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ESA cows (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Jul 12, 2019 8:00 PM
       ESA cows (by NE [PA]) Jul 12, 2019 9:20 PM
       ESA cows (by NE [PA]) Jul 12, 2019 9:23 PM
       ESA cows (by RB [MI]) Jul 12, 2019 9:45 PM
       ESA cows (by DJ [VA]) Jul 12, 2019 10:12 PM
       ESA cows (by Live The Dream [AZ]) Jul 12, 2019 10:17 PM
       ESA cows (by NE [PA]) Jul 12, 2019 10:19 PM
       ESA cows (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Jul 12, 2019 11:18 PM
       ESA cows (by DJ [VA]) Jul 13, 2019 7:50 AM
       ESA cows (by Busy [WI]) Jul 13, 2019 8:35 AM
       ESA cows (by Vee [OH]) Jul 13, 2019 9:54 AM
       ESA cows (by Doogie [KS]) Jul 13, 2019 10:11 AM
       ESA cows (by MikeA [TX]) Jul 13, 2019 8:33 PM
       ESA cows (by Roy [AL]) Jul 13, 2019 10:52 PM
       ESA cows (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Jul 14, 2019 9:51 AM
       ESA cows (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Jul 14, 2019 9:56 AM
       ESA cows (by NE [PA]) Jul 14, 2019 11:40 AM
       ESA cows (by Small potatoes [NY]) Jul 14, 2019 12:38 PM
       ESA cows (by MikeA [TX]) Jul 14, 2019 4:23 PM
       ESA cows (by NE [PA]) Jul 14, 2019 10:01 PM
       ESA cows (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Jul 15, 2019 10:54 AM
       ESA cows (by Busy [WI]) Jul 15, 2019 2:53 PM
       ESA cows (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Jul 17, 2019 2:31 PM
       ESA cows (by Cjo’h [CT]) Jul 18, 2019 3:00 AM
       ESA cows (by Cjo’h [CT]) Jul 18, 2019 3:26 AM


ESA cows (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Jul 12, 2019 8:00 PM
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Ever heard the phrase “Til the cows come home”?

Could be yours!

www.nytimes.com/2019/07/12/style/self-care/cow-cuddling-therapy.html

BRAD --73.102.xxx.xxx




ESA cows (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jul 12, 2019 9:20 PM
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I remember when I was young working off and on on family farms. Squished between cows in stalls when doing chores, stepped on by huge heavy hooves. My favorite was getting whipped in the face with poop crusted tails. Or splashed when they relieved themselves.

Fun fun.

Gotta love city liberal thinking and their "cow cuddling". --50.107.xxx.xx




ESA cows (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jul 12, 2019 9:23 PM
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Oh and PS, there will never be one in any of my rentals.

:) --50.107.xxx.xx




ESA cows (by RB [MI]) Posted on: Jul 12, 2019 9:45 PM
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I hear ya, NE.

--184.53.x.x




ESA cows (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Jul 12, 2019 10:12 PM
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LOL, NE! Dirty tail in the face is the worst.

And the flies! Where do they all come from?!

Oh my, the memories! LOL! --68.10.xxx.x




ESA cows (by Live The Dream [AZ]) Posted on: Jul 12, 2019 10:17 PM
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I spent a week once on a dairy farm in Ocala, FL. It was kind of fun, partly because I didn't have to get up at 3 am for the 5 am milking.

Was fun to see all the cows line up for milking. And I learned how to stick the milk sucking things on them. And we went mud bogging on Saturday night. Redneckery at it's finest! LOL

--47.216.xx.xxx




ESA cows (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jul 12, 2019 10:19 PM
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One thing I always thought was neat was bringing the cows in the barn at the end of the day. You could have 100+ cows waiting to come in and they all (most anyway) walk right in and go right to their own stall. How do they know in a big barn which one is theirs? --50.107.xxx.xx




ESA cows (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Jul 12, 2019 11:18 PM
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SERVICE animals are officially limited to dogs and miniature horses. ESAs have no limitations so technically speaking a cow COULD be brought (forced) into the rental.

I bought a foreclosure where the former owners had kept their pet goats in the bedroom during cold weather. Peee-yooo!

As a city kid teen I worked parttime for a farmer (detassling led to driving a plow-AWESOME driving a big powerful tractor at age 16!)

We were repairing some boards in the cow stalls, ankle deep in manure. I told him I needed to step out to relieve myself. A man of few words he spit his tabaccy and said “Boy. Whadda ya think yur standin in - just add to the soup.”

BRAD --73.102.xxx.xxx




ESA cows (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Jul 13, 2019 7:50 AM
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Add to the soup. I'm laughing tears.

Thanks- I needed a good laugh.

I'm reminded that, where I grew up, a traffic jam was if you were trying to drive past a dairy farm just before milking. Had to wait for all the cows to finish crossing the road. I'd prefer that over these city traffic jams any day. --68.10.xxx.x




ESA cows (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Jul 13, 2019 8:35 AM
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Always surprised me how other farmers let their animals live in filth. My dad mad sure we kept our barns very clean. We might have gotten swatted with a tail, but it was never a poop-crusted tail. In the winter we didn’t, clean out the loafing sheds, but we added fresh straw daily, so by spring, the steers were much closer to the ceiling.

We had a few steers that became ‘ pets’. One was so tame, if we were short a horse to go riding, we just rode the steer. He just trotted along nicely, happy to be part of the herd. When it was time for him to go to the slaughterhouse, we all became vegetarians. So dad just donated an extra side of beef to the church raffle. --70.92.xxx.xxx




ESA cows (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Jul 13, 2019 9:54 AM
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To you guys east of me the flies are blown your way in heavy winds, who sends them here is still a mystery to me, many years cleaning stalls out as a early teenager - pre-teen, my uncle almost always did the milking and the dirt drive was an hour or more from the blacktop road. --76.188.xxx.xx




ESA cows (by Doogie [KS]) Posted on: Jul 13, 2019 10:11 AM
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$75/hour to hug cows? Woa!!

There was a picture going around the Fakebook of some cows that broke into their owner's house while they were on vacation (that's the story on the pic I saw at least). Absolutely TRASHED the house. The floor was nothing but mud and the walls were totally covered in mud too. I'm sure that mud had "other" things mixed with it too. (in reality, it was totally the "other" things) Haha! ;)

I really hope HUD comes out and issues their guidelines soon. This ESA business has gotten to the point of insanity. The system is abused beyond belief and the LL and airlines are paying for it. There are others I am positive, but these are the 2 groups we hear about the most. --68.102.xxx.xx




ESA cows (by MikeA [TX]) Posted on: Jul 13, 2019 8:33 PM
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I think it's a great idea, Eating Steak Always! Is it discriminatory to prohibit vegans though? --50.26.xx.xxx




ESA cows (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Jul 13, 2019 10:52 PM
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I have a question for all you cow experts. I have heard from somewhat reliable sources that once milking cows lose their ability to produce milk (after 3-4 years?),..those cows are sold to McDonalds and other hamburger chains. Apparently milk cows produce the best hamburger meat. Is this true? --68.63.xxx.xxx




ESA cows (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Jul 14, 2019 9:51 AM
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The fast food chains want very lean meat so they don't lose weight from the fat melting out when cooked. Old dairy cows are thin animals and yield meat that is low in fat.

The cows are not sold to fast food chains. They go through regular channels and the fast food chains simply order the low fat (low grades) of meat and probably, but not necessarily, what they are getting is older animals.

Retired dairy cows are most likely 12-14 years old. Some may be older. They are not finished after 3 years. --98.146.xxx.xxx




ESA cows (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Jul 14, 2019 9:56 AM
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The dairy breeds of cow produce very good meat, but they are not efficient at turning feed into beef. That's why what you buy in the supermarket is beef from beef breeds of cattle.

With a beef cow, it take less feed to produce a pound of beef.

Older cattle tend to taste good, depending upon what they have been fed. The meat has a more mature flavor, but it is tough, which is why it is ground.

Your fast food burger might be 100% beef, but that is not the same as 100% ground from best steak. There is a lot of stuff on a cow that is still beef but is not necessarily what you put on your own table to feed your kids. --98.146.xxx.xxx




ESA cows (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jul 14, 2019 11:40 AM
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Roy, old milkers typically become ground beef. Too tough for steaks. Steaks come from cows about 18 months old.

I have no problem cuddling with a burger or steak.

We get 95% of our meat directly from farmers. We have a hog coming in the fall and a 1/4 of a steer soon.

We raise our own rabbits for meat and sometimes chickens. Sometimes we get chickens from the farmer as well.

Lambs we buy at a local fair in the fall from 4-H kids.

Nowhere in this process do I see any of these people needing to cuddle with any of these animals.

--50.107.xxx.xx




ESA cows (by Small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Jul 14, 2019 12:38 PM
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I spent a Sumner on a relatives farm and we ate sunshine burgers, the current cow was named moonshine. Worst for me was stocking bales of straw in the loft, hot, prickly, dusty and hard work. --99.203.xx.xxx




ESA cows (by MikeA [TX]) Posted on: Jul 14, 2019 4:23 PM
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I remember as a young man going to the sale barn in KC. That's where we sold our steers each spring. I watched the ring and the buyers. You see all kinds of beef there: old milkers; old cows past their calving years; culls that had a bad eyes, open wounds, deformities, cancerous eyes etc.

One year as I was watching, I noticed that one guy was buying all of the cheap stuff from old milkers, culls, and old cows. The beef no one else would pay good money for. Some of it barely able to walk the ring. I asked my dad who he was, he rolled his cigar in his mouth and told me he was the buyer for McDonald's and asked if I wanted to stop for a burger on the way home. That kind of ruined me on fast food chains. --50.26.xx.xxx




ESA cows (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jul 14, 2019 10:01 PM
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Mike A, so that buyer was investing in the junkers no one else wanted? --50.107.xxx.xx




ESA cows (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Jul 15, 2019 10:54 AM
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Cows can be bribed to hang around for food. They can be desensitized to allow touching. They do not have much interest in human company beyond that and they are dangerous, large, heavy animals with a very different idea of personal space.

I'm surprised that there is even any liability insurance available that would cover livestock-inexperienced people around cattle.

Even people who know what they are doing can be injured or killed by cattle. --98.146.xxx.xxx




ESA cows (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Jul 15, 2019 2:53 PM
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After us younger kids refused to eat that steer, Dad installed a new policy: No Naming the beef! It’s much easier to eat an animal if it doesn’t have a name. He also figured we weren’t ‘busy’ enough on the farm if we had time to make ‘pets’ out of cattle. More pulling weeds in the soybean fields! --172.58.xxx.xx




ESA cows (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Jul 17, 2019 2:31 PM
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Busy,

Hahaha! So the comfort cows who I assume have pleasant names, can now comfort some tummies!

Nothing like a great steak and taters to adjust my attitude!

BRAD --73.102.xxx.xxx




ESA cows (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Jul 18, 2019 3:00 AM
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NE,the cattle are more intelligent than we think they are.and you’re right we can’t give them names maybe call them names, but that’s it..I’ll still have a Big Mac now and then don’t even think where it came from?????????charlie..................?????????? --32.214.xxx.xx




ESA cows (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Jul 18, 2019 3:26 AM
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Oh!Another thing.The President of the Cattle Men’s Association of the United States is a lady and she lives in Ccentral New Jersey, not in Texas or Arizona or Oklahoma,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Charlie............I’ll get her number for you if you need it?................................... --32.214.xxx.xx





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