Is America waking up? (by WMH [NC]) Jun 18, 2019 4:38 PM|
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Is America waking up? (by MikeA [TX]) Jun 18, 2019 5:10 PM
Is America waking up? (by Deanna [TX]) Jun 18, 2019 5:10 PM
Is America waking up? (by WMH [NC]) Jun 18, 2019 5:14 PM
Is America waking up? (by Frank [NJ]) Jun 18, 2019 5:50 PM
Is America waking up? (by Deanna [TX]) Jun 18, 2019 6:51 PM
Is America waking up? (by AllyM [NJ]) Jun 18, 2019 8:33 PM
Is America waking up? (by WMH [NC]) Jun 18, 2019 9:29 PM
Is America waking up? (by S i d [MO]) Jun 19, 2019 8:51 AM
Is America waking up? (by RentsDue [MA]) Jun 19, 2019 9:07 AM
Is America waking up? (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Jun 19, 2019 10:17 AM
Is America waking up? (by Judi [CA]) Jun 19, 2019 10:07 PM
Is America waking up? (by Fabric Gal [CA]) Jun 20, 2019 4:47 AM
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Is America waking up? (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Jun 18, 2019 4:38 PM
Is America waking up? (by RB [MI]) Posted on: Jun 18, 2019 4:45 PM
1/2 are awake while the other 1/2, not so much.
Is America waking up? (by Frank [NJ]) Posted on: Jun 18, 2019 4:53 PM
Please explain more. I do see that due to cost of land,materials, labor and gov't regs make building inexpensive dwellings not profitable. Where the land and labor is cheap, few want to live there. --174.225.xxx.xxx
Is America waking up? (by MikeA [TX]) Posted on: Jun 18, 2019 5:10 PM
Too early to tell, there are a ton of politics involved. City planning and building departments are highly entrenched, the "Not in My Backyard" crowed will push against changing zoning, the local officials that have grown up by having their pockets lined by getting projects approved, to name a few. As Frank points out, you have to make it profitable and low hassle for builders to move into the affordable housing market. Likely the new units built will not be targeted at affordability but it will cause a trickle down effect that will more directly solve affordability. The premise is sound: Increase supply to meet or exceed demand will cause more affordable housing. It will be interesting to watch over the coming months/years to see if city management will change. --50.26.xx.xxx
Is America waking up? (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Jun 18, 2019 5:10 PM
"Both the Times' news story and weekend editorial devote a lot of space to discussing Minneapolis, where in December, the city council voted to allow two- and three-unit homes citywide. Previously, 70 percent of residential land was zoned for single-family homes."
"In March, the Seattle City Council upzoned 27 separate neighborhoods across the city, allowing for the construction of denser residential and commercial buildings. Currently working its way through neighboring Oregon's legislature is a bill that would ban single-family zoning in almost every community in the state."
Is America waking up? (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Jun 18, 2019 5:14 PM
Here's another interesting topic:
Is America waking up? (by Frank [NJ]) Posted on: Jun 18, 2019 5:50 PM
Of course there is another reason some places are looking to increase density.
Those areas may already be st a max of build out so the only to increase tax revenue is to increase the # of ratables/taxable entities.
The in-law family of the Prez bought our local Mall. They are re vamping its retail component and in the formerly dead/unused parking area putting in 700 apts.
There will be 88 low income units. The market rate units are slated for either side of 3K monthly.
They also are completing the third and final phase of a oceanfront project called Pier Village. Also they have just completed a purchase of a stalled redevelopment project of the long defunct eminent domain project. All. Very high end. --174.225.xxx.xxx
Is America waking up? (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Jun 18, 2019 6:51 PM
Zoning is one of the things that's standing in the way of converting empty big box stores into more useful things, like apartments. I know of one Walmart in the Houston-Galveston area that's been sitting vacant for, like, 20 years... They used the parking lot to heap up debris torn out from homes after Harvey, but apart from that, it hasn't done anything useful since the 90's... Someone tried making it into a furniture store, but it didn't last.
has a good list of repurpose-ing. McAllen (TX) turned a Walmart into a library. Minnesota has a grocery store that was turned into a library. Princeton has a grocery that turned into a gym. Fayetteville has a Kmart that's been turned into an indoor flea market. Another MN town turned an old Kmart into office space and a museum, and the offices eventually pushed the museum to relocate. Charlotte has a Kmart that was repurposed into a school. A NY grocery store was converted into a church. And so on.
But my favorite repurposing is still--
where an old shopping mall was repurposed into micro-apartments. If I had vast bins of unlimited money, I'd totally do that... but of course, even if you had the $10-$25 million for the initial buy-in, you still had to deal with zoning modifications before you could redevelop it to your own vision. --96.46.xxx.xx
Is America waking up? (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Jun 18, 2019 8:33 PM
Biologists found that when rats are packed too closely together they fight. Pack people too closely together and they will fight also. --173.61.xxx.xx
Is America waking up? (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Jun 18, 2019 9:29 PM
Or make friends, form bonds and create a neighborhood, Ally. --50.82.xxx.xx
Is America waking up? (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Jun 19, 2019 8:51 AM
My crystal ball isn't working today (or yesterday when this was posted), but I think we'll see some relaxation of zoning in some cities. In others, we'll see politicians implement rent caps and possibly things like UBI, all of which may provide a short-term relief to existing renters but which long-term will exacerbate the problem.
We saw during the post-Great Recession how adult kids moved back into mom 'n dads house, so that trend may kick in again eventually as rents/prices get too high.
One thing is certain: people find a way. We're all in this game with our best interest in mind. When Govt tries to artificially pick winners and losers, we ultimately all end up losing something and the results are not as good as if the free market determined the optimal solution(s). --173.20.xxx.xxx
Is America waking up? (by RentsDue [MA]) Posted on: Jun 19, 2019 9:07 AM
Springfield, MA might have a good plan going. Itís kind of a war zone. I avoid it at all costs because people get shot, stabbed and robbed there almost daily. But, it is a big city where a LOT of people work and live. They have a lit of vacant shopping plazas because shopping plazas are being replaced by online shopping ....and no one likes to go shopping in a war zone anyway. Except for the people who already live there. They are going to build the affordable housing right in the shopping plaza. The idea is to put the Walmart shoppers right next to the Walmart/ grocery store/ pharmacy/restaurants. The idea is to put the housing in an area that nobody will complain about ( because itís better than abandoned buildings) and to provide the remaining stores with customers. --71.10.xxx.xxx
Is America waking up? (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Jun 19, 2019 10:17 AM
In the province of Ontario there is lot of single family houses where expensive half million plus in major cities where rental units are in short supply as there is a provincial rent control where builders are not building rental apartment buildings as the uncertainty rent controls will be put on newer rental units. Most new multi unit construction are condominiums as the supply of condominiums is increasing where it is more difficult to get a mortgage. If one is willing to move far out of the major urban areas the cost of single family houses, condominiums becomes more reasonable where it is still possible to buy a modest single family house from $250,000 Cdn. So in the end if one has the funds housing is available. --147.194.xxx.xx
Is America waking up? (by Judi [CA]) Posted on: Jun 19, 2019 10:07 PM
SB 1069 allows every single family home in California to build a secondary unit. That's one way they're trying to solve the housing crisis. Still, a studio apartment here goes for $12-$1500 per month, a 1 bedroom bungalow or apartment $14-2200, 2 bedroom ~$2200+ and on up the line. With building costs these days, that's what it would take to make the expense worth it. So...1069 helps someone, but not the low-income workers who need housing here to keep our restaurants, groceries, hotels and retail establishments staffed. --24.176.xxx.xxx
Is America waking up? (by Fabric Gal [CA]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2019 4:47 AM
Getting the permits and the variances for a secondary unit (Accessory Dwelling Units or Jr ADUs) in my little area of Cali is cost prohibitive to many of us in SFH. For any of us older folks with just one income property, we wouldn't recoup the money it costs to build the darn thing, within the remainder of our lifetimes.
There is also a push to build high density units close to the trolly and the bus lines, since the units are unlikely to have parking for 2 cars per unit.
The idea in the City Plan is for everyone living within a set amount of miles of public transportation to take that public transportation for work, school, shopping, grocery shopping, medical and dental appointments, visiting friends, attending worship services, etc., so places built within a specific number of miles from the trolly or bus (as the crow flies) won't have any parking at all.
Infrastructure and traffic issues, as well as crime, will increase dramatically. Police and fire are substantially understaffed as it is.
The writing is on the wall. My city, along with it's lovely charm, is going downhill. There's no coming back from this. --68.8.xxx.xxx
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