Tenant work (by Peggy [CA]) Jun 19, 2019 2:47 PM|
Tenant work (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Jun 19, 2019 2:54 PM
Tenant work (by myob [GA]) Jun 19, 2019 3:09 PM
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Tenant work (by bet [MA]) Jun 19, 2019 7:16 PM
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Tenant work (by Robert J [CA]) Jun 20, 2019 12:11 AM
Tenant work (by Live The Dream [AZ]) Jun 20, 2019 2:51 AM
Tenant work (by Vee [OH]) Jun 20, 2019 12:13 PM
Tenant work (by Lana [IN]) Jun 20, 2019 2:18 PM
Tenant work (by JB [OR]) Jun 21, 2019 12:50 PM
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Tenant work (by Peggy [CA]) Posted on: Jun 19, 2019 2:47 PM
I am in California. I have had a tenant for close to five years. He is nearing 70. In the last few years I have had a problem with him working on my property. He is a retired contractor. He has put in electrical work without permission and it proved to be wrong. He put in a small block patio in a shared yard area without permission that is now coming apart. Now he has gone out and worked on his air conditioning condenser--without permission. I have told him each time NOT TO WORK ON anything but he continues to do so and I am very worried. He thinks he is the property manager for the other two units (I have made clear to the other tenants that he is not). I live two blocks away and go by there almost daily but things are done inside the unit like the electrical. What should I do to make him stop? --74.44.xxx.xx
Tenant work (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Jun 19, 2019 2:54 PM
Time for him to find a new place to live.
You've asked him repeatedly and he still does modifications that are potentially dangerous against your expressed wishes. He's not going to stop. --98.146.xxx.xxx
Tenant work (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Jun 19, 2019 3:09 PM
He is an employee now-- so if he gets hurt-- workmans comp along with he's doing for other renters-- big no no. EVICT. --99.103.xxx.xxx
Tenant work (by Jim O C [CA]) Posted on: Jun 19, 2019 3:12 PM
EVICT before he burns the property down. Being California if he destroys your property YOU will probably be found partially liable. --99.23.xxx.x
Tenant work (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Jun 19, 2019 3:17 PM
Bill him for the cost to correct the problems he created, and if he doesn't pay, evict him.
He did something wrong. You told him to stop. He ignored you. Time to end the relationship. If you fail to evict, he will continue "fixing" things, which could lead you to being liable if his work hurts anyone, including himself. --173.20.xxx.xxx
Tenant work (by fred [CA]) Posted on: Jun 19, 2019 3:53 PM
Do you have anything in your rental agreement that forbids tenants from doing unwanted and unauthorized repairs, upgrades and improvements?
If you don't, re-write your agreement. Also include: tenant shall not solicit estimates from contractors without your approval.
Send the tenant a letter expressing this concept, right away. If he doesn't stop, find a way to terminate the agreement and get rid of him.
BTW, what kind of a "contractor" was he if he is turning out lousy work?
Tenant work (by Richard [MI]) Posted on: Jun 19, 2019 4:15 PM
Get rid of him immediately. He has repeatedly demonstrated that he does not care what you say or want.This will not change. --71.10.xx.xxx
Tenant work (by melinda [MD]) Posted on: Jun 19, 2019 5:22 PM
People who rent sometimes think that if they do it themselves it will be done quickly. Usually it is screwed up. One of our tenants had her "uncle" work on the heat pump without our permission. Messed it up big time. No matter what you tell them, they think that it is okay take charge and do work or have a friend do the work. --24.233.xxx.xx
Tenant work (by CDM [CA]) Posted on: Jun 19, 2019 5:32 PM
Do you have a written record of your "No working on the property" message? Is it in your lease? If not, you need to send him a notice saying he can't work on the property before evicting. --73.231.xxx.xxx
Tenant work (by RB [MI]) Posted on: Jun 19, 2019 5:37 PM
how do ya like living here ? --184.53.x.xxx
Tenant work (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Jun 19, 2019 6:04 PM
Evict? That doesn't sound like. CDM has the right idea. Document your request and enforce the lease putting the responsible back on him. Also don't renew his lease at the first possible opportunity. Don't give a reason other than your contract is not being renewed. That's how my state works. Yours will be different as it seems CA is exception to certain norms in other states. --99.203.xx.xx
Tenant work (by bet [MA]) Posted on: Jun 19, 2019 7:16 PM
The only way he wont be working on your property is if he is living some else. Evict --73.227.xxx.xxx
Tenant work (by JR [ME]) Posted on: Jun 19, 2019 9:35 PM
Put up with it or evict. Your choice. --98.13.xx.xxx
Tenant work (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2019 12:11 AM
I am a licensed contractor and long time landlord, going on 41 years now. Your subject covers many areas where a tenant over steps their authority and does sub-standard work without permission. This is a major problem because you are still responsible for any issues, problems, damages, etc.
You should send him a registered letter outlining the issues and tell him to stop working on your property without written consent.
If he still keeps doing this then serve him with a 3 Day Notice to Perform or Quit -- stop building, fixing and doing work on your property without first getting written consent. Then evict him if he keep on working on it.
I had a tenant who did antique furniture repairs on the property in the common area by the garages. He used a 1/4 sheet sander without a vacuum so dust would fly all over the place. I told my partners we had to have the tenant stop this or educate him on Lead Dust -- and provide a HEPA Vacuum. My partners tole me I can't do anything, I am out voted.... They liked the tenant. That's until the tenant got lunge issues from breathing varnish and lead dust particles. Lucky he didn't sue us...Why? Because we allowed this to continue on the property.... --47.156.xx.xx
Tenant work (by Live The Dream [AZ]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2019 2:51 AM
Old people tend to do what they want, because we know everything. Unfortunately many don't know what they think they do. I am with Robert on sending a formal cease and deist notice. Remember at 70, this is his HOME. He seems to value it, but just can't do the quality work he once did.
I hate to see you have to evict him, but I think at the least you need to have a very clear discussion, that HE is living in YOUR property and suggest if he isn't happy with the situation that he start looking for a more compatible home. --206.15.xx.xx
Tenant work (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2019 12:13 PM
What Sid said, go to work at church or old job location... --76.188.xxx.xx
Tenant work (by Lana [IN]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2019 2:18 PM
Sounds like he changed his behavior in past few years. This type of behavior change to iinappropriate work done on unit can be an early dementia flag in the older person. In that case, it will get worse. As a long term tenant, he may also have crossed the line into thinking he owns the place. When tenants begin to become territorial and own the place, that also only worsens over time. Again time to eject.
Also, some men just dont listen to women....ever. I would correct his mess ups at HIS expense, send a cease and desist notice, and start to move him out.
Tenant work (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Jun 21, 2019 12:50 PM
In the last few years of his life my father was having memory problems. I had come over to help my mother work on the yard. Dad got into the shed and came out with a chainsaw. He was attempting to start it.
I finally saw him and took it away. God only knows what would have happened had he been able to start that thing. --24.20.xxx.xxx
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