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Can I remove storm door (by AR [IL]) Jun 21, 2019 11:59 PM
       Can I remove storm door (by Ken [NY]) Jun 22, 2019 12:08 AM
       Can I remove storm door (by Robert J [CA]) Jun 22, 2019 2:45 AM
       Can I remove storm door (by AR [IL]) Jun 22, 2019 5:03 AM
       Can I remove storm door (by AR [IL]) Jun 22, 2019 5:08 AM
       Can I remove storm door (by RB [MI]) Jun 22, 2019 5:52 AM
       Can I remove storm door (by S i d [MO]) Jun 22, 2019 7:11 AM
       Can I remove storm door (by Still Learning [NH]) Jun 22, 2019 7:47 AM
       Can I remove storm door (by WMH [NC]) Jun 22, 2019 8:02 AM
       Can I remove storm door (by steve [MA]) Jun 22, 2019 8:39 AM
       Can I remove storm door (by myob [GA]) Jun 22, 2019 9:37 AM
       Can I remove storm door (by Richard [MI]) Jun 22, 2019 9:45 AM
       Can I remove storm door (by Busy [WI]) Jun 22, 2019 9:48 AM
       Can I remove storm door (by LindaJ [NY]) Jun 22, 2019 9:52 AM
       Can I remove storm door (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Jun 22, 2019 10:26 AM
       Can I remove storm door (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Jun 22, 2019 10:29 AM
       Can I remove storm door (by AllyM [NJ]) Jun 22, 2019 10:57 AM
       Can I remove storm door (by Robin [WI]) Jun 22, 2019 11:27 AM

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Can I remove storm door (by AR [IL]) Posted on: Jun 21, 2019 11:59 PM
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I have a tenant that constantly leave the storm door wide open, this is the srcond door that I had to replace because the wind blew it away, do I have to provide him with a storm door? Can I remove it?

--172.58.xxx.xx




Can I remove storm door (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Jun 22, 2019 12:08 AM
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I certaintly would not,if they think you should then charge them for it --72.231.xxx.xxx




Can I remove storm door (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Jun 22, 2019 2:45 AM
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I would install an automatic door closer to the door will stay closed and latched/locked. If the door serves a purpose, they why remove it? --47.156.xx.xx




Can I remove storm door (by AR [IL]) Posted on: Jun 22, 2019 5:03 AM
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Robert, the door has an automatic door closer but he keeps it open, it used to have a chain and he removed it. --172.58.xxx.xx




Can I remove storm door (by AR [IL]) Posted on: Jun 22, 2019 5:08 AM
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Ken, I am the one who wants to remove it, because I don't want to keep replacing the storm door every time the wind blows it away. --172.58.xxx.xx




Can I remove storm door (by RB [MI]) Posted on: Jun 22, 2019 5:52 AM
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I hear ya.

Here, storm doors are not required.

But if ya have one, it has to be maintained.

Tired of fixing it ?

Make it disappear.

--184.53.x.xxx




Can I remove storm door (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Jun 22, 2019 7:11 AM
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I remove storm doors wherever possible. I also bill tenants for damages caused by abuse, misuse, and neglect.

Bill you tenant for the missing door and do not replace it. --173.20.xxx.xxx




Can I remove storm door (by Still Learning [NH]) Posted on: Jun 22, 2019 7:47 AM
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Can you bill and not replace? --24.61.xxx.xx




Can I remove storm door (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Jun 22, 2019 8:02 AM
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It's in my lease: if there is a storm door present it is for the Tenant's convenience but is not maintained by the LL; if it breaks the Tenant can have it fixed at their own expense, or LL will remove it for free.

We got out of the storm door business several years ago: we were fixing/replacing them every year somewhere! No more. --50.82.xxx.xx




Can I remove storm door (by steve [MA]) Posted on: Jun 22, 2019 8:39 AM
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If the door was damaged due to tenant's negligence then you should bill them for the cost of repairing / replacing the door each time it happens. At turn over if your state does not require a storm door, just eliminate it.

In MA we do not have to provide a storm door. We do have to provide a screen door for any door that opens from an individual unit to the outdoors. We also must provide & maintain screens for any window that opens. These requirements apply to all rental units on the first four floors of a building. The screens must be in place between April 1 and October 30 each year. To help lessen the chance of having wind damage, I add a second closer to most of my storm doors. FYI most better storms like the Anderson 4000 full view series come with an upper & a lower closer. However unless it's a really nice rental most LLs don't want to spend $3-400.00 for a storm door. --96.237.xx.xx




Can I remove storm door (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Jun 22, 2019 9:37 AM
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We don't maintain storm doors. When we get a call about one-- first words out of our mouth--- the last tenant installed this and we don't maintain this. We promptly remove. --99.103.xxx.xxx




Can I remove storm door (by Richard [MI]) Posted on: Jun 22, 2019 9:45 AM
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Couple points here:

* If tenant treats the storm door this way he likely treats the entire house the same way. You might want to increase your inspection frequency to catch other damahes.

* I don't want to sound greedy here BUT you could turn this into another stream of income. Get a storm door used from Habitat Restore or a place like that. Go by the rental weekly checking for damage or destroyed door. Replace immediately and charge him for it. A decent storm door is likely $150-225 or$50 used plus the cost of shopping for it and delivering it to the rental.plus about $100+ to install and haul away the old one. Plus dump fees and mileage. I

Pay yourself for shopping, delivery, installation, removal and disposal of broken door. Easy $50+ per hour. Or have a helper do it for $20 and you Bill it at $50. But several used ones at the used store. I'll bet other rentals may have the same problem. 4 or 5 a month equals a work truck payment.

--71.10.xx.xxx




Can I remove storm door (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Jun 22, 2019 9:48 AM
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I have switched from the flimsy aluminum storm doors over to security door, or older wooden storm doors (negative for lead, of course,) on the houses where I am still required to have a storm door. (Energy efficiency law that requires a storm door IF the exterior door wasnít insulated.)

IF there is a porch railing that the door would swing into if the wind caught it, I install a rubber bumper , or even two, then I remove the closers and the chains. I instuct the tenants to make sure the storm door is latched. Also, make sure the door latches and unlatched easily. Might have to check that in different seasons, especially on the metal security doors if they are in the sun. Rotary tool can widen the deadbolt receiver hole if needed.

Those strong door closers are sometimes too hard for smaller kids to open, leaving a child crying outside, or, if not adjusted, close too quickly on little kids, catching their feet as they come inside. And, if the exterior door ISNíT a proper exterior door, like all the hollow core doors that were on my own home, there can be lots of different expansions of door jambs with the cold/ hot weather changes. We still need to remodel our entry door on our own home to fix the chronic storm door issues. I am thinking of ordering a wooden storm door when we do. I have had much better success with wooden ones. I donít mind the chains, but I hate the closers! --70.92.xxx.xxx




Can I remove storm door (by LindaJ [NY]) Posted on: Jun 22, 2019 9:52 AM
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If it was broken due to their neglect, I would charge them for it. How else are they going to learn. However, the proper "closer" will pull it closed when it is no longer held unless the little tab is moved, which is only done by a person!

You could remove the door to have it repaired and just forget to put it back up.. or take too long to do it. (wink wink). If prevailing wind is the direction that opens the door, install it with the hinge on the side so the wind closes it. But if the tenant damaged it (especially more than once) then charge them. --108.4.xxx.xx




Can I remove storm door (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Jun 22, 2019 10:26 AM
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If that tenant leaves it propped open all the time, he probably doesn't want one anyway.

I don't provide them. It's bad enough that I have to replace the entire screen and frame on the sliding doors without having to replace all the storm doors and screen doors. --98.146.xxx.xxx




Can I remove storm door (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Jun 22, 2019 10:29 AM
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I just sold a house that still has the original storm door from the 1990's. The tenants have never been able to break it.

That thing is built like a tank. I can't even imagine what it would cost today to buy one like it, if you could even find one like it, which I kinda doubt.

But generally, storm doors and screen doors won't survive tenant treatment, often not lasting a full year, and I've got good tenants in my rentals and they still break the storm doors. --98.146.xxx.xxx




Can I remove storm door (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Jun 22, 2019 10:57 AM
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If your local or state codes allow you to remove it then send the tenant a notice that it will be removed when you sign the next lease with this tenant. If they are month to month than give them a thirty day notice and remove it. Summer winds and winter winds are stronger from different directions. --173.61.xxx.xx




Can I remove storm door (by Robin [WI]) Posted on: Jun 22, 2019 11:27 AM
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I remove them when they break and don't replace them. Inevitably the closer gets damaged and/or the bracket rips out of the frame. Unnecessary maintenance item. --173.66.xxx.x



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