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prescreen credit question (by David [MI]) Jul 16, 2019 11:45 AM
       prescreen credit question (by Drew [CO]) Jul 16, 2019 11:51 AM
       prescreen credit question (by Drew [CO]) Jul 16, 2019 12:05 PM
       prescreen credit question (by David [MI]) Jul 16, 2019 12:54 PM
       prescreen credit question (by Robert J [CA]) Jul 16, 2019 1:22 PM
       prescreen credit question (by Drew [CO]) Jul 16, 2019 1:32 PM
       prescreen credit question (by Jan [MO]) Jul 16, 2019 1:34 PM
       prescreen credit question (by David [NC]) Jul 16, 2019 2:12 PM
       prescreen credit question (by Drew [CO]) Jul 16, 2019 2:21 PM
       prescreen credit question (by myob [GA]) Jul 16, 2019 2:39 PM
       prescreen credit question (by Laura [MD]) Jul 16, 2019 2:47 PM
       prescreen credit question (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Jul 16, 2019 3:04 PM
       prescreen credit question (by Live The Dream [AZ]) Jul 16, 2019 6:19 PM
       prescreen credit question (by LisaFL [FL]) Jul 17, 2019 7:49 AM
       prescreen credit question (by David [MI]) Jul 17, 2019 8:54 AM
       prescreen credit question (by Sisco [MO]) Jul 17, 2019 10:32 AM
       prescreen credit question (by Dave [NC]) Jul 31, 2019 8:21 AM
       prescreen credit question (by WMH [NC]) Jul 31, 2019 10:58 AM
       prescreen credit question (by David [MI]) Aug 6, 2019 8:46 AM


prescreen credit question (by David [MI]) Posted on: Jul 16, 2019 11:45 AM
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I do phone prescreen and I ask this question verbatim "We have a minimum credit score requirement of 720 for at least one adult. Would that be a problem?" If yes, then they fail prescreen. I have been doing this for a full year now and most people seem relieved they don't have to waste their time and app fees.

I've gotten two applications on the same house and both times when I get to the credit report step, they appear surprised about my credit score requirement. They are all native english speakers and the sound quality of the calls are excellent. Thus I've been questioning if the wording of the question is too clunky.

Anyone have suggestion for better phrasing ? --144.250.xx.xx




prescreen credit question (by Drew [CO]) Posted on: Jul 16, 2019 11:51 AM
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Nothing overtly wrong with the question but off the cuff it sounds a bit like the more commonly used confrontational wording, "You got a problem with that?!" Perhaps, "Can we expect that from your application?" (Or something like that?) Only a subtle difference but it feels different. --172.58.xx.xxx




prescreen credit question (by Drew [CO]) Posted on: Jul 16, 2019 12:05 PM
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The other implication with the current wording is that the language subtly implies applicants' control over the matter/score in current time. Was just thinking how that phrase is used elsewhere and how the mind sometimes finishes the sentence on its own. Like "Could you do that?" "Would that be a problem for you?" " Would that be a problem for you to do that? Pull that off?" Might just throw people off for a minute. --172.58.xx.xxx




prescreen credit question (by David [MI]) Posted on: Jul 16, 2019 12:54 PM
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Thanks for the feedback drew. I will try "Can we expect that" --144.250.xx.xx




prescreen credit question (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Jul 16, 2019 1:22 PM
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Sometimes by having a high requirement right off the bat you may turn away a possible good candidate. 720 is the score I look for in a single family house rental. But if I allow the person to submit an application, I can read it over before running their credit and see "hope".

For example I have rented to people that:

a) lost a life partner (spouse)

b) lost a home due to foreclosure

c) lost a job and found a new one, a least 1 year on the new job

d) had a medical setback and had to cover the deductible, like $20,000 and went into collections.

In this case I see that the applicant has never before had a financial problem. And they may have a retirement account of $250,000, untouchable to creditors. If everything checks out, then they will be grateful being my tenant. I then ask for first plus 2 months security....

Also since they got my rental by the skin of their teeth, they will NOT move out after 1 year. My other tenants like this have stayed between 4 to 12 years on average... While those with excellent credit only stay 3 to 7 years. --47.156.xx.xx




prescreen credit question (by Drew [CO]) Posted on: Jul 16, 2019 1:32 PM
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You bet, David. --172.58.xx.xxx




prescreen credit question (by Jan [MO]) Posted on: Jul 16, 2019 1:34 PM
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I ask the exact same pre-screening question about credit score (and income), in the same way you do. It hasn't been a problem. Like you, it saves both sides time.

I think the two applicants you assumed would pass your qualifications easily surprised you when they did not, and that's caused you to doubt yourself.

How about this instead of the somewhat hard "we require": We **like to see/hope to see/generally require** a minimum credit score of 720 for at least one adult. Would that be a problem?

I don't like the word "expect" and would likely not ask any applicant what I can expect, about anything. How about this: **Can we look forward to seeing that/Do you think we would see that/Is that what we are likely to see** on your application?

I also require a credit score of 720, by the way, so I don't think it's too high, either.

--144.191.xxx.x




prescreen credit question (by David [NC]) Posted on: Jul 16, 2019 2:12 PM
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In only 1 of my homes does someone have an over 700 credit score. Most of the reasons for a low credit score are the reason they are renters and not buyers.

While I think the credit score is important, I would think taking a more holistic approach would yield more applicants.

However if you are filling vacancies with that criteria and are happy with the applicants then more power to you. --71.217.xxx.xxx




prescreen credit question (by Drew [CO]) Posted on: Jul 16, 2019 2:21 PM
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BTW, language aside, for the situation as a whole, I share David's (NC) perspective and have the same count in terms of credit scores above 700, maybe 2 out of 16. --172.58.xx.xxx




prescreen credit question (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Jul 16, 2019 2:39 PM
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720---------- is that 700 and twenty------- SEVEN HUNDRED AND TWENTY???? No way!!!!!!!

720 that may take 3 of my applicants-- one with no score and two that total 700.

I'm being perfectly honest-- I have not seen a 720 or 700 for that matter in 15 years maybe 20 here. I did recently have a 680 I think. That one 680 not a boat load. ONE out of 20 apps.

You people don't know how good you have it. If I waited on 700 I'd have 63 empty SFH's-- well not me--- the bank cause they would own them now.

This is why we've had to get so good at collecting. We're taking the least risky with 500 scores but of course we get whooper deposits. Even with big deposits though they still owe.

720-- why wouldn't they just get a home instead? That's mortgage loan scores. --99.103.xxx.xxx




prescreen credit question (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Jul 16, 2019 2:47 PM
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720 seems high, with that score they can buy with some of these downpayment programs. My long term tenants are folks who do not have their act together enough to buy but understand the rent needs to be paid before all other bills. For me that is the tenant sweet spot. --66.87.xxx.xx




prescreen credit question (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Posted on: Jul 16, 2019 3:04 PM
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Personally, I'd list all the requirements and then after saying that if you can't meet any one of the requirements then you might want to reconsider or something like that. I wouldn't list credit score then say can you meet it? That means they have to confess to poverty or bad credit. That's embarrassing. Giving a list, not all related to credit, gives him/her a chance to say no without embarrassment. --108.69.xxx.xxx




prescreen credit question (by Live The Dream [AZ]) Posted on: Jul 16, 2019 6:19 PM
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I noticed my credit recently went from 825 to 809, then to 790. I paid off my only mortgage about 5 years ago. It is no longer showing, and I had one inquiry, after 60 years I got a BofA card! Took a 35 point hit.

If I got like 3 more cards and it knocked another 60 pts I would barely meet your criteria just due to inquiries. But I could probably buy your rental from petty cash. Be careful you aren't restricting your pool by being too stringent.

And yet back in the good ole days I got a million plus no doc loan on my house when I had no job, and a credit score of like 200. Tell me it's not a racket. --47.216.xx.xxx




prescreen credit question (by LisaFL [FL]) Posted on: Jul 17, 2019 7:49 AM
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I don't look at credit scores. Income and stability and no history of evictions are more important. I do a credit screening through. My screener is excellent at making recommendations based on what he learns.

My screening states that "we do screen for credit and we don't expect perfection but the applicant must show a history of generally responsible financial management."

There may be dings on their history but my screener takes into account what they are (he dismisses medical debt) and considers recent behavior most important. I have outstanding tenants as a result. --75.89.xx.xxx




prescreen credit question (by David [MI]) Posted on: Jul 17, 2019 8:54 AM
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I don't think 720 is an unreasonable requirement as it is the MEDIAN score in this country. It's not that hard to be in the top HALF of the country ! --144.250.xx.xx




prescreen credit question (by Sisco [MO]) Posted on: Jul 17, 2019 10:32 AM
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For a non lockbox showings operation in this age of Zillow FB marketplace, you need to be able to quickly cull those who clearly don’t qualify.

I would try text or email responses to test whether the prospects truly can not understand your statement or if they are feigning outrage at their being rejected.

Your statement seems clear to me. --72.172.xxx.xx




prescreen credit question (by Dave [NC]) Posted on: Jul 31, 2019 8:21 AM
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Hello, I have been running the combo pack and it give me a "Credit Grade Based on Grading Rules". Am I missing something? Maybe I need to run a different report. --70.237.xx.xxx




prescreen credit question (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Jul 31, 2019 10:58 AM
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I don't look at score, just the way they pay (or ignore) their bills. --50.82.xxx.xx




prescreen credit question (by David [MI]) Posted on: Aug 6, 2019 8:46 AM
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After a few more people submitted apps and it was obvious they didn't meet credit score, I think I know what the problem is. I need to preface the question with "We do credit report on each adult ..." Maybe that will get their attention --144.250.xx.xx





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