.xxx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2020 6:11 PM
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And if I'm in NYC and want a Big Gulp, I can get one. Oh, oops. No I can't! --73.25.xx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by JAC [OH]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2020 6:14 PM
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Inability to purchase a Big Gulp. That's lack of freedom if I have ever heard it. --66.42.xxx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2020 6:29 PM
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JB, you might not be able to buy a big gulp, but you can buy 2 mediums at the same time!! Feel good legislation. Doing something that doesn't really do anything simply for the sake of doing something. --174.198.xx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2020 6:32 PM
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Dam right it is a loss of our freedoms.

Do you support stealing peoples freedoms, JAC. Yes, of course you do because that is exactly who you are.

What right do you or anyone else have to tell anyone what they can or cannot eat or drink? --73.25.xx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by mark [NY]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2020 6:35 PM
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Thank you John, at least someone with intelligence here. As far as buying a big gulp, kids don't need those kidney busters and pancreas killers. So nothing to stop you from buying two three or whatever cups of they put in a big gulp. But some people will continue to cry in their beer forever over this, --66.30.xx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2020 6:39 PM
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BTW, JAC it seems like you just follow John(MI) around and jump in whenever he makes a comment.

Are you John's little sister or just have an infatuation with him?

John, you may want to get an anti-stalking order. --73.25.xx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by JAC [OH]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2020 6:39 PM
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You realize that the Big Gulp ban was determined to be unconstitutional 6 years ago. For the last 6 years you have been able to get a Big Gulp in NY but have been under the delusion you couldn't. Your freedoms are secure. --66.42.xxx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2020 6:55 PM
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Yes, the unlawful and overreaching ban was overturned by the courts, not Mayor Bloomberg. --73.25.xx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2020 7:06 PM
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there was a time when it was the “right” for individuals to own other people...that was eventually stopped..right now it is the right of society to protect its members so I’m ok with regulations now. There are idiots here who think that by acquiescence to those rules that they are giving up all individual rights. we still have a strong 4th estate and too many people with different perspectives to allow a govt dictatorship to arise. some here compare to nazi Germany. they perhaps should learn why & how that happened. on a side note there were many US nazi parties in the 1930s . NE keeps asking “when should we open up”. I don’t know. I am not a medical person, but like most rational persons I defer to those on the front lines telling us to stay home right now. Hopefully nothing happens to NE and his family if he does decide to break quarantine - I will not be happy though that scarce resources will be diverted to heal them if they do get covid19..... --107.77.xxx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2020 7:23 PM
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PMH, I won't be able to break quarantine because I never self-quarantined.

Not necessarily how the Nazi party got started, but the extermination of the Jews started in the medical field and was a slow progression. By the time they were sent to camps it was because it seemed necessary. People were convinced it was the actual blood inside them.

Today's similarities are eerily similar. Closing of businesses, narking on people by their neighbors. People are actually encouraged to report violations of closure orders. Same as 1930s Germany.

Perception of everyone being infected. Where in the 30s it was only the Jews, but today it's everybody.

Now they're talking immunity cards and tracing apps, etc. Very similar to papers to be able to move about in the 1930s.

I just don't understand how people can't see these similarities. I'm not saying that that is where we are headed, but they are eerily similar. I'm not making this stuff up. It's not tinfoil hat. It's factual history. --174.198.x.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2020 7:32 PM
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When this first started, I was thinking that "wow these masks are like a little yellow Star of David".

And the more that this has gone on, I think that NO mask is a more accurate representation of the yellow star of David.

The guys I was working with the other day are not mask wearers either.

We went out and grab sandwiches at the local grocery store and people were staring at us like crazy.

And I said to one of the guys that was working with us, I feel like a Jewish person in the 1930s. And he said yes, I can kind of understand how they felt now.

The looks we were getting were crazy.

So you folks are more than welcome to worry about the virus, I personally am going to worry about all the other stuff that's going on. --174.198.x.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2020 7:35 PM
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One in six jobs that existed in Feb are not filled now.

I suppose we aim for for one in five.

--24.101.xxx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2020 7:43 PM
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NE, I went to the store today here and almost nobody had mask on except for the workers. --73.120.xx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2020 7:52 PM
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6x6, they're mandatory I'm Pa. --174.198.x.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2020 7:52 PM
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NE: I really think you must have flunked idiot class. what happened & why in 1930s Germany has no similarities to current situation. then: it was to find scapegoats for the defeat ww1 and the repercussions: crippling reparations, loss of land, loss of factories (dismantled & sent to allies) no way for anyone to earn a living and then the great depression. Now is to protect society from a chinese pandemic....similar measures done in 1918 & 1919...you should be happy your (great) / grandparents followed the rules then....ha --107.77.xxx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2020 7:56 PM
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I'm not talking about why they did it. Yes, scapegoat for world war 1.

But the way that they did it is where the similarities are. --174.198.x.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2020 8:08 PM
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end of topic for me. congrats & best wishes to you for the new babe...been there done that. always the most wonderful happening for anyone. // --107.77.xxx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by MikeA [TX]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2020 8:29 PM
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So why weren't masks the thing during flue season? How about SARS or MERS, those both have a higher death rate than the current Pandemic. Oh that's right, the CDC only made the recommendation to wear them in the last three weeks. Prior to that they recommended not wearing them because it could cause a higher transmission rate. Why the change? Some new peer reviewed research? A large scale study that released it's findings? Nope, some experts sitting around a table decide it might be better. That's why they call it a recommendation, there is no peer reviewed research that supports it either way.

And on the death rate, it started off at 7-8%, then was revised down to 3-4%, now seems to be trending to 1.4% with some studies on general population testing revealing a large percentage that never knew they had it and saying it could be as low as .7%. We are now talking numbers now that are not significantly higher than a bad flue year. So, is this the new normal, everyone going to wear a mask from this point forward even after there is a vaccine for Covid? What started off as bend the curve has morphed into so much more.

Sorry, but I don't take a sellers word for how much the property is worth he is trying to unload either, due diligence and I'll make up my own mind. No matter how emphatically he tells me, tries to play to emotions, or gets in my face, pun intended. I realize that some of you don't agree, so do you own due diligence and act accordingly, that's what a free country is about. --50.26.xx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by Hollis [MA]) Posted on: Apr 24, 2020 9:31 AM
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I think because of Georgia's actions, some people are going to say "GOOD FOR GEORGIA" but in a sarcastic way.

--96.236.xxx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by Hollis [MA]) Posted on: Apr 24, 2020 9:50 AM
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And ah,...I think I will listen to the top infectious desase scientist over a few fellow landlords that are constantly singing "Its a Grand Old Flag" while not caring the fact they may be carriers. --96.236.xxx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 24, 2020 9:59 AM
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Be careful in taking advice from anyone who has a vested interest in keeping you sick. --174.198.xx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Apr 24, 2020 10:25 AM
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STAR of David? Man they just called your number the doctor can see you now. The Dr will untie the white jacket when you get inside the security door. Yes he knows its tied in the back for you.

Pmh he didn't flunk- he graduated first in his class. Megan Came Loudly.

I thought I'd heard it all------- dealing with tenants for 30 years but this takes the cake. --99.103.xxx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Apr 24, 2020 11:15 AM
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A couple of years ago, the police department in a certain district of my city wanted landlords to register the tenants and occupants at all of the homes in the district. The letter explained this was to fight crime.

I called the number on the letter that we were supposed to call to register. I had a few questions.

Why was this being done? So we ( police) know who should be in the area.

Was this mandatory.? No, but it to help curb crime.

Was this in relation to an ongoing investigation ( my tenants at that house were no angels..just sayin’ ...) No, just a program to curb crime.

Was this being done in other police districts? No, this is a pilot program to help prevent the spread of crime.

Were owner-occupied persons also being asked to give this information? Yes

What will happen if someone who isn’t from the neighborhood is stopped by police? We’ll know they don’t belong here. ( y’all, dear readers, should be uncomfortable with this by now. If not...)

Will there be any penalties to me as a landlord if I do not give you names of all persons residing in my house? Well, then we’ll... oh, this isn’t mandatory, we’re just doing it for their own good. It’s for their protection.

Why is this being done? It’s for their own good.

Anybody remember learning about how the Germans told the Jewry that registering was for their own good? For their protection.

As you can surmise, I did NOT comply. A week or so later, when I was at that house for maintenance, a couple of neighborhood fellas ( homeowners) I know stopped me and asked if I had received that letter. They said, ‘ What’s next? Is someone sewing stars? ‘ Then they joked for awhile about what should symbolize the people of that community. ( I won’t tell y’all what they said, cuz someone he would surely say Busy is a ____. But, some were pretty funny. And the fellas from the neighborhood were the ones making the suggestions, lol!) The neighbor later told me the plan to register the —- oops, I mean , register the citizenry, was scrapped, in favor of monthly police-community relations meetings. And my neighbor was going to be at all of those meetings. And has been.

Now, about four years later, apparently COVID is heaviest on a certain area of our city. What has been one of the suggestions? Let’s have everybody register....

A postcard I received at my current rehab ( unoccupied) says ‘“...encouraging residents to take the restrictions seriously (repeat violators are subject to arrest)...” from the members of our city’s common council.

It’s all interesting. --70.92.xxx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 24, 2020 11:37 AM
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Myob, similarities. Do you know much of the history surrounding the rise of Nazi ? --174.198.xx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Apr 24, 2020 12:17 PM
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Every heard of a the "boiled frog" technique?

It goes like this....

You start out with a live frog sitting in a sauce pan on the stove filled with room temperature water. The frog is good, the water is good, everything is good.

Then you start gradually increasing the temperature, a few degrees every 5 minutes. The frog feels good. It's a little warm which feels nice. Everything is good.

2 hours later, you have frog soup. What's interesting is the now dead frog never moved the entire time. Why? Because everything was good until it wasn't, but by that time, it was too late. It was such a gradual process, the frog never even noticed how his senses slowly slipped away until he goes to sleep and never wakes up.

I'm not advocating throwing the doors of the economy wide open immediately; a staged approach using common sense and currently available resources would be best.

But I am concerned that "for our own good" and "trust us" is being used too many time and too freely in many cases, and too many people are just going along with it. That's all I've got to say on the topic, so onward now in to other profitable ventures. --107.216.xxx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Apr 24, 2020 12:42 PM
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yes NE. I'm German. My father was German and my grandfather came here to Brooklyn through Ellis Island. My grandfather returned back to Germany in the 30's for a visit. It took him over a year to get back due to the Nazi's. I've heard it all and read until versed. If there was a way we could converse intelligently I'd respond but they name streets after you NE-- they're called one way. No opening in the mind.

One observation: when anything doesn't go the way of the OP'er it reverts to: he's a Nazi, he's a racist he's a xenophobic and every other name. Several posters revert to this talk-- some from out northwest.

So no let's not get into a discussion. This horse has been beaten to death already.

For those out west who understand wildfires-- the big-huge difference in this C19 and flu-- if you can compare what happened in CA last year-- it spreads faster than wild fires and you have no idea your carrying the flame-- until it hits the dry grass-- then it's to late. --99.103.xxx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Apr 24, 2020 1:35 PM
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I think Godwin's Law applies to this thread now.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

Basically, once some fool tries to tie Nazis or Hitler into the discussion, it should be considered dead. :)

- John...

--96.40.xx.xx




OT: Good for Georgia (by J [FL]) Posted on: Apr 24, 2020 7:27 PM
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Yeah this thread has jumped the shark. --72.188.xxx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 24, 2020 7:29 PM
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Apparently not too many history buffs here. --174.198.xx.xxx




OT: Good for Georgia (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Apr 30, 2020 8:33 PM
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Myob,if you’re going to rob a bank,you should wear a Mask,even a used one......,,........charlie --32.214.xxx.xx





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