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ESA and DR (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Jul 7, 2019 9:20 AM
       ESA and DR (by Richard [MI]) Jul 7, 2019 9:57 AM
       ESA and DR (by Robert J [CA]) Jul 7, 2019 12:08 PM
       ESA and DR (by Doogie [KS]) Jul 7, 2019 12:15 PM
       ESA and DR (by Adele [FL]) Jul 7, 2019 12:31 PM
       ESA and DR (by Richard [MI]) Jul 7, 2019 1:43 PM
       ESA and DR (by CJ [MO]) Jul 7, 2019 2:03 PM
       ESA and DR (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Jul 8, 2019 10:38 AM
       ESA and DR (by John... [MI]) Jul 8, 2019 2:22 PM
       ESA and DR (by 6x6 [TN]) Jul 8, 2019 7:06 PM
       ESA and DR (by MC [PA]) Jul 9, 2019 6:49 AM
       ESA and DR (by Barb [MO]) Jul 9, 2019 2:24 PM
       ESA and DR (by John... [MI]) Jul 9, 2019 2:53 PM
       ESA and DR (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Jul 11, 2019 2:14 AM

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ESA and DR (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Jul 7, 2019 9:20 AM

Doctors will hand out prescriptions for an ESA like lollypops to anyone who asks for one. It just occurred to me: we have to tippytoe around the ESA issue. Maybe the doctor also has to be extremely cautious.

There are no side effects for the patient to prescribing an ESA so an ESA is safe for the patient. Maybe if the doctor declines to prescribe an ESA, he faces the possibility of a lawsuit if the patient has an accident or self-harms.

Physicians are the only group sued more often and with less cause than landlords.

I am still irritated at the doctors, but perhaps slightly less so. Real irritation goes to HUD who won't write reasonable guidelines.

ESA and DR (by Richard [MI]) Posted on: Jul 7, 2019 9:57 AM

Same around here.

They also hand out handicapped parking stuff like candy. All someone has to do is say "my back hurts" and bingo, up front reserved free parking.

Same with this medical marijuana stuff --"my back hurts, headaches, stress, whatever". Every deadbeat in the area has med marijuana, handicapped parking and sea animals. Free food, rent vouchers, and more.

Why work the deadbeats say.

And our taxes pay for it all.

ESA and DR (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Jul 7, 2019 12:08 PM

I had a UCLA (University of California at Los Angeles) doctor hand out Companion Animal letters for a "fee". In one year her service wrote over 2300 letters for her patients. But UCLA Hospital list her having only seven to eight hundred patients. Proving she never met or saw most of the people she provided animal letters. She should be held accountable for damages the dogs/tenants did because she help commit fraud on the landlords. --47.156.xx.xx

ESA and DR (by Doogie [KS]) Posted on: Jul 7, 2019 12:15 PM

You are correct. Docs will hand out the letters if you simply ask for it. They are afraid of getting sued for denying one of those letters. Although it's not in anyone's best interest, I look at it like this. 9 times out of 10 (or higher) the tenant just wants their dog and not pay the extra fees for it. So if we make them go to the doc, they are still paying those fees. They are paying it in doctor visit fees instead of pet fees to the LL however. Maybe someday they will realize it's cheaper to pay the extra pet deposit that you can actually get back.

ESA and DR (by Adele [FL]) Posted on: Jul 7, 2019 12:31 PM

So much to add, but I am trying to be polite . Keep spreading the word, even though there is so much contradiction: work hard and you can still get ahead, and feel a sense of accomplishment. Salute to you, landlords. Keep playing the game the best you can!

ESA and DR (by Richard [MI]) Posted on: Jul 7, 2019 1:43 PM

Under the idea of "if you can't beat them...", since my places are class C type rentals, I've long ago adopted pets and smokers are OK. I just charge for it as part of the normal rent.Do I like this? No! But, if I refused to rent to pets and smokers about 85 percent of tenants would not be there. Class C renters around here overwhelmingly have pets and smoke.

How do I deal with the damage and the smoking smell? Easy!

I rent to class C people with pets who smoke. Its amazing. They don't care about the smell or even most of the damages. In fact, they don't generally even notice. Most of them are slobs. They wouldn't know what a really clean house looked like. I don't generally need to do more than sweep the floors (all cheap vinyl) and wipe down kitchens and baths. Average clean up time about 2-3 hours.

Do I prefer this type of customer or method of operating? No!

However, around here, anyone making over about $15 per hour can usually buy a place and will, leaving only $7-$15 per hour workers to rent. And those on welfare and disability.

In my experience, these groups don't have any real skills or ambition and their habits show this. It's just reality.

ESA and DR (by CJ [MO]) Posted on: Jul 7, 2019 2:03 PM

They waste lots of money on smoke, drink, pets too

ESA and DR (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Jul 8, 2019 10:38 AM

At least the handicapped parking isn't a problem for the majority of landlords because those parking tags are also handed out like lollipops.

Handicapped spaces are always full and, most of the time, everyone in the vehicle looks to be mighty spry. Too bad for the handicapped who really need those spaces.

Unless you have a large apartment building, handicapped parking isn't a landlord issue, so it is someone else who is burdened with that disability issue.

ESA and DR (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Jul 8, 2019 2:22 PM

I never realized how bad that problem was until my mother-in-law was permanently confined to a wheelchair. There is almost never a spot open. We'll sit and wait for a spot (because it isn't just a matter of going to a normal spot further out when you have a wheelchair -- you need door space to be able to make it all work!) -- and we'll constantly watch people walk/skip/run/whatever up to their "handicapped space" vehicle. It's extremely frustrating.

- John...

ESA and DR (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Jul 8, 2019 7:06 PM

Robert J, I agree she should be sued and put in jail.

Oregon Woodsmoke and John, I see people in the store all of the time using those handicapped buggies and they don't need them.

ESA and DR (by MC [PA]) Posted on: Jul 9, 2019 6:49 AM

As someone who regularly deals with the handicapped-both physical and mental-it is infuriating to see those who don't need it use it. Yes, some disabilities are not seen with the eye but those who are not legit should be towed. Better yet, those who park in handicap with no card or plate should be an immediate tow.

ESA and DR (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Jul 9, 2019 2:24 PM

I hear you John.

The 3 months I spent in a WC this year was eye opening. We definitely needed the extra space for hubby to get the WC out of the car and bring it around to me. --131.151.xx.xx

ESA and DR (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Jul 9, 2019 2:53 PM

Yeah -- that's the part that people don't get. She's actually had people make a statement related to someone in a wheelchair not really needing to park in the handicapped spots, because they can just roll in from anywhere in the parking lot. (In other words, they were implying that the obese people with handcapped stickers should get those closer spots instead since they have to walk until they get to their little buggy inside.)

They don't realize at all that the handicapped spots for someone in a wheelchair are more about the SPACE required to get in and out than about distance to the doors of the place! It isn't that we need her to be close -- it's that we need a parking space where some idiot doesn't park 3" away from the side of the car! :)

- John...

ESA and DR (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Jul 11, 2019 2:14 AM

FYI: 23 states have made it illegal and with fines to misrepresent a SERVICE ANIMAL, even wacky Cali! It's step in the right direction.

MY town organized a group and authorized them to write tickets to folks illegally parked in handicapped spots.


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