 LLs Hunted by Gov't (by WL [CA]) Jun 21, 2019 10:16 AM
 LLs Hunted by Gov't (by Richard [MI]) Jun 21, 2019 10:19 AM
LLs Hunted by Gov't (by NE [PA]) Jun 21, 2019 10:41 AM
LLs Hunted by Gov't (by David [MI]) Jun 21, 2019 10:47 AM
LLs Hunted by Gov't (by AllyM [NJ]) Jun 21, 2019 12:29 PM
LLs Hunted by Gov't (by JB [OR]) Jun 21, 2019 1:23 PM
LLs Hunted by Gov't (by Nicole [PA]) Jun 21, 2019 1:52 PM
LLs Hunted by Gov't (by Nicole [PA]) Jun 21, 2019 1:53 PM
LLs Hunted by Gov't (by Robert J [CA]) Jun 21, 2019 2:19 PM
LLs Hunted by Gov't (by David [MI]) Jun 21, 2019 2:42 PM
LLs Hunted by Gov't (by Busy [WI]) Jun 21, 2019 2:55 PM
LLs Hunted by Gov't (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Jun 21, 2019 4:43 PM
LLs Hunted by Gov't (by WL [CA]) Jun 21, 2019 11:26 PM
LLs Hunted by Gov't (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Jun 25, 2019 12:15 PM
LLs Hunted by Gov't (by WL [CA]) Posted on: Jun 21, 2019 10:16 AM
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Justice Department Sues California Landlord for Trading Sex for Rent Discounts
The seven-page complaint, filed in U.S. District Court in San Diego, accuses property owner Larry Nelson of entering the homes of his female tenants without reason and in several cases offering to reduce or forgive rent in exchange for sex, according to the Los Angeles Times.
In October 2017, the Department of Justice launched an initiative to combat sexual harassment in housing. In April 2018, the department announced the nationwide rollout of the initiative, including three major components: an outreach toolkit to leverage the department’s nationwide network of U.S. attorney’s offices, a public awareness campaign, including the release of a national public service announcement, and a new joint task force with HUD to combat sexual harassment in housing. Since launching the initiative, the Department of Justice has filed 10 lawsuits alleging a pattern or practice of sexual harassment in housing.
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LLs Hunted by Gov't (by Richard [MI]) Posted on: Jun 21, 2019 10:19 AM
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What are we going to have to do? Charge a $200+ per hour fee to tenants for us to have a lawyer present whenever we must go to their house for anything? Video every second of interaction? Voice record everything?
It's looking that way. --71.10.xx.xxx |
LLs Hunted by Gov't (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jun 21, 2019 10:41 AM
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What about when the tenants are constantly hitting on us? --50.32.xx.xxx |
LLs Hunted by Gov't (by David [MI]) Posted on: Jun 21, 2019 10:47 AM
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As a slight tangent to NE's comment , anti-discrimination laws do not go both ways. A store or LL or employer may not discriminate against customers, tenants or employees, respectively, based on protected class. But customers, tenants, and employees are free to choose their retailers, landlords, and employers for any reason, including race and gender. --144.250.xx.xx |
LLs Hunted by Gov't (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Jun 21, 2019 12:29 PM
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At least that's one thing I don't have to worry about. --173.61.xxx.xx |
LLs Hunted by Gov't (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Jun 21, 2019 1:23 PM
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That's right NE. I know what you mean. It is a major problem for us "lookers."
I remember viewing a TV judge show many years ago about a female tenant who made a deal with the LL to offer sex in exchange for no rent. This was a package deal that was supposed to happen for multiple times (maybe 10+).
LL held up his end of the deal. Tenant took him to court because she didn't think she should have to follow through with her end of what she thought would be considered an illegal deal (after only two or three friendly "visits").
Well, judge said that she did not fulfill her obligation and she was forced to repay for what she failed to perform on her end. --24.20.xxx.xxx |
LLs Hunted by Gov't (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Jun 21, 2019 1:52 PM
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I look at the money that is being spent for 10 law suits in over a year!!!
No, landlords shouldn't be doing whatever it is they are accused of. No, tenants should not be dumb/naïve/conniving/desperate/whatever to agree.
BUT, the federal government spending I'm assuming millions of dollars for a small problem that could be addressed elsewhere? ridiculous. --72.70.xxx.xx |
LLs Hunted by Gov't (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Jun 21, 2019 1:53 PM
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I look at the money that is being spent for 10 law suits in over a year!!!
No, landlords shouldn't be doing whatever it is they are accused of. No, tenants should not be dumb/naïve/conniving/desperate/whatever to agree.
BUT, the federal government spending I'm assuming millions of dollars for a small problem that could be addressed elsewhere? ridiculous. --72.70.xxx.xx |
LLs Hunted by Gov't (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Jun 21, 2019 2:19 PM
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These are real issues. But in most cases tenants who can't pay their rent make false claims against their landlord -- claiming some form of sexual harassment. Then when proven these claims were false, nothing is done to accuser. --47.156.xx.xx |
LLs Hunted by Gov't (by David [MI]) Posted on: Jun 21, 2019 2:42 PM
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The doj and hud employees are salaried --50.4.xxx.x |
LLs Hunted by Gov't (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Jun 21, 2019 2:55 PM
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JB, and even for guys who might not be ‘lookers, though you two might be at higher risk *grin*. I had one applicant ask if my husband would ever be picking up the rent. Huh? I had made NO mention of having a husband, though I do wear a gold wedding band. When I went to her house to pick up the application, I walked right by the stripper pole mounted six feet inside the front door. Said nothing about it. Denied for other stronger reasons, but the pole and asking if a man would be picking up rent. .. um No!
( but, my husband is a ‘looker’ imo, she just hadn’t even seen him, and she was already making plans on how to ‘pay rent.’ ) --172.58.xxx.xxx |
LLs Hunted by Gov't (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Posted on: Jun 21, 2019 4:43 PM
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Depending on his approach on the subject, it might not be as much a case of harassment, as it is a case of discrimination because I'm assuming he only made this offer to females. To avoid discrimination, he would have needed to offer this proposal to both males and females, and any gender in-between. --108.69.xxx.xxx |
LLs Hunted by Gov't (by WL [CA]) Posted on: Jun 21, 2019 11:26 PM
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The solution for accusations of sexual harassment by LLs is simple: ABR! Always Be Recording! Whenever I deal with female tenants now, I have a video cam or a voice recorder or a handyman witness and a provision in the rental agreement allowing me to record conversations "for quality control of services or complaints". There are so many fake harassment allegations like that against Justice Kavanaugh that protecting yourself is vital. --201.140.xxx.xx |
LLs Hunted by Gov't (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Jun 25, 2019 12:15 PM
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Good thing for me - I am short, fat, middle aged, and balding. But I was all that - when it wasn't cool.
On the bright side there is always the trust fund --24.101.xxx.xx |
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