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I hope I'm wrong. --70.178.x.xx

As myob always says, “ the more they want the keys, the harder you need to hold onto them!” What did her previous LL’s say about her “attitude”? I have a feeling this is just the beginning of you dealing with a very difficult tenant, she’s only going get worse. --174.192.xx.xxx

So frustrating when we try to help unappreciative people. --23.121.xx.xxx

This one is not going to go well... --107.216.xxx.xxx

Not looking to offend in this just observing. --99.103.xxx.xxx

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Very strange behavior. Don't be surprised if she has a drug addiction. --24.20.xxx.xxx

It's about attitude and can apply to anyone. --23.121.xx.xxx

Richard MI I figured as much. --99.103.xxx.xxx

Seriously??? Myob you and WMH need to quit trying to read racism into every comment. This is getting ridiculous. --24.20.xxx.xxx

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If you all can't step back and see it-- well I or WMH pointing it out won't matter. Many are sitting back now saying "I ain't touching that with a ten foot pole". You see it or you don't. --99.103.xxx.xxx

shield IL your original post stands-- adding or deleting is to late now. I'm not sure how long you've been in business but WOW. My gosh. --99.103.xxx.xxx

Maybe you are the one who needs to step back and look at what you have written. --24.20.xxx.xxx

But then again I don't see racism in every other comment... --24.20.xxx.xxx

Look for trouble and you'll find it. --184.53.x.xxx

If she had been white would you have described her as an old woman or an old white woman? If you would have said old white woman, drop the color description since it doesn’t matter. If you would have said old woman without the word white, then it might be time for some self-reflection. Jody Picoult has a book called small great things which is very thought provoking and eye opening on the subject of racism. --24.61.xxx.xx

The bottom line is you are probably going to have a hard time with her. But time will tell. Be pleasantly surprised if she is a sweet lady who was just having a bad day. We all do at times. --71.217.xxx.xxx

Still Learning the fact is she used "black old women" fact is she described how she "shuffled her feet". Don't know about there in NH but here we say old lady / old man. No need for color description. In shields post at 106 pm--- you didn't pick up on that? Making light of her comments previously? Deflecting to disability justice? comon! --99.103.xxx.xxx

OP is Triplexer under another name. --66.128.xx.xxx

Myob, your comment is exactly why you are the one projecting race into where it doesn't belong. I just gave you a perfect example of why it doesn't matter, but in your twisted way of turning it into a race issue you have decided you will treat people differently because of their race... exactly the opposite of what we as LLs are supposed to do. --24.20.xxx.xxx

Wow, a lot denouncing of white privilege on this post. How "woke" this audience has become. --108.69.xxx.xxx

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I'm trying to have an honest discussion on how your vib is felt in housing. No blame game just honest words. We also only have what the OP has posted-- lets hear from the applicant. Thats a story I'd like cause there's more here and only one sided. --99.103.xxx.xxx

I don’t see this as being a long relationship. Keep us posted as things progress . --99.23.xxx.x

As an immigrant from Northern Ireland most of you here in the Colonies have. no idea what racism is.but for the proper number of quid,deposited in a local bank in the suburbs of New Haven or even West. Haven I’ll tell you.But it has to be a certain amount,otherwise NO DEAL!...........Charlie.................................................An. Dugan Tu?.......... --32.214.xxx.xx

An Dig gan tu?Sin E!.......... Charlie............. --32.214.xxx.xx

Sad as a bloodhound, nothing derogatory about that ,I think that’s a good definition, don’t you?Miss Ally,” Celt “.We can both add to to ourDEA,without fear of contradiction!..............Charlie........................ --32.214.xxx.xx

I also think this is going to be bad before xmas spending ruins -her house-, I hope you have a very good understanding of the housing court process and can get this -queen- out in less than 2 months of lost rent., I have popcorn who is getting the fruit drinks? --76.188.xxx.xx

Reminds me when I asked my future tenant about his bandaged hand at lease signing. He had got mad and punched a water heater, he said.. Yes, he was a bad angry tenant. --67.41.xx.xx

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I don't know how to interpret the tenant's behavior. If a new tenant said something like that to me, I would certainly be shocked. It might or might not be caused by the OP's behavior. But the racism of the OP's post is not at all subtle. --73.231.xxx.xxx

I am black. When I read the post, I was taken aback by the black description and wondered why it was needed b/c all races have old women in them. Using the word Black seemed to denote something exclusive to that race and the writer wanted the readers to "get it". AllyM pointed it out so clearly by saying, "If he had just mentioned "elderly woman" we would not get the full brunt of his account." What account is that, AllyM? I disagree with shuffling being racist b.c all old people tend to shuffle as they age. Being in the south, I see this description all the time from both white and black. They all seem to lead with the person's race to describe the person before they state what happened. If they don't, the person listening will ask, "Where they white or black?" Even in the news. White Charleston murderer entered into an all black church etc. So, to highlight what MYOB and WMH said, if you use the person's race to highlight a common event, it's racist. Is it plausible that what the poster described could have come from a white, asian, mexican, green, old woman? I have white tenants and try to treat them like people. However, when they throw off bad clues, they are gone. I would have torn up the lease because this PERSON exhibited behaviour I would not tolerate. Racism is real. White privelege is real. The times are changing and I am hopeful. Sign off by a very proud black woman! --47.38.xx.xxx

AllyM, do you know something we don't? I didn't get she was poor or underserved from the post. Using the word BLACK allowed her to rain in all the negative stereotypes even when there wasn't any evidence of this. This is what she meant by "full brunt." This is why MYOB, WHM and myself are calling you and the others out. Who's being racist here when by simply using the word black conjures up negative stereotypes? --47.38.xx.xxx

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I think “black” should have been left out of the OP description. Had the OP said an older woman instead, the story would be the same. with the exception that we would be focusing on the actions and behavior of the tenant. But because the OP felt that they needed to let us know it was a “black woman’ the other comments seem laced with racism. My earlier comments stand, I think this is the beginning of the OP dealing with a difficult tenant. As to whether that’s due to the tenants attitude, or vibes she picked up from the OP, that I can’t speculate on, only the tenant and OP can answer that. --174.242.xx.xxx

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Racism is ugly but so is self-righteous scolding. Please give it a rest. --98.146.xxx.xxx

AL, NC, you describe yourself as a Black woman. And you are describing me as a racist. I never was and I still am not though I have had some terrible experience with Black folk who hate whites. One incident included a co worker putting her husband's heart medicine in my open coffee cup in my office. On the way home that night I started to pass out but was in a supermarket, not driving, when the medication kicked in. Fortunately that feeling passed and I could drive home. I found out the next day that the co worker wanted to have a Tupper Ware party in the office at lunch time and wanted me to be home sick so she could do that. We were a department in a large company that hosted important business contacts so such things were not allowed. The bigger boss was taking a vacation day and she wanted to get rid of me too. I heard her talking about it down the hall next morning saying "How come she ain't sick etc....". So just what do you think is going to happen nationally to our society to end racism and the hard work you call "white privilege"? I was told by a Black woman who shared an office with me that "When the Revolution comes and White people are sent to Hell" that she was going to lift me up because I was a "good Person". She was a Black Muslim. Fortunately there was no revolution. I wasn't born yesterday. I am 73 and had to go through a lot of crap due to Black attitudes toward me and other white people. We all need to talk about this because it's own there. Watch you back. --173.61.xxx.xx

Myob: Go sell your white privilege BS somewhere else, we're not buying it here --149.136.xx.xxx

Myob: Go sell your white privilege BS somewhere else, we're not buying it here --149.136.xx.xxx

Oh boy, now it’s getting ugly! --72.93.xxx.xx

I believe I'll have my toast with honey. --204.210.xxx.xxx

When b Shield wrote 'an elderly black woman---- I knew that Shield was a younger white woman. I did not think of racism. If this black woman were the landlord she would have described shield as a younger white woman. The white woman would not say a white woman was eager to rent. The black woman would not have said a black woman was eager to rent.Each of them would have omitted the color. --68.32.xxx.xxx

AllyM, have you ever been hurt/harmed by anyone of your own race? If the answer is yes(and if you are honest, it will be yes) then what was the purpose of your reply? In this life, you will have tribulations. The Bible does not say they will all come from none white people. So recount all the hurts in your life instead of singling out your black upsets. I love you and will end my contribution to this thread by saying when the rental situation goes bad, I hope it's not because she was an old black woman. Landlord on! Goodnight! --47.38.xx.xxx

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Like I said previously,none of you Yanks have any idea what predudice is ................................Charlie................... --32.214.xxx.xx

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There are housing laws against discrimination /racist advertising. You do not have to be aware of your racist behavior or need to believe it was racist to be convicted. Sometimes you just can't help stupid. --108.56.xxx.xx

Joe CA thank you for putting me in my place and 2 x's. (your now at 10 posts) your the best. You have brought the adult into this conversation. --99.103.xxx.xxx

You know what, from now on I'll just say Tenant. You can picture in your mind any creed shape or person you like. Whatever that person looks like that pops into your mind, will let you know your own bigotries. --75.35.xxx.xxx

Shield’s, probably the smartest thing you’ve said, now quit while you’re ahead. --174.242.xx.xx

SO step carefully, my friend, with this. Try to win her over. --50.82.xxx.xx

Myob, ive been around this place a lot longer than you think my friend. Did you end up stiffing all of the banks after the 2008 recession? I do remember you saying you were going to hand the keys back on dozens of your houses. Is that what you did? You should save the self righteous preaching --149.136.xx.xxx

I think what we are really dealing with here is a typical case of "hate whitey". I think that is why shield brought up her race. That is how I perceive it anyways. Any of you ever look up the "knockout game"? I get the hate whitey crap from blacks a lot in my hood. It's a harsh reality, and an observation from decades in the trenches. Stereotypes exist for a reason. And for this preaching about white privilege, you do realize that by using that term you yourself are being racist against white folks? I'm off my soapbox now, carry on. --149.136.xx.xxx

Try to win her over, very funny. I think he should give her her walking papers as soon as possible and be done with her. --149.136.xx.xxx

If there is anyone interested in the 08 foreclosure issues and what we did to save our company and others I would be glad to go over it. Joe one last item: we saved our company without even declaring BK. --99.103.xxx.xxx

Would you like a goldstar my friend MYOB? So it looks like you indeed stiffed all of those banks. Now that your company is doing good, did you ever think about paying that money back? And you're going to preach to all of us here? LOL, that takes some nerve --149.136.xx.xxx

You mean asked to pay the money back that you borrowed? You certainly have a way with words my friend. --149.136.xx.xxx

OH MY GOD, ENOUGH. this was about how a new tenant talked to her new LL. Some felt that because of the “Black woman” comment it may have been from real or perceived racism. Shields, learn from that, whether you meant to be racist or not, learn that you should be careful how you describe people. Not because a bunch of strangers on the internet may think your racist, but because your tenant MAY think your racist. You don’t want that, I’m sure of that much!! It can lead to legal trouble, a disgruntled tenant, more frequent turnovers, etc etc. so learn from the lesson here. As to everything, and everyone else, this is getting way out of hand. Come on people, we’re adults here. Everyone here should know that everyone isn’t always going to agree with you, and your NOT always going to be right. Move on from this, I’ve been here long enough to know you ALL are better than the name calling and insult tossing that’s going on here now. That’s it I’m done, I’m off my soap box. --72.93.xxx.xx

There is nothing for shield to learn, he came here with an honest question and a bunch of self righteous social justice warriors attacked him for daring to describe the race of the woman. Get a clue folks, it's not racism on his part, but the tenant surely does sound racist. Again: NOTHING for shield to learn except that there are a bunch of thin skinned whiners and victims here who will attack him for it. --149.136.xx.xxx

Joe you really believe that. Let me put it this way. Shields described the new tenant, the description lead some to believe it was a racist comment, others felt it was harmless. Of the people that felt it was racial there were at least those that are white, and some that were black, then there’s the 1’s who’s race is unknown. Now if that description lead people on here to think it may have been racial, (whether real or perceived), there’s a good chance that the possibility of 1 of Shields tenants may also think that Shields is racist, ( again, real or perceived). You don’t think there’s a lesson there, that 1 needs to, more than ever, be cautious of how they present themselves? I’m only saying that if some strangers on the internet came to the conclusion that Shields could possibly be, or is racist, then so could his/her tenants. That’s 1 thing I know for sure, they don’t want to deal with racial accusations from tenants. So my point of a “lesson to be learned” is, be cautious using race as a description, especially in regards to tenants, it may lead to accusations of racism, real or perceived, and that’s not something any LL wants. --174.242.xx.xx

So myob, now you may have two more ways to hate anyone who you come across in your travels. --24.20.xxx.xxx

JKJ, you are making a mountain out of a molehill. Let it go for your own sense of sanity --76.105.x.xxx

Uhmm NO, unfortunately the racism is not on Shields end here. Looks like he/she was the victim of anti-white racism to me anyways. In spite of what the race bating newspaper owning tribe will tell you. And in spite of what the race baiting trolls on MRLL say --76.105.x.xxx

I’m making a mountain out of a molehill, I think you have that backwards! EVERYONE HERE ARGUING is making a mountain out of a molehill! My only input in this whole thing was after I first read the post to say, “this is just the beginning of dealing with a difficult tenant, she’s only gonna get worse”. Then to say enough and suggested Shields learn from everything that’s going on here. You know what I see when I read all these last posts a bunch of adults crying because they have to be right. BWAAA HA HAAA, IM RIGHT! ITS RACISM, BWAA HA HAA, NO ITS NOT, IM RIGHT! That’s what I see. WHO CARES, if you think it was racist! WHO CARES, if you think it was harmless! --174.242.xx.xx

I am sorry this post went in a direction you probably didn't see coming. We are supposed to be helping each other out, not bickering. Not sure if your new to this board, but if so please don't judge us on this post. Yes we get into argument's from time to time, but this level isn't the norm. --174.255.xxx.xx

Well said Barbara, hopefully the voices of reason will be heard and get this thread back in a direction that offers advice to the OP. --174.242.xx.xx

From reading here for years it wasn't that unexpected to see from some. (some posts from names I've never seen before) I think we have seen it? You just don't know who you are and THAT IS THE PROBLEM. Until you see it in what your doing! --99.103.xxx.xxx

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And I think that Laura nailed it any needs to take a look in the mirror. --24.20.xxx.xxx

You really need to keep on top of this but I am sure you will. I hope it works out but, evict if needed. --73.120.xx.xxx

Other times when a "down on your luck" kind of applicants get the good news, they qualify for the rental -- their response is similar to your renter, like maybe I'll take it or not? Like I"m going to wait for them? --47.156.xxx.xxx

Curious for a status update.... did she pay rent today? --107.77.xxx.xxx

6x6, all good questions! --50.82.xxx.xx

Thank you WMH --73.120.xx.xxx