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Market Predictions (by John [VA]) Jul 11, 2019 3:49 PM
       Market Predictions (by Homer [TX]) Jul 11, 2019 4:02 PM
       Market Predictions (by AllyM [NJ]) Jul 11, 2019 4:15 PM
       Market Predictions (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Jul 11, 2019 4:15 PM
       Market Predictions (by myob [GA]) Jul 11, 2019 4:32 PM
       Market Predictions (by Roy [AL]) Jul 11, 2019 5:34 PM
       Market Predictions (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Jul 11, 2019 5:36 PM
       Market Predictions (by RB [MI]) Jul 11, 2019 5:43 PM
       Market Predictions (by Scott [IN]) Jul 11, 2019 6:41 PM
       Market Predictions (by Robert J [CA]) Jul 11, 2019 9:10 PM
       Market Predictions (by WMH [NC]) Jul 12, 2019 8:50 AM
       Market Predictions (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Jul 12, 2019 10:08 AM

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Market Predictions (by John [VA]) Posted on: Jul 11, 2019 3:49 PM

What do you all see the market doing in the next few years from your experience? Wondering if I should sell the remaining rental, take the profit and get some other rentals. I've been reading and hearing different things that we're about to burst and rates are going to spike and others say it's going to be good for the next few years still. Thanks!

Market Predictions (by Homer [TX]) Posted on: Jul 11, 2019 4:02 PM

It all has to do with the upcoming election. If the current administration wins again, growth will continue. The cutting back of business regulations have been great for the economy. If a socialist wins, the very next day the market will drop 30-40 percent, then continue to drop over the next 4 years. We all know when the stock market tanks housing follows. This all of course is what I see in my crystal ball. YMMV

Market Predictions (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Jul 11, 2019 4:15 PM

I agree with the above. The Demos are cooking up another housing scheme (K. Harris) to put urban folk into homeownership. Last time Pelosi did that, the market and the economy tanked in 2008. Pelosi's program gave 200 K mortgages to first time home buyers with iffy credit that the banks would not take. So greedy realtors raised the price of shacks to 200 K. Nice houses were double that. The folks that bought were not allowed to resell for five years. So when it got really cold they paid for heat not the mortgage and abandoned the homes or were evicted. All those empties returning to the lenders crashed the banks. Anything that shuts down the flow of fuel oil can make a problem. It's solar minimum for the next few years so it's going to be cooler. If the movement of fuel holds up everything will be fine. If Iran can shut down the Straits of Hormuz or hit some refineries, the price of oil will go up and the economy will be affected. I see our current President winning again and clear sailing for four more years. After that we need another high profile charismatic R president to keep the Golden Age going. You can help. Explain this to people

Market Predictions (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Posted on: Jul 11, 2019 4:15 PM


I've always heard housing was the leader, specifically new construction and the rest followed.

If current admin wins again, yes market will grow, but the feds will probably take the opportunity to up interest rates to get them back to normal levels.

The housing market is a local market though. Even during bad times, some area markets prosper.

If the other side wins, they'll probably have free housing to go with free college so all evil landlords will be out of a job. Or we'll all become charities, or government funded.

Market Predictions (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Jul 11, 2019 4:32 PM

prediction: keep your debt reasonable at all times. Keep your prime investments in prime condition. If your investing career is over target your keeper properties for payoff and transfer to LLC or FLP. Have your list of homes you can live without (pre 1978 construction). don't be afraid of the banks and lenders-- if the banks mort portfolio tanks -- you'll just be a number to them-- dump what you don't want. (the losers)

Market Predictions (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Jul 11, 2019 5:34 PM

The way I do things makes no difference which party wins in 2020. Plus, I actually do better when the RE market tanks like it did in 2008. I can locate a bargain priced house in good or bad markets.

Market Predictions (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Jul 11, 2019 5:36 PM

Here's my prediction from 42 years of investing in RE.

It will do what it has always done - go up and go down.

The people who ADAPT will win and those who are stuck in the past will lose.

For YEARS the media and realtors have talked BUY NOW because interest rates are going up. In the past 10 years they've gone up a tiny bit.

RE is local. Cali had a bubble which burst creating havoc for those folks.

MY town did not have a bubble growing so the downturn was only a few percent.

I made a lot of money buying up homes cheap when everyone else was scared and broke.

Cash is king in a downturn. People were bringing deals to me.

Don't over extend. Our recession came instantly without warning. Builders who were stuck with 5-6 unfinished homes to complete and sell went belly up because no one was buying.

Run while the gettin is good but only run with what you can carry.

DEBT will wipe out the weak in a heartbeat.

Equity does not pay the bills. And when the SHTF the banks stopped lending to investors which means we could not sell anything, and started calling loans to be paid NOW or foreclose. Even a loan with a low balance still requires a monthly payment and can be foreclosed.

The very banks that loved ya on the way in are the same banks that will foreclose on ya if you fall behind.

Who will survive? LLs with PAID FOR properties.


Market Predictions (by RB [MI]) Posted on: Jul 11, 2019 5:43 PM

Ditto, Brad 20,000 Plus. --184.53.x.x

Market Predictions (by Scott [IN]) Posted on: Jul 11, 2019 6:41 PM

"All those empties returning to the lenders crashed the banks."

Very true, but they didn't just crash the banks. The banks sold many of their newly minted mortgages to Fanny and Freddie, who bundled and sold them to Wall Street, who in turn sold them as mortgage-backed securities. That's how a real estate crash brings down Wall Street.

Market Predictions (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Jul 11, 2019 9:10 PM

I purchased ton's or Homes and Apartment in Working Class Areas of the City (Los Angeles). When particular circumstances occurs and the masses can't afford to buy or live at the current market level, things will make a natural adjustment.

I've owned and lived through 3 complete cycles. Loss of Jobs, Earthquakes, Economic downturn, mortgage melt down, stock market crash and the loss of spendable cash -- have all attributed to market down turns.


Market Predictions (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Jul 12, 2019 8:50 AM

If the housing market crashes we will buy more properties.

If it doesn't we will keep raising rents.

We will continue to live on less than what we earn in case the rent bubble bursts and we have to lower rents for some reason.

We will continue to do maintenance and improvements to our properties so we can get the highest rent possible whatever the state of the market is.

We will continue to go to trainings and conventions to learn about evolving trends.

So...pretty much things as usual.

Market Predictions (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Jul 12, 2019 10:08 AM

Real estate runs in cycles, but no one knows when the top will be reached or how low it will go when it goes down. The government meddled badly and that turned the last down cycle into a disaster. Real estate doesn't usually go down that badly.

Real estate has been up for a long time now, so a down turn will happen eventually. But no one can know when.

I am seeing some very low down mortgages and some people buying who should never have been given a mortgage. So some of the bad mortgage behavior is starting to happen again.

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