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gone bad (by melinda [MD]) Jun 16, 2019 4:28 PM
       gone bad (by Jerry [MA]) Jun 16, 2019 4:53 PM
       gone bad (by 6x6 [TN]) Jun 16, 2019 5:00 PM
       gone bad (by Busy [WI]) Jun 16, 2019 5:33 PM
       gone bad (by Robert J [CA]) Jun 16, 2019 5:33 PM
       gone bad (by AllyM [NJ]) Jun 16, 2019 6:46 PM
       gone bad (by 6x6 [TN]) Jun 16, 2019 6:59 PM
       gone bad (by Busy [WI]) Jun 16, 2019 7:01 PM
       gone bad (by RB [MI]) Jun 16, 2019 8:01 PM
       gone bad (by JKJ [MA]) Jun 16, 2019 8:02 PM
       gone bad (by LindaJ [NY]) Jun 16, 2019 8:39 PM
       gone bad (by JB [OR]) Jun 16, 2019 8:56 PM
       gone bad (by Ken [NY]) Jun 16, 2019 9:15 PM
       gone bad (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Jun 17, 2019 1:10 AM
       gone bad (by Vee [OH]) Jun 17, 2019 11:57 AM
       gone bad (by Doogie [KS]) Jun 17, 2019 12:22 PM

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gone bad (by melinda [MD]) Posted on: Jun 16, 2019 4:28 PM

Embarassed to ask this, but please help me understand how a tenant after a year decides to no longer pay his rent. He has always been a late payer (really late!). This month he has given us many promises to pay at a certain day/time. Of course we have the sudden funeral expenses for his mother. I made a trip to the house and spoke with his adult stepson. I got a judgement last Tuesday in court. What might be some reasons for nonpayment? Why the lies? Why not the truth? --24.233.xxx.xx

gone bad (by Jerry [MA]) Posted on: Jun 16, 2019 4:53 PM

His reasons don't really matter. Regardless, you move forward with eviction, getting him out as quickly as possible, and then re-rent the place to someone who will pay the rent.

Spending too much time (any time, really) trying to figure out why people go bad is futile, and will only give you a headache. It's best to move on. --71.233.xxx.xx

gone bad (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Jun 16, 2019 5:00 PM

Sounds like he has been playing you for a long time.

I am glad to hear you finally got a judgement.

Did you ever charge late fees?

Did you now send a POQ notice.

Follow your state and local laws and get him out now.

Next time you can implement a zero tolerance policy.

Screen your applicants well so you can find this kind of past behavior.

Some people are just irresponsible and see just how much you will bend.

I hope you get this guy out now and get better tenants next time. --73.120.xx.xxx

gone bad (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Jun 16, 2019 5:33 PM

He didnít really go bad, as he was a late, really late payer. I allow my tenants to pay at other times in the month, but we have a quick process they must go through to be approved, and it comes with late fees. If they want a date that is too late, it is declined, they must pay earlier. Now, if I had a lot of rentals, or, if most of my tenants were doing this, I would give them proper notice that this policy was changing, and things would tighten up. Because it is limited, AND I get late fees and NO sob stories, I use this to offer flexibility, while bringing in extra income. The tenants pay for that flexibility.

Some people are just ( fill in the blank,) and they will do what they can get away with. Itís up to us landlords, within the laws we operate under, to give them boundaries. We define how much they can get away with. I gently suggest you tighten the boundaries to where YOU want them. --70.92.xxx.xxx

gone bad (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Jun 16, 2019 5:33 PM

I had a family stop paying rent on my property 5 homes on 1 lot.

I came by one day to deliver the 3 day notice to pay rent or quit.

The non-paying tenant was having a party with extended family. There were over 30 family members at the party and my tenants from the other 4 homes.

Everyone there called me a heartless landlord! Eviction a family for being late on their rent. So I counted heads and said, "This tenant pays only $800 a month. So if I divide that by the number of family members here -- if everyone comes up with Twenty Bucks ($20), the family can stay another mouth without being evicted.

How many of the 40 family members there coughed up $20? ZERO!

So I's supposed to forgive a $800 late rent as a landlord but family members aren't expected to lend a helping hand.

This was back in 1999. From then on, if a tenant doesn't have a real good reason and still can make a substantial dent in the rent due, it's notice and then eviction time. --47.156.xx.xx

gone bad (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Jun 16, 2019 6:46 PM

They pay late and stop paying because they have a drain on their finances. Could be ex wife, girlfriend, car repairs. Just can't get ahead. --173.61.xxx.xx

gone bad (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Jun 16, 2019 6:59 PM

That was a point well made Robert J. --73.120.xx.xxx

gone bad (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Jun 16, 2019 7:01 PM

Robert J, that is one of my favorite stories. Really goes to show, the family knew what was going on. --70.92.xxx.xxx

gone bad (by RB [MI]) Posted on: Jun 16, 2019 8:01 PM

Stop the badness.



gone bad (by JKJ [MA]) Posted on: Jun 16, 2019 8:02 PM

I wouldnít care about the reasons, I have a zero tolerance policy. --174.199.xx.xxx

gone bad (by LindaJ [NY]) Posted on: Jun 16, 2019 8:39 PM

Don't waste your time and effort trying to figure out why. Deal with it, get someone in that pays. --108.4.xxx.xx

gone bad (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Jun 16, 2019 8:56 PM

The only thing allowing bad behavior gets you is worse behavior!

It's your job to train them. You are letting the tail wag the dog. If you want to understand why they went bad you're going to have to look in the mirror. --24.20.xxx.xxx

gone bad (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Jun 16, 2019 9:15 PM

If you really care for a reason it is along the lines of this is how poor people with no morals survive,in there world it is ok to screw you because you can afford it --72.231.xxx.xxx

gone bad (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Jun 17, 2019 1:10 AM


Unfortunately you trained him the rent was not important by alowing the lates.

It's a common pattern we allowed over and over: a littel later each month until they simply stop paying.

If you must know his thinking, there was an exact day he DECIDED to stop paying you or returning your messages.

Could be a thousand reasons but none of them matter. He made a personal decision and is sticking to it.

He might have decided to move and is saving up his cash (IF he still has income) for the next place, ASSUMING you can use his deposit for the last month of rent - because his last LL allowed that.

He might be gone. Call the utils and do an occupancy check.

THIS is why we are ZERO TOLERANCE on lates. Simple: either paid or not.

BRAD --73.102.xxx.xxx

gone bad (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Jun 17, 2019 11:57 AM

Time for housing court training to determine when you can begin the eviction, your judge may dismiss your case if you begin before the latest rent payment accepted by sloppy management - this is what sets the precedence so maybe time to sell or hire a better manager. --76.188.xxx.xx

gone bad (by Doogie [KS]) Posted on: Jun 17, 2019 12:22 PM

Evict and move on. They can (and should) borrow from someone else. This is a business and there aren't many other business that extend the kind of credit we sometimes do. Zero Tolerance policy has helped me tremendously. --63.245.xxx.xx

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