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How did CV19 REALLY start (by fred [CA]) Mar 17, 2020 10:06 AM
       How did CV19 REALLY start (by plenty [MO]) Mar 17, 2020 10:16 AM
       How did CV19 REALLY start (by NE [PA]) Mar 17, 2020 10:22 AM
       How did CV19 REALLY start (by AllyM [NJ]) Mar 17, 2020 10:23 AM
       How did CV19 REALLY start (by fred [CA]) Mar 17, 2020 10:28 AM
       How did CV19 REALLY start (by NE [PA]) Mar 17, 2020 10:38 AM
       How did CV19 REALLY start (by Barbara [VA]) Mar 17, 2020 10:45 AM
       How did CV19 REALLY start (by Barbara [VA]) Mar 17, 2020 11:11 AM
       How did CV19 REALLY start (by J [FL]) Mar 17, 2020 11:31 AM
       How did CV19 REALLY start (by Steve [MA]) Mar 17, 2020 11:32 AM
       How did CV19 REALLY start (by NE [PA]) Mar 17, 2020 11:39 AM
       How did CV19 REALLY start (by J [FL]) Mar 17, 2020 11:43 AM
       How did CV19 REALLY start (by JB [OR]) Mar 17, 2020 12:03 PM
       How did CV19 REALLY start (by 6x6 [TN]) Mar 17, 2020 12:05 PM
       How did CV19 REALLY start (by NE [PA]) Mar 17, 2020 12:23 PM
       How did CV19 REALLY start (by JKJ [MA]) Mar 17, 2020 12:37 PM
       How did CV19 REALLY start (by Homer [TX]) Mar 17, 2020 12:40 PM
       How did CV19 REALLY start (by myob [GA]) Mar 17, 2020 1:27 PM
       How did CV19 REALLY start (by AllyM [NJ]) Mar 17, 2020 1:45 PM
       How did CV19 REALLY start (by John... [MI]) Mar 17, 2020 1:58 PM
       How did CV19 REALLY start (by JKJ [MA]) Mar 17, 2020 2:09 PM
       How did CV19 REALLY start (by PG [SC]) Mar 17, 2020 2:09 PM
       How did CV19 REALLY start (by JKJ [MA]) Mar 17, 2020 2:10 PM
       How did CV19 REALLY start (by myob [GA]) Mar 17, 2020 3:51 PM
       How did CV19 REALLY start (by JB [OR]) Mar 17, 2020 4:08 PM
       How did CV19 REALLY start (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Mar 17, 2020 4:30 PM
       How did CV19 REALLY start (by Cjo’h [CT]) Mar 17, 2020 6:53 PM
       How did CV19 REALLY start (by Cjo’h [CT]) Mar 17, 2020 6:57 PM
       How did CV19 REALLY start (by Cjo’h [CT]) Mar 17, 2020 7:05 PM
       How did CV19 REALLY start (by JKJ [MA]) Mar 17, 2020 7:06 PM
       How did CV19 REALLY start (by Cjo’h [CT]) Mar 17, 2020 7:13 PM
       How did CV19 REALLY start (by Cjo’h [CT]) Mar 17, 2020 7:28 PM
       How did CV19 REALLY start (by Cjo’h [CT]) Mar 17, 2020 7:33 PM
       How did CV19 REALLY start (by WL [CA]) Mar 17, 2020 8:23 PM
       How did CV19 REALLY start (by NE [PA]) Mar 17, 2020 8:29 PM
       How did CV19 REALLY start (by Pmh [TX]) Mar 17, 2020 9:00 PM
       How did CV19 REALLY start (by myob [GA]) Mar 18, 2020 10:28 AM
       How did CV19 REALLY start (by myob [GA]) Mar 18, 2020 10:30 AM
       How did CV19 REALLY start (by Nicole [PA]) Mar 18, 2020 11:46 AM
       How did CV19 REALLY start (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Mar 19, 2020 12:53 PM
       How did CV19 REALLY start (by John... [MI]) Mar 19, 2020 1:07 PM
       How did CV19 REALLY start (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Mar 19, 2020 1:45 PM
       How did CV19 REALLY start (by Pmh [TX]) Mar 19, 2020 8:26 PM
       How did CV19 REALLY start (by John... [MI]) Mar 19, 2020 9:40 PM
       How did CV19 REALLY start (by 6x6 [TN]) Mar 20, 2020 2:19 PM
       How did CV19 REALLY start (by Cjo’h [CT]) Mar 22, 2020 1:42 AM
       How did CV19 REALLY start (by mike [CA]) Mar 27, 2020 2:45 PM
       How did CV19 REALLY start (by Cjo’h [CT]) Mar 27, 2020 9:34 PM


How did CV19 REALLY start (by fred [CA]) Posted on: Mar 17, 2020 10:06 AM
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There are multiple versions, assumptions, guesses, theories on how the COVID-19 started.

However, does anyone know how it really started? --99.59.x.xxx




How did CV19 REALLY start (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Mar 17, 2020 10:16 AM
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It wasn't a landlord. What the heck... who knows. --99.203.xx.xxx




How did CV19 REALLY start (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Mar 17, 2020 10:22 AM
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Now this is where it gets really fun! No matter what anybody posts here, it's not a verified fact Buy that individual. We either watched it, heard it or read it somewhere.

I was discussing this with my wife the other day. We were separating fact from hype. Fact schools are closed, shelves are empty, businesses slowing down. Hype? A whole bunch of other stuff that we ourselves cannot prove to be true. --174.201.x.xxx




How did CV19 REALLY start (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Mar 17, 2020 10:23 AM
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I have been following this since the start. The first mention was that people were buying wild animal food in a market in Wuhan and people became ill from eating bats. Later there was a scientific statement that the virus does match the virus that is in Horseshoe Bats in China. The other theory is that it escaped from a lab also in Wuhan not far from the live meat store. If the virus was in that lab it's because they have had bad experiences with it before or recently. Experts are saying that the Chinese knew they had a problem in November. Several doctors published the information and were incarcerated where one actually died of the virus. Recently there was an article published by Bloomberg that the Chinese toilets, which are holes in the floor, helped spread the virus. For myself, that's the first thing I thought of as there is virus in feces and urine and diarrhea can be one of the first symptoms. To me the fact that South Korea has so many special labs and protections for people now is that they have been dealing with Chinese viruses all along. If they shared the information it really didn't sink in with our CDC and NIH. The only state in this country that does not have a case is West Virginia, the poorest state in the country. So why do you all think that is? --173.61.xxx.xx




How did CV19 REALLY start (by fred [CA]) Posted on: Mar 17, 2020 10:28 AM
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NE PA,

Ostriches hide their heads in the sand.

Wait till you have a case of a T who won't pay rent, a judge who won't evict or a sheriff who won't do what he is ordered to so.

We will all know about it in a second. --99.59.x.xxx




How did CV19 REALLY start (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Mar 17, 2020 10:38 AM
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Fred, I'm not saying that that is not going to happen. But it doesn't mean that I'm not eventually going to get paid either.

So if the World is truly ending? What are we all doing here?

Watch how fast this turns political. Wait until the pandemic blows over and new legislation comes out. You're going to see some slimy stuff. I guarantee it.

--174.201.x.xxx




How did CV19 REALLY start (by Barbara [VA]) Posted on: Mar 17, 2020 10:45 AM
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I say alien mutation of a virus already in our presense. The aliens are experimenting on us.

And now that I have taken my tinfoil hat off..virus mutation is nothing new. Happens more than we realize and initially it is scary. For example late 70's early 80s the virus that cause disease in cats suddenly mutated and infected dogs (parvo virus). It happens, we get a grip on it and move on. --174.255.xxx.xx




How did CV19 REALLY start (by Barbara [VA]) Posted on: Mar 17, 2020 11:11 AM
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Fine, I will argue Allym...yes, possible for a virus to be in feces and urine. I can not argue that. However your squatting to urinate and deficate theory doesn't hold up. The virus needs to become airborne. In theory A flushing toilet is capable of accomplishing this. However to date there is no evidence of it being excreted thru those means in an amount to be infectious. Squatting to urinate and defecate in a floor toilet/hole/pipe no matter how much diarrhea a person has just isn't going to create the environment to send it airborn. Aside from Facebook I have not read anything from a reputable source to support your theory.

--174.255.xxx.xx




How did CV19 REALLY start (by J [FL]) Posted on: Mar 17, 2020 11:31 AM
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COVID19 has now replaced ESA as the most posted subject line here. --72.188.xxx.xxx




How did CV19 REALLY start (by Steve [MA]) Posted on: Mar 17, 2020 11:32 AM
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I think there is about as much chance of finding the true answer to this as there is to finding Jimmy Hoff's body. The few that might actually know are either dead already or will never admit to what they know. --71.174.xxx.xx




How did CV19 REALLY start (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Mar 17, 2020 11:39 AM
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Yes J! No ESA talk here and the gender confusion pandemic out of the evening news! I see this as GOOD NEWS! --50.107.xxx.xxx




How did CV19 REALLY start (by J [FL]) Posted on: Mar 17, 2020 11:43 AM
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NE I'm so sick of ESA posts this is (almost) a welcome change. --72.188.xxx.xxx




How did CV19 REALLY start (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Mar 17, 2020 12:03 PM
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I believe this was a lab created biochemical creation by the Chinese govt that got away from them. I can't prove it, but it makes a lot of sense. --73.25.xx.xxx




How did CV19 REALLY start (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Mar 17, 2020 12:05 PM
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It is nature and evolution. Maybe the planet is trying to get rid of some of the population, after all, the worst thing that ever happened to the universe is mankind. We destroy everything because we think we know better. It is earth getting it's revenge. --73.120.xx.xxx




How did CV19 REALLY start (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Mar 17, 2020 12:23 PM
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How do I think it really started?

I think it started in a think tank somewhere as a way to manipulate the markets and the minds of the people.

As a way to transfer wealth to the medical industry, reestablish the media as reliable and further our dependence on government.

Oh wait, never mind, wrong forum. --50.107.xxx.xxx




How did CV19 REALLY start (by JKJ [MA]) Posted on: Mar 17, 2020 12:37 PM
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Ally, we’ve gone over and over this. The article you just referenced is inaccurate. It refers to a case in Hong Kong’s Amoy Gardens, it refers to “aerosolized fecal matter from an infected persons diarrhea” Scientists already came to the conclusion that the outbreak of SARS at the Amoy Garden apartments in Hong Kong was due to faulty plumbing, basically broken sewer pipes that allowed sewer gases to be drawn into the apartments when the bathroom vent fan was on. There are many, many articles that support this. Its also worth mentioning that in the article you referenced, the scientists are basically are saying “ it’s worth looking into”, not to mention the article is almost 2 months old when we knew very little about this virus. I’m not sure what your fascination with diarrhea and squat toilets is? --174.192.x.xx




How did CV19 REALLY start (by Homer [TX]) Posted on: Mar 17, 2020 12:40 PM
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My brother in laws sisters husbands cousins aunt , who graduated high school at the top of her class, said it started in a lab in China. I will be referring to it as the China virus from here on out. --66.169.xxx.xxx




How did CV19 REALLY start (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Mar 17, 2020 1:27 PM
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Eating Bats in Wuhan province China 100%. --99.103.xxx.xxx




How did CV19 REALLY start (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Mar 17, 2020 1:45 PM
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I posted an article from Bloomberg news last week about findings of spread from the squat toilets. Today I found an article that conjunctivitis is spreading and some of it is from corona virus in the air. I belong to a bird watching group and a doctor posts on there. He said this morning that virus stays in the air for three hours and the air hand dryer in bathrooms causes it to aerosolize so it can be breathed in. To prevent this from happening again and maybe even the regular flu, I would like to see public bathrooms where the whole room "flushes" with some sort of gas and ultraviolet after each use and locks until clear. --173.61.xxx.xx




How did CV19 REALLY start (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Mar 17, 2020 1:58 PM
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This is one of those posts that some of us just knew was going to be a garbage fire before it even started. :) Seriously -- this thread is worthless. At least mark it OT next time. :)

- John...

--67.209.xxx.xx




How did CV19 REALLY start (by JKJ [MA]) Posted on: Mar 17, 2020 2:09 PM
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John, I agree, that’s 10 minutes of my life I’ll never get back, I wish I didn’t even read it. Dumpster fire is right! --174.196.xxx.xx




How did CV19 REALLY start (by PG [SC]) Posted on: Mar 17, 2020 2:09 PM
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myob I agree maybe I read the same article or a similar one.

And as noted in the article the Chinese gov allows these so called filthy unsanitary open air markets that sell wild animals for personal consumption to people to exist.

I am glad Trump is calling it the Chinese Virus man made or as some have said a creation by the Chinese government.

The out time question is what will the US do about the Chinese.

In time we may see the real cost of all the cheap Chinese goods we in the US and around the world have grown accustomed to. --72.173.xxx.xxx




How did CV19 REALLY start (by JKJ [MA]) Posted on: Mar 17, 2020 2:10 PM
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On the plus side Ally’s bird watching ground has it all figured out ;-) --174.196.xxx.xx




How did CV19 REALLY start (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Mar 17, 2020 3:51 PM
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I didn't want to gross everyone out but I have the video from Wuhan showing the purchase of rats dogs bats snakes etc. etc. and being eaten alive. You all knew it but the brain won't let you comprehend it.

Read the unedited version of the rise and fall of Mao about 900 pages. people were eating tree bark while Mao gave their food to Hungry so he could get the A bomb.

The current president of China-- had his own sister killed by the red brigade and his father was put to hard labor under Mao -- maybe just maybe this will affect his judgement. The chinese have millions of people to spare and they spare none. Mao killed over 50M of his own people-- mostly starved to death. What makes us think things have changed? --99.103.xxx.xxx




How did CV19 REALLY start (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Mar 17, 2020 4:08 PM
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Ozzy Osborne showed us that it wasn't all that smart to eat a live bat, yet some folks never learn. --73.25.xx.xxx




How did CV19 REALLY start (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Posted on: Mar 17, 2020 4:30 PM
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I've started hearing people refer to it as "Kung Flu".

Aren't we supposed to blame everything on the Russians? --108.69.xxx.xxx




How did CV19 REALLY start (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Mar 17, 2020 6:53 PM
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Steve,I’d say poor Jimmy is probably under a 4” slab of concrete in some basement floor.....Charlie.........What’s your take on it? In about 15 minute I’m going to a Irish History Round Table meeting.Hope they didn’t cancel it,It’s frustrating when they do that!...................... --32.214.xxx.xx




How did CV19 REALLY start (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Mar 17, 2020 6:57 PM
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Plenty,You sure you didn’t start some Rumour?I wouldn’t put it past you?...................................Charlie........ --32.214.xxx.xx




How did CV19 REALLY start (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Mar 17, 2020 7:05 PM
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jKj,Happy Belated St.Patrick’s Day...............Charlie........ --32.214.xxx.xx




How did CV19 REALLY start (by JKJ [MA]) Posted on: Mar 17, 2020 7:06 PM
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Charlie, you to my friend. I had some delicious lamb stew for dinner. --174.196.xxx.xx




How did CV19 REALLY start (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Mar 17, 2020 7:13 PM
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Myob,don’t think Bats would be tasty,do you?Even Georgia ............Charlie............. Bats.................. --32.214.xxx.xx




How did CV19 REALLY start (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Mar 17, 2020 7:28 PM
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JKj,that sounds good,Wish you were closerI would invite myself overI’m sure there’s enough for every one.Hope they don’t have Corned Beef at the Round Table thing..........charlie.........First time I heard of Corned beef was in West Haven Connecticut,never heard of it back in Derry?Nor did Timmy and Mike back in Clare................ --32.214.xxx.xx




How did CV19 REALLY start (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Mar 17, 2020 7:33 PM
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Although,Corned Beef,when cooked properly.,Doesn’t taste half bad! --32.214.xxx.xx




How did CV19 REALLY start (by WL [CA]) Posted on: Mar 17, 2020 8:23 PM
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The Coronavirus Hoax by Dr Ron Paul

... On Face the Nation, Fauci did his best to further damage an already tanking economy by stating, “Right now, personally, myself, I wouldn’t go to a restaurant.” He has pushed for closing the entire country down for 14 days.

Over what? A virus that has thus far killed just over 5,000 worldwide and less than 100 in the United States? By contrast, tuberculosis, an old disease not much discussed these days, killed nearly 1.6 million people in 2017. Where’s the panic over this?

Google for full article --201.140.xxx.xx




How did CV19 REALLY start (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Mar 17, 2020 8:29 PM
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WL, ya don't say? Who'd a thunk it? --50.107.xxx.xxx




How did CV19 REALLY start (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Mar 17, 2020 9:00 PM
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started again in a country where people eat rats, bats & monkeys. lesson to be learned: don’t eat rats, bats & monkeys. --107.77.xxx.xx




How did CV19 REALLY start (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Mar 18, 2020 10:28 AM
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here's another-- thinking out of the box type reason. The germs and virus come from outer space. Particles that enter the upper atmosphere. (asteroids or shooting stars or just space duct) As they (the particles) settle into the outer limits of our BLUE bubble they drift down--UNTIL THEY HIT THE HIMALAYAN MOUNTAINS. Where the wind vortexes tumble them down to earth in China farmland. From there it's absorbed into food, soil and animals on the ground. (have you seen pictures of how the winds hit the tops of those mountains?)

They got here somehow???? you gotta a better clue? --99.103.xxx.xxx




How did CV19 REALLY start (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Mar 18, 2020 10:30 AM
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I forgot about the virus from MX in 2008 -- N1. Keep in mind 165M years a go a huge asteroid hit the earth around the Yucatan area-- that spread debri all over MX and south america. --99.103.xxx.xxx




How did CV19 REALLY start (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Mar 18, 2020 11:46 AM
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this is way too much for my feeble brain. I'm going to have lunch and take a nap. --72.70.xxx.xxx




How did CV19 REALLY start (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Mar 19, 2020 12:53 PM
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I am just waiting for the Corona virus is my ESA conversation --24.101.xxx.xx




How did CV19 REALLY start (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Mar 19, 2020 1:07 PM
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It's not just "rats, bats, and monkeys" then, is it?

I mean, really, if you seriously want to see these sorts of things reduced in the future -- STOP EATING MEAT.

There, I said it. A LOT of previous outbreaks like this can be traced back to someone eating an animal. Sometimes it is something weird (to US) -- other times, it is something "normal" (to US -- like a pig).

Reducing meat intake around the world would likely significantly reduce these sorts of outbreaks.

But people don't want to hear that. They want to call those other people crazy as if they are eating bats all day long. Or blame meteors from outer space. It's just easier that way so that we aren't blaming ourselves. Cognitive dissonance.

- John...

--67.209.xxx.xx




How did CV19 REALLY start (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Mar 19, 2020 1:45 PM
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Tonight on Ancient Aliens ...... --24.101.xxx.xx




How did CV19 REALLY start (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Mar 19, 2020 8:26 PM
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well, you have a point John. there was the mad cow disease. what other time in 2,000 years was there a problem eating “domesticated” meat ? On the other hand, besides the plagues brought on by fleas (also originated in China) all recent plagues have been originated from eating wild animals in...China..... --107.77.xxx.xxx




How did CV19 REALLY start (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Mar 19, 2020 9:40 PM
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How do you figure that "all recent plagues" have been from eating wild animals in China exactly?

Ebola comes to mind. We've had several outbreaks of it. The most recent two started in Sudan and the Congo, not China.

Do you count Cholera as a recent plague? We've had several outbreaks of that in the past 5 years or so. Most recently in Yemen. That's in Asia, but Arabian, not Chinese.

How about Yellow Fever in 2016? That one originated in Africa.

Before that in 2013-2015 we had another Ebola outbreak. Killed over 10,000 people. Originated in West Africa, not China.

How about Swine Flu? That's the big one. Killed at least 150,000 and probably half a million in the end. You know who gets credit as the source for that one? The good, ol' USA. (Or, at least, somewhere here in North America.) It's likely from a mix of flu viruses that crossed together here, not China.

That's the big one from the last decade or two. And those others are the ones big enough that people tend to recognize them. None of those came from China. So why are you blaming China for "all recent plagues"?

--96.40.xx.xx




How did CV19 REALLY start (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Mar 20, 2020 2:19 PM
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There are a lot of people who die of cancer as well. If I understand correctly, from what I heard years ago, cancer is in the blood. If you eat meat then you are eating the blood. Pork is supposed to be the worst to eat. --73.120.xx.xxx




How did CV19 REALLY start (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Mar 22, 2020 1:42 AM
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When theCoronavirus ends something else. will come into the picture,who knows what?Just have to wait and see..............Charlie.......... --32.214.xxx.xx




How did CV19 REALLY start (by mike [CA]) Posted on: Mar 27, 2020 2:45 PM
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the theory is it is from chinese "wet" markets where that stack animals cages five high and marinate them in their own poo. if you wanted to develop a virus that would be a GREAT way to do it. i also strongly suspect it comes from uranus --66.27.xxx.xxx




How did CV19 REALLY start (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Mar 27, 2020 9:34 PM
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Fred,don’t know where it came from,but it sure is going to play Heck with a lot of people’s finances and the Worlds Economies More than we’ll ever know...........,charlie............. --32.214.xxx.xx





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