Where R the gurus now? (by Roy [AL]) Sep 12, 2019 10:55 AM|
Where R the gurus now? (by WMH [NC]) Sep 12, 2019 11:00 AM
Where R the gurus now? (by S i d [MO]) Sep 12, 2019 11:26 AM
Where R the gurus now? (by Richard [MI]) Sep 12, 2019 11:35 AM
Where R the gurus now? (by NE [PA]) Sep 12, 2019 11:40 AM
Where R the gurus now? (by Roy [AL]) Sep 12, 2019 11:40 AM
Where R the gurus now? (by JB [OR]) Sep 12, 2019 11:42 AM
Where R the gurus now? (by JB [OR]) Sep 12, 2019 11:49 AM
Where R the gurus now? (by Roy [AL]) Sep 12, 2019 11:57 AM
Where R the gurus now? (by S i d [MO]) Sep 12, 2019 11:59 AM
Where R the gurus now? (by Hoosier [IN]) Sep 12, 2019 12:02 PM
Where R the gurus now? (by Roy [AL]) Sep 12, 2019 12:15 PM
Where R the gurus now? (by S i d [MO]) Sep 12, 2019 12:33 PM
Where R the gurus now? (by Ken [NY]) Sep 12, 2019 12:35 PM
Where R the gurus now? (by Deanna [TX]) Sep 12, 2019 1:36 PM
Where R the gurus now? (by Adele [FL]) Sep 12, 2019 1:47 PM
Where R the gurus now? (by Barb [MO]) Sep 12, 2019 2:26 PM
Where R the gurus now? (by Robert J [CA]) Sep 12, 2019 2:38 PM
Where R the gurus now? (by Vee [OH]) Sep 12, 2019 3:00 PM
Where R the gurus now? (by Live The Dream [AZ]) Sep 12, 2019 3:02 PM
Where R the gurus now? (by Live The Dream [AZ]) Sep 12, 2019 3:53 PM
Where R the gurus now? (by Blue [IL]) Sep 12, 2019 4:25 PM
Where R the gurus now? (by tryan [MA]) Sep 12, 2019 4:26 PM
Where R the gurus now? (by Live The Dream [AZ]) Sep 12, 2019 4:32 PM
Where R the gurus now? (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Sep 12, 2019 4:54 PM
Where R the gurus now? (by Roy [AL]) Sep 12, 2019 5:04 PM
Where R the gurus now? (by Ken [NY]) Sep 12, 2019 5:29 PM
Where R the gurus now? (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Sep 12, 2019 5:43 PM
Where R the gurus now? (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Sep 12, 2019 7:12 PM
Where R the gurus now? (by Smokowna [MD]) Sep 12, 2019 11:47 PM
Where R the gurus now? (by cjo’h [CT]) Sep 13, 2019 4:03 AM
Where R the gurus now? (by cjo’h [CT]) Sep 13, 2019 4:30 AM
Where R the gurus now? (by Frank [KS]) Sep 13, 2019 7:04 AM
Where R the gurus now? (by myob [GA]) Sep 13, 2019 7:20 AM
Where R the gurus now? (by cjo’h [CT]) Sep 13, 2019 3:54 PM
Where R the gurus now? (by cjo’h [CT]) Sep 13, 2019 4:03 PM
Where R the gurus now? (by cjo’h [CT]) Sep 13, 2019 4:16 PM
Where R the gurus now? (by Live The Dream [AZ]) Sep 13, 2019 6:05 PM
Where R the gurus now? (by cjo’h [CT]) Sep 13, 2019 6:29 PM
Where R the gurus now? (by Chris [CT]) Sep 24, 2019 4:30 PM
Where R the gurus now? (by cjo’h [CT]) Sep 25, 2019 3:07 AM
Where R the gurus now? (by RentsDue [MA]) Sep 25, 2019 7:11 AM
Where R the gurus now? (by WL [CA]) Sep 25, 2019 1:26 PM
Where R the gurus now? (by WL [CA]) Sep 25, 2019 1:28 PM
Where R the gurus now? (by Cjo’h [CT]) Sep 26, 2019 11:18 PM
Where R the gurus now? (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2019 10:55 AM
When I first started in this business (2005), late night TV was flooded with Ads from RE guru's/hucksters promoting their "No Money Down" get rich schemes. Where have all of these late night RE hucksters gone to? Does anyone remember Carlton Sheets? Did anyone here buy his package?
Remember the TV show where Armando Montelongo was the big flipping star? This guy was my favorite even though he was full of B.S.
My real question is this: What has happened in the overall RE market to make 'No Money Down' advertising not appealing anymore?
Where R the gurus now? (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2019 11:00 AM
I say 2008 happened. Isn't that when things went bust? I forget, sometime around then anyway? --50.82.xxx.xx
Where R the gurus now? (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2019 11:26 AM
I've got some tapes from 1998, if you're interested. Special price of $2,995 today only. But wait! There's more.... --107.216.xxx.xxx
Where R the gurus now? (by Richard [MI]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2019 11:35 AM
I got his early stuff. Even met him before. A lot of the guru's have come and gone.
I think either they make enough to "retire" or they have their year or two and fade out.
For a while, once the flip this house craze ran on TV, almost all of them made the circuit. Weather it was planned by the TV people (I suspect it was) or not, they had a beginning, a high spot, and then faded, to be replaced by this year's new and improved model. Or their "new" direction (Ron Legrand did this a number of times).
The thing I got from it all was this: one good idea could pay for it. I just passed on the coaching, being partners, etc. A couple hundred is one thing, 15-30k is another.
Some things I realized: if you don't keep at it, nothing gets finished. Most people I know who failed just did not keep going. Also, you have to adapt to where you are, what you have to work with and your skills. --23.121.xx.xxx
Where R the gurus now? (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2019 11:40 AM
Where R the gurus now? (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2019 11:40 AM
Yes, the market crashed badly in 2008 and has since recovered. But again, why is no one promoting the virtues of 'No-Money Down' investing anymore? Remember the TV ads that said 'No Money Down" and you can even get money back at closing?
Where R the gurus now? (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2019 11:42 AM
Many of the original gurus are dead... some are likely retired and living off $ from all the programs they sold.
Robert Allen went on to writing books about beating the stock market.
I too have many VHS tapes I would be willing to to make someone a deal on. --24.20.xxx.xxx
Where R the gurus now? (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2019 11:49 AM
Locally here now the gurus selling the RE programs rotate back and forth from Than Merrill to Robert Kiyosaki. And for about $30k each they will teach you too. --24.20.xxx.xxx
Where R the gurus now? (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2019 11:57 AM
Back in 2005, someone gave me the entire Carlton Sheet cassette tape 'package'. It had like 10 cassette tapes in it and I listened to most of them. Carlton Sheet's idea of using Other People's Money (OPM) was actually nothing more than using your own credit card to make a down-payment with. Using your own credit card? Where is the "No Money Down' part here? --68.63.xxx.xxx
Where R the gurus now? (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2019 11:59 AM
Roy, you and I should team up and create a new guru show. We could call it "Hicks 'n Hollers: Making Millions in Real Estate While Drinking Coors (Banquet)."
Some of my 2-minute in home inspections would make for some interesting TV! --107.216.xxx.xxx
Where R the gurus now? (by Hoosier [IN]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2019 12:02 PM
I always wanted to ask these people....
So if flipping houses is so easy and profitable, why are you selling tapes and books instead of doing it?
So if the price of gold "could go sky high", why are you selling it to me now for this price?
And so on.... --99.92.xxx.xxx
Where R the gurus now? (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2019 12:15 PM
I do think the current RE market is 'ripe' for another series of RE guru's.
I think you should get on TV and start promoting 'Debt-Free RE Investing'. Kiss old fashioned leverage good-bye, cash in those blue-chip stocks and use the money to buy income producing shacks with! (That is how I did it). --68.63.xxx.xxx
Where R the gurus now? (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2019 12:33 PM
Roy, hah! Now THAT would be a unique show. Debt-free real estate investing... Not sure I've ever seen that before.
Btw, I am presently in negotiations to pull off a strategy we chatted about several years ago. Got a package of houses I'm wanting. Strategy is to lock them up under contract then sell all but one of them I want to keep for myself to other investors. Just gotta get to that magic price of about $4,000 off per unit, and I can keep the one I want debt free! --107.216.xxx.xxx
Where R the gurus now? (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2019 12:35 PM
JB and I must live in the same circuit route because we get those 2 here regularly along with several others,usually every 6 weeks or so and I hear ads on tv to come to there seminar --72.231.xxx.xxx
Where R the gurus now? (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2019 1:36 PM
The last guru on my radar seemed to make his money from loaning money to everyone who signed up for his program. "We'll help you find houses in your area, and then we'll loan you the money to invest in them!" The theory being, of course, that if the loan failed to be paid off, they'd have a freshly-renovated house to foreclose on. And if it was successful, well, they still got x% on their money.
For the most part, though, the commercials I'm hearing tend to be for REIT's, especially for the pay-to-play ones... you join for $x/year, and we'll hook you up with all these awesome opportunities where you'll have the privilege of investing $y. --96.46.xxx.xx
Where R the gurus now? (by Adele [FL]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2019 1:47 PM
Good thread! Thank God they are not on anymore. What hype. Hard work and “stick to it iv ness” is key. It was fun to go to a seminar once just to see what it was about. But then the on going major pitch to hype everyone up for the sale : for “only” $5000.00 I could get hands on training! I say that there are so many channels now, you would have to spend a fortune on air time and may not hit your target audience. Back in the day, there were only 3-6 channels! Otherwise, youtube is the way today, as someone else mentioned. --174.227.x.xxx
Where R the gurus now? (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2019 2:26 PM
The old gurus are retired off the money they snookered from people who paid to see them.
Now, there is a new set of them making the rounds based on the HGTV shows. They've been advertising on the TV in the mornings. They do a teaser free session where they then have a 2 hour infomercial to sell you the weekend session for big bucks. --64.251.xxx.xxx
Where R the gurus now? (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2019 2:38 PM
I personally went to many "gurus" free seminars hoping to learn something new to add to my knowledge of real estate. A few had some good tips to share. Most were there to sell their books or expensive training courses.
I took the telephone numbers of others there and kept in touch over the years, wanting to see how successful they became.
Unfortunately those who went into debt to finance the down payment, ended up losing their shirts.
I personally know several "gurus" in my local area. They first became investors and after achieving much success, decided to share their knowledge with others.
One of them have flipped over 100 properties. Another purchased a failed development of 34 developed lots. Over time he would build a spec. home and sell it, making enough money to build another two homes. He ended up making 10M. --47.156.xx.xx
Where R the gurus now? (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2019 3:00 PM
I had the tapes in 2000, they started getting raggedy so I made set of cd from them. There is another wave of genius coming along - one in Cleveland called Holton Wise is already selling video from evictions, claiming they will prevent this from occurring. Always another circus coming to town.... --76.188.xxx.xx
Where R the gurus now? (by Live The Dream [AZ]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2019 3:02 PM
Roy - LOL - Yes, I was a disciple of Carlton Sheets. I was living a nice quiet life on the beach in Key West when Carlton came on late night TV and told me I could buy houses for... Nothing Down! That sounded pretty good to me.
I sent in my $99 or whatever, studied hard, I STILL have the book and tapes, moved to Ft. Lauderdale and by darn I bought a waterfront house off the intercoastal waterway for... nothing down! I rented the two extra bedrooms and lived nearly free. In 6 mos I had 6 more rentals and was about halfway to a "gross" worth of a million bucks. My net equity was about $100. I had about 8 grand a month going through my bank account, between rent and my job. 14% interest in the '80's seemed perfectly normal, since it had been 20%. I bought a boat and a brand new truck!
Luckily I was young and could work my job all day and fix rentals until midnight. After about a year of this I realized that if I got caught with several empty units I would be in deep doo-doo, and I was a free property manager for the bank and would be for the next 30 years, and that I lived a half mile from the ocean and hadn't been to the beach in months! I also overpaid for everything. But hey, Nothing Down!
Within 6 months I dumped everything on new suckers, err I mean disciples for... Nothing Down, moved onto the boat, went sailing to the islands for a few months, and more or less lived happily ever after. :D
Where R the gurus now? (by Live The Dream [AZ]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2019 3:53 PM
My main mentor was Marshall Reddick. I don't think of him as a "Guru," but as an educator. At his peak he had over a thousand properties. I met him around '92 when he was teaching college and was a guest speaker at a real estate club with about 25 people. He started his "network" soon after. Back in those days he either gave his materials away or for a few bucks to cover printing. I still have a bunch in a box somewhere.
I liked his style and started attending his club meetings. I was in my heyday as a photojournalist and being an E list celebrity, so didn't have much time for RE. I bought my beach house a couple years later using his foreclosure ideas, and ran it by him first. He made me two million dollars!
I never actually bought anything through the network, but I attended meetings for 20 years, through the frenzied times with 300 people at meetings and standing 4 deep at tables in the back of the room buying houses sight unseen, six states away, and arranging "no doc" loans. That's how I got financed to start my flipping business in 2004. No job, a 200 credit score, huge debt, No Docs, and Nooo problem!
"Hey here's the perfect applicant, give 'em a million bucks to speculate in a super risky business!" What could possibly go wrong? I'm surprised the money didn't come in a briefcase in unmarked bills. (Of course they would have taken my house if I had defaulted.)
And, sadly, I was there after the crash, around 2010, at the last meeting, in a room at the San Diego realty board. People were going broke across the country, Marshall was being sued left and right by angry investors who's bubble burst. His beautiful office building was in foreclosure. Everyone, Marshall included, thought the paradigm had changed and RE would double every 5-7 years forever. They were wrong. I was mostly in cash, and the banks were failing.
There was only a handful of us left, maybe six or eight people. Gone were the days of loudspeakers and microphones, and hundreds of giddy people all clamoring to get rich. Marshal drove up in his mini van. Didn't unload his usual cart of stuff. He just came in and sat on the table and said, "I laid off the staff and filed bankruptcy today." We all cried together.
Like many people he lost a lot of properties, including "my" condo on Maui. He used to rent his two bdrm oceanfront condo to club members for $69 a night. I sure miss those trips. He must be in his late 70's now. I lost touch when we moved to AZ, but he saved some of his properties and I saw he sold his operation to a couple of young fellows a few years ago who are carrying on his work to some extent.
Where R the gurus now? (by Blue [IL]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2019 4:25 PM
There are still a few around. And there are a couple of the real deals. Ron LeGrand is the true guru on the mountaintop who sometimes forgets (I think) that those of us still on the path can only see what is just ahead.
IMO, if you only learn 1 thing it’s time well spent.
I love Vena Cox Jones. She is DOING IT. --99.203.xx.xx
Where R the gurus now? (by tryan [MA]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2019 4:26 PM
Geez .... tough to follow LTD ... BUT
How many got Mark Haroldson's Financial Freedom Report? The time frame was ~1988-1995. I would read that thing from COVER TO COVER every time it came in the door. And - of course - there were the books and tapes.
When swimming against the tide it helps to stay focused ... Haroldson helped. --198.168.xx.xxx
Where R the gurus now? (by Live The Dream [AZ]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2019 4:32 PM
Remember him? Armando Montelongo,the flashy kid from Texas? He actually lived down the beach from me a few miles after he became a TV star.
When I was flipping houses I hired a young man who wanted to get into real estate. He worked his butt off and I taught him what I could. Armando was his hero. One day he scored tickets to Armando's "event" at the Huntington Beach Hilton and invited me to go.
I was pretty excited too, Armando was going to be there and we would learn all his "secrets." So off we went down the yellow brick road by the ocean to HB. Parking was jammed and I still had press license plates so we parked in a red zone right in front. (Press photographer plates don't make you exempt from anything but most security and cops thought they were some kind of special government plate so nobody ever bothered me. Plus I had a black Crown Vic at the time that kind of completed the image.)
Entering we got a free bottle of water, and listened to the slick black haired warm up guy in his skarkskin suit tell us how rich we were all gonna be. He passed the mic to a couple of other sharks that had been circling the audience of several hundred. My protege and I kind of looked at each other. After about an hour, with the victims whipped to a proper frenzy, Armando himself bounded on stage.
He gave us about 5 minutes, told us about all his depreciating luxury items complete with slides of boats and cars, and that we too could get rich in RE. Informed us how busy he was and for only $$$$ we could spend all day together the next weekend and learn the secrets we thought we were going to learn that night. My young padwan was severly disappointed in his hero.
Wanna know the secrets to getting rich in real estate? I'll save you a buncha time.
Buy low, sell high, or hold and rent. Don't leverage except in times of double digit appreciation or inflation. Fix things right and pay attention to detail. By the worst house on the block and make it the nicest without over building for price point. Curb appeal. And location, location, location.
That's it. If I can do it anyone can. --47.216.xx.xxx
Where R the gurus now? (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2019 4:54 PM
I think they are all getting TV shows. The telly is full of fixer shows. The gurus can be TV stars instead of selling books.
Note: the younger generations who should be the target audience for these guru guys have absolutely no interest in doing anything that looks like work. The way to get their interest is to tell them that you have a way to force the 1% to support them in style. Politicians have gotten it figured out; the real estate gurus, not so much. --98.146.xxx.xxx
Where R the gurus now? (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2019 5:04 PM
Thanks LTD for that trip down memory lane. And your secrets to getting rich in RE are dead on correct. --68.63.xxx.xxx
Where R the gurus now? (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2019 5:29 PM
LTD,I love your stories keep them coming. Tryan,I used to get the Financial Freedom report from Mark Haroldson,it as a good magazine --72.231.xxx.xxx
Where R the gurus now? (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2019 5:43 PM
My friend, peek out from under your rock. Yes some of the old names have slowed down but the vacuum they left has been filled 10 times for each oldster.
My inbox is FLOODED with new gurus. New names at each convention. Gotta show a Lambo and a Bentley.
Carlton Sheets: when I had bought about 15 properties on my own I decided I should buy his course ($159 at the time). I went thru it and kept saying "So THAT's what I have been doing! I did not know the technique had a name!"
I collect his sets when I see tham at garage sales, etc. When my kids or nieces/nephews express interest in RE investing I hand them Carlton's set and tell them to go thru it. THEN I will teach them.
We don't watch TV, only Hulu and Netflix so I have not seen an infomercial in YEARS! As a nightowl I watched every one every night. I think it helped motivate me.
I still remember a short Asian guy sitting on his boat with a voluptuous babe on each arm "You too can be (w)rich like me!" in his Asian accent.
Gurus on cassette and in person helped me make millions and earn my FREEDOM!!! Without them I'd still be grinding away, frustrated, part time with a job, and not very profitable.
Knowledge is power and profit in this biz!
Where R the gurus now? (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2019 7:12 PM
Than Merrill was doing a circuit here in Dallas one year. After the event, a group of us joined him for dinner. I knew the promoters of the event is why I was invited.
Pretty nice guy, but I got the feeling that the TV show and the tours are where his real money came from.
Luckily his approach was more info packed than the "all this glitz and glamour can be yours" approach. That's a big turn off.
I attended one of those "all this can be yours" seminars once due to pressure from a friend. It was a Neuveau Riche seminar. Ten minutes into the presentation I learned three things....
1. I am never talking to this friend again for getting me into this.
2. I was the only person in the room who wasn't an idiot. Everyone else was salivating at the opportunity to drop $11,000 on this money sucking stupidity.
3. And Neuveau Riche is not a pyramid scheme, even though it looks like a pyramid, acts like a pyramid and their graphics actually showed a chart that actually was pyramidal in shape. Yeah, whatever. Looked Egyptian to me.
Where R the gurus now? (by Smokowna [MD]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2019 11:47 PM
They are on Youtube. TV is dead to them.
So you understand, they need a product to pitch so that they have something to speak about.
The real goal is to get 100 people go out their and cold call their relatives. Then bring the lead back to the Guru who has investors. Finding houses is the hardest part, so you need a motivated group with insider info.
Where R the gurus now? (by cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2019 4:03 AM
LTD,you did alll right girl,I’m happy for you,If you ever make it to New Haven,look me up.I know you can find me.I’ll make coffee for us.No ,not Irish coffee,that’s a different cat with nine tails.I liked Mark o Haroldson,still peruse some of his old periodicals that I have lying around.I never throw anything out,what one do you want . LTD,my friend Paul and Shiela bought a piece of land in Montana,and built a house there,but its so cold there,they winter in a trailer park in Phoenix,you might run into them.you’ll know him when you hear the accent,think I’m bad.......Charlie...................... --32.214.xxx.xx
Where R the gurus now? (by cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2019 4:30 AM
Coming from Northern Ireland and only Ł20 in my hip pocket,I was doing what the guros were talking about,too bad I wasn’t smart enough to write a book about it.Oh!well,like the old saying goes “To quick old,too late smart”............. Charlie............ --32.214.xxx.xx
Where R the gurus now? (by Frank [KS]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2019 7:04 AM
Just dusted off my little $8.00 Mark Haroldson book from 1978.
Drove to one of his seminars in Orlando with another couple. It was a great time and still have good memories of the trip.
I kind of think that is where I first heard of "Mr. Landlord".
Like Tryan, we looked forward to the Financial Freedom Report.
Gave us the motivation I think everyone needs at times. --72.205.xxx.xxx
Where R the gurus now? (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2019 7:20 AM
Roy sorry I'm late to your post. We're on a cruise ship right now off the LI-- coast -- making the turn at Montalk Point heading into the NE. BUT really who Care's right?
I think the get rich people-- found out--, as evidenced by people who post here, that to be successful it takes TONS OF WORK. Nothing quick about it either (as most here also know).
How about Zig Ziggler? Al Lowery, Robert Allen, Wake Cook. --66.133.xx.xx
Where R the gurus now? (by cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2019 3:54 PM
Oh! and myob don’t forget Bill Nickerson and Lucille” HowITurned $1000 into. A million” in my spare time...........Charlie....all great. Reading......... I talked to them down in Florida.Nice people.Had a spot. of coffee together.shot the breeze,or if you want to call it,Blarney.Same thing!....... --32.214.xxx.xx
Where R the gurus now? (by cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2019 4:03 PM
Was a great trip!Wouldn’t mind doing it again,”if I was younger “..........Charlie........... --32.214.xxx.xx
Where R the gurus now? (by cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2019 4:16 PM
Sid,Try Buddington Brewed in Manchester or Preston,Thatstuff you mentioned tastes like water,so you might as well drink Polar Spring.......Charlie........don’t say I didn’t warn you....... --32.214.xxx.xx
Where R the gurus now? (by Live The Dream [AZ]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2019 6:05 PM
Charlie - we might just have to do that. We are hoping to make an east coast trip in the not too distant future.
I love Montana, we've made trips there the past three years and spent nearly a month this summer. But that little issue of 40 below in the winter is a deal breaker. We have friends with a summer cabin resort on Flathead lake. They want to move to Phoenix. LOL
Robert Allen has good ideas with his multiple streams of income. I try to practice that, I think most here do.
Is Dave Ramsey a "guru?"
I went to Tony Robbins power within weekend back in the 90's. I think it was $399 back then. I liked it and still try to use some of what I learned. I have not fire walked since however. --47.216.xx.xxx
Where R the gurus now? (by cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2019 6:29 PM
LTD,my offer is still on the table.the blue room is yours for whatever length of time,I’ll be your chauffeur ,taking you around Yale and the Irish Club in the evening and wherever else you want to go.were up near Edgewood Park.........Charlie.........Cead. Mile Failte Riobh....... --32.214.xxx.xx
Where R the gurus now? (by Chris [CT]) Posted on: Sep 24, 2019 4:30 PM
I went and visited Dave Ramsey in June, is he a guru? Everyone at his HQ was super nice including him.
Where R the gurus now? (by cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Sep 25, 2019 3:07 AM
Chris,don’t forget our Feish coming up next June the third Sunday of the month,I do some of the MCing,Always have time to shoot the breeze though............Charlie............ --32.214.xxx.xx
Where R the gurus now? (by RentsDue [MA]) Posted on: Sep 25, 2019 7:11 AM
There are a lot of radio ads here to get people to call for free tickets to a seminar to teach you how to flip houses with other people’s money. They catch is that the houses ( and seminar) are in Springfield, MA. War Zone. I’d probably get shot just driving to the seminar, no way am I getting involved in any house there. Yes, you can buy a house there very cheap / because it is a drug and crime infested cesspool. --71.10.xxx.xxx
Where R the gurus now? (by WL [CA]) Posted on: Sep 25, 2019 1:26 PM
Johntree for com used to have a bad guru section describing which gurus went bankrupt or to prison. Good for looking up your favorite guru and which prison he went to --94.158.xxx.xxx
Where R the gurus now? (by WL [CA]) Posted on: Sep 25, 2019 1:28 PM
Correction. Johntreed dot com bad gurus section --94.158.xxx.xxx
Where R the gurus now? (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Sep 26, 2019 11:18 PM
Rents Due, now you tell me.my grandson picked us up in Springfield after our trip to Westport Ontario,didn’t have any problems . What you don’t know,won’t hurt you!................Charlie......... --32.214.xxx.xx