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Landlord tasks (by Laura [MD]) Jul 15, 2019 11:27 PM
       Landlord tasks (by Laura [MD]) Jul 15, 2019 11:34 PM
       Landlord tasks (by Drew [CO]) Jul 16, 2019 8:43 AM
       Landlord tasks (by S i d [MO]) Jul 16, 2019 8:52 AM
       Landlord tasks (by Laura [MD]) Jul 16, 2019 9:36 AM
       Landlord tasks (by S i d [MO]) Jul 16, 2019 9:51 AM
       Landlord tasks (by Laura [MD]) Jul 16, 2019 10:08 AM
       Landlord tasks (by Drew [CO]) Jul 16, 2019 1:17 PM
       Landlord tasks (by myob [GA]) Jul 17, 2019 8:07 AM
       Landlord tasks (by WMH [NC]) Jul 17, 2019 9:06 AM


Landlord tasks (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Jul 15, 2019 11:27 PM
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In an effort to systemize my operations one of the first steps is to identify all the "tasks" that I as a landlord currently do. My goal is if I were to be hit by a car tomorrow someone else could step in and know what needs to be done and how it ends to be done.

My list of landlord tasks (what am I missing)? FYI typing on my phone so expect more than the usual typos.

-collect rent

-deposit rent

-receive repair requests

-schedule repairs with tenant/contractor

-find contractors

-pay mortgages

-do taxes

-annual insurance tune up

-show properties

-sign lease

-send out security deposit accounting

-list vacancies

-vacancy marketing

-respond to vacancy requests

-grass cutting on vacancies

-change locks

-communicate lease violations

-communicate late rent

-file in court

-go to court

-shovel snow on vacancy

-respond to HOA violations

-property inspections

-walk through pre occupancy

-walk through post occupancy

-rental turnover

-cleaning

-move utilities in/out of my name

-screen tenants

-regular tenant communication

-rent increases

What is missing?

--75.112.xx.xxx




Landlord tasks (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Jul 15, 2019 11:34 PM
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-painting --75.112.xx.xxx




Landlord tasks (by Drew [CO]) Posted on: Jul 16, 2019 8:43 AM
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Laura, I'm in the process of systematizing as well. I have a category I am referring to as "coordinating seasonal maintenance." For spring/summer, I have weed control, power wash AC condensers, check/change filters, and swamp cooler maintenance (as long as I have). For late fall/pre-winter, I have furnace maintenance to include sensor maintenance(check and remove build up), change batteries in thermostat (if app), change filters, vacuum inside furnace area, and put out ice melt buckets/shovels. If I have a skilled handyman on staff, much of this will be on his detail, but too many times, I'm in between and then I need to coordinate and/or do some of this myself. --172.58.xx.xxx




Landlord tasks (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Jul 16, 2019 8:52 AM
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Probably the most important consideration is who will take over the tasks?

I've talked with my spouse and she has no interest in being a land lady. Once I'm out of the picture, she is to hire a competent PM or sell. Her choice.

I get the whole systematize thing....but there is a point of diminishing returns. Laws change. Tenants change. Properties sometimes change. What is true today may be outdated tomorrow. So unless you're prepared not only to make this manual first time around but also updated it every 6 months or so, it may end up giving the person who steps in bad info.

The other consideration is finances. Anyone who is taking over a significant portion of control over your rental property will have to have access to the finances to make it all work. Able to write checks, pay contractors, etc. Other than your spouse...whom would you trust to have access to your bank account? That would all have to be set up in advance via a Power of Attorney or by putting someone's name on your account.

I've been toying with the idea of finding a few other LLs locally and making a friendly agreement with them that if any one of us is incapacitated for x-months, the others will step in and help. Keep the ship moving forward until I'm able to step back in. People who already know the laws of our state, the town, and LL 101 Basics. I think it would be too much of a burden for someone with no knowledge to step in, even with a well-documented manual. I haven't figured out the financial part on that yet, other than them telling my wife what checks to write and to whom.

I keep coming back to hiring a competent PM. I think overall that would be the surest, least-complicated way to ensure everything gets done correctly.

Up to you, however. --107.216.xxx.xxx




Landlord tasks (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Jul 16, 2019 9:36 AM
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Systems need to be maintained and continuously improved, that is a given Working on systems is the difference between working on your business vs working in your business.

While there are good PMs they are in the minority. Maybe 10%, this issue came up at boot camp. So unless you are very lucky you will have to go through several PMs before you find a good one and associated collateral damage. --75.112.xx.xxx




Landlord tasks (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Jul 16, 2019 9:51 AM
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Laura, I hear what you're saying. ACtually, this topic came up 3 years ago at the Mr. LL Convention as well. I know because I have my notepad open right now and am looking at notes I took on Jeffrey's training.

To be 100% clear: I am NOT saying "Do not systematize." What I AM saying is "systematizing has to be done, redone, and re-redone, continually" and more important than any system is you find a person who can IMPLEMENT it. I'm sure Jeffrey touched on implementation. He hammered that one home two years ago in St. Louis.

You can have the most excellent 3-ring binder and colored divided sections in the world, but if the person you put in place isn't 100% clueless about rentals and hasn't got the intestinal fortitude to evict late payers and deal with contractors, it will do you no good whatsoever and will have been a total waste of time.

So, to re-re iterate: Get the right PERSON to implement your SYSTEM. The right person can fill in the gaps and troubleshoot on the fly if you get run over by the proverbial bus and the last time you updated your binder was 5.9 months ago. If you cannot find such a person, then a quality PM would be the next obvious step vs. taking someone who knows nothing about LLing. --107.216.xxx.xxx




Landlord tasks (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Jul 16, 2019 10:08 AM
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Sid - we agree! --66.87.xxx.xxx




Landlord tasks (by Drew [CO]) Posted on: Jul 16, 2019 1:17 PM
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And just to chime in... 100% agreement. My systematizing is for my own organization and business management. I know I don't have "a person," including my SO, even with me here for oversight (let alone w/out me here). --172.58.xx.xxx




Landlord tasks (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Jul 17, 2019 8:07 AM
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I hope this suggestion fits this commentary.

We have 2 lists. #1 is the tenant list- who-where-how much- lease start date /end date rent amount and phone numbers. We have that on each office desk- up on my kitchen table and one in each car and in my brief bag. Updated as tenants move in and out. Our MMan has copys but with out rent amounts.

The second list and the one more pertinent to this discussion: DATA base about 6 pages long. Alpha order. So P for example is plumbing. Top guy is first but we have 2 alternates. We use the alternates occasionally just to keep our name in their minds. "A" has attorneys- RE atty, civil for dispos, criminal for when I get locked up by tenant, estate planner atty and accountant/CPA (only one of those) This is updated every 6 months. It also has PEOPLE with text number and emails along with home numbers of people who are in the trade with us that we know personally. We do also maintain on the data base the neighbors who live next to our SFH's at least one. Any additions are hand written on data base and updated when redone in 6 months with notations. When on vacation I take both lists with me. --99.103.xxx.xxx




Landlord tasks (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Jul 17, 2019 9:06 AM
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Laura, we are off-loading more and more of the physical tasks of landlording. I stopped painting years ago, after I hurt my shoulder. Glenn is still doing it, but touch-ups: we are not doing full-on painting anymore. He still does plenty of grueling physical labor, but trying to dial it back. I will still lay Allure, but that's about it.

The business side is somewhat shared using Google Sheets, Docs, Email, Contacts. He knows the tradespeople better than I do but I'm the one who pays them.

Financially, he will be challenged. He hasn't learned how to balance a check book EVER in his life, I have always handled the money even in our pre-LL days. He will need a good bookkeeper for sure. Plans right now are to train up one of the kids or grand-kids...but even if he has to hire outside the family, that kind of expertise is probably available, and he can handle the tenant side of the business even though he doesn't want to - he goes to most of the same training that I do and reads here too.

The big issue will be if we both die in the same bus crash. Our heirs will be scrambling a bit. We need to fix that. --50.82.xxx.xx





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