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Mold (by Maura [NH]) May 29, 2019 8:15 PM
       Mold (by NE [PA]) May 29, 2019 8:45 PM
       Mold (by Maura [NH]) May 29, 2019 8:49 PM
       Mold (by Maura [NH]) May 29, 2019 8:49 PM
       Mold (by NE [PA]) May 29, 2019 9:05 PM
       Mold (by NE [PA]) May 29, 2019 9:06 PM
       Mold (by Nellie [ME]) May 29, 2019 10:31 PM
       Mold (by Gene [OH]) May 29, 2019 11:43 PM
       Mold (by Robert J [CA]) May 30, 2019 3:37 AM
       Mold (by Maura [NH]) May 30, 2019 6:37 AM
       Mold (by NE [PA]) May 30, 2019 6:45 AM
       Mold (by nhsailmaker [NH]) May 30, 2019 8:01 AM
       Mold (by Barb [MO]) May 30, 2019 8:39 AM
       Mold (by Vee [OH]) May 30, 2019 9:02 AM
       Mold (by Lana [IN]) May 30, 2019 4:50 PM
       Mold (by Maura [NH]) May 30, 2019 5:20 PM
       Mold (by NE [PA]) May 30, 2019 5:49 PM
       Mold (by beelocks [NH]) May 30, 2019 6:40 PM
       Mold (by Still Learning [NH]) May 30, 2019 8:34 PM
       Mold (by AllyM [NJ]) May 30, 2019 8:58 PM
       Mold (by Gene [OH]) May 30, 2019 9:20 PM
       Mold (by Gene [OH]) May 30, 2019 9:26 PM
       Mold (by Tarheel T [NC]) May 30, 2019 9:35 PM
       Mold (by JB [OR]) May 30, 2019 10:14 PM
       Mold (by Maura [NH]) May 30, 2019 10:28 PM
       Mold (by JB [OR]) May 30, 2019 10:38 PM
       Mold (by MC [PA]) May 31, 2019 6:49 AM
       Mold (by Maura [NH]) May 31, 2019 6:56 AM
       Mold (by NE [PA]) May 31, 2019 7:00 AM
       Mold (by J [FL]) May 31, 2019 9:03 AM
       Mold (by NE [PA]) May 31, 2019 9:17 AM
       Mold (by J [FL]) May 31, 2019 9:23 AM
       Mold (by NE [PA]) May 31, 2019 9:46 AM
       Mold (by MC [PA]) Jun 1, 2019 9:40 AM
       Mold (by Maura [NH]) Jun 1, 2019 1:59 PM
       Mold (by Maura [NH]) Jun 1, 2019 1:59 PM
       Mold (by Maura [NH]) Jun 1, 2019 2:00 PM
       Mold (by Vee [OH]) Jun 3, 2019 1:16 PM
       Mold (by NE [PA]) Jun 3, 2019 1:20 PM
       Mold (by Maura [NH]) Jun 3, 2019 1:36 PM
       Mold (by plenty [MO]) Jun 6, 2019 6:32 PM
       Mold (by Maura [NH]) Jun 7, 2019 8:40 AM

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Mold (by Maura [NH]) Posted on: May 29, 2019 8:15 PM
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I had a tenant call two days ago saying she had a leak in her ceiling. When someone was upstairs running water. Went over that day, no leak went upstairs to an empty apt. ran the water in the kitchen sink no leak, bathroom sink, leak . I tell her no one will be upstairs this week, I will call a plumber to come fix it. Plumber can't come for a week, so I have my maintenance guy cut a hole the next day to check it, we see the elbow of PVC has come apart. We go over the next morning cut back the sheep rock, repair the pipe, she says, I think I see mold up there. We see crap that came out of the pipe and its dirty, but we don't see mold. She takes a piece of the ceiling to be tested. Now she is having a mold expert come to the house on Friday to do an air quality test and test her sample.

Time frame Sunday, 1st time she see's leak, no one in apt after that no leak, wed. morning 8am leak fixed patched. Her apt. is a mess, really dirty and dust and crap everywhere. On Sec. 8 lives there without paying anything, gets food stamps. She told me she has breathing problems and she needs to see if it was caused by mold were the leak was. Now claims its been leaking for 3 years, not true, if it was she never told us. I took pictures don't see any mold on the wood, but the sheet rock was all dirty and crappy when we took it down were it was wet.

I'm freaking out, what if they find mold in the house? Can she claim it caused her issues? We addressed it as soon as she told us about it. I could probably find mold in her 3 inches of dirt, dust and cat hair in the corners of the room!! Is there anything I should do? Should I call my own mold person? Should I call a lawyer? I looked at my insurance it doesn't cover mold claims? I'm really worried about what this can do to us. I know she is out to get money from us --198.52.xx.xxx




Mold (by NE [PA]) Posted on: May 29, 2019 8:45 PM
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Stay tight lipped and get rid of her asap. Don't honor any tests done by anyone she hires. Personally. I wouldn't even talk to anyone she brings there and certainly wouldn't pay for it. If she tries to get squirrelly with the rent, evict.

--50.32.xxx.xx




Mold (by Maura [NH]) Posted on: May 29, 2019 8:49 PM
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She already called in the expert! He is coming friday.

she is on Sec. 8 housing so not easy to evict!! I think she see's this as a way to make money!

--198.52.xx.xxx




Mold (by Maura [NH]) Posted on: May 29, 2019 8:49 PM
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She already called in the expert! He is coming friday.

she is on Sec. 8 housing so not easy to evict!! I think she see's this as a way to make money!

--198.52.xx.xxx




Mold (by NE [PA]) Posted on: May 29, 2019 9:05 PM
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Call him and tell him you aren't giving him access to YOUR property and that you aren't paying for his services and that she's dead broke so good luck getting

paid.

--50.32.xxx.xx




Mold (by NE [PA]) Posted on: May 29, 2019 9:06 PM
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Better yet, call him and tell him he better get his fees up front because she's broke! Haha. He may not even show. --50.32.xxx.xx




Mold (by Nellie [ME]) Posted on: May 29, 2019 10:31 PM
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Problem is there is mold EVERYWHERE! Make them prove it came from a leak that was only a few days old.

When did Section 8 conduct their last inspection? Did they notice the problem 3 years ago? Or 2? Or 1? If it had been leaking that long it should have come up at inspection. --70.16.xxx.xxx




Mold (by Gene [OH]) Posted on: May 29, 2019 11:43 PM
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Maura, my mom was sued by a tenant because she claimed her kids were sick from mold in the house. What she actually saw was mildew due to poor house keeping. However, when the tenant filed a lawsuit, we hired a mold tester which cost around $500-600 (about 3-4 years ago). He did some sampling in the house and then took a sampling outdoors. The report showed that there was more mold in the outside air then there was inside the house. Also, our lawyer stated that there are no guidelines as to what is an acceptable level for mold, so any tenant would have a hard time proving that mold found inside a home is a real issue. It is very rare that mold inside a house is toxic. --99.165.xx.xxx




Mold (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: May 30, 2019 3:37 AM
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Not all "mold" is equal. Some are harmless and part of the echo system to break down subject matter. --47.156.xx.xx




Mold (by Maura [NH]) Posted on: May 30, 2019 6:37 AM
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Gene: Did your moms case go to court? I'm so worried about his, I don't know what to expect and how big of a hassel this can turn in to. Since insurance won't pay for it, this could cost a lot to defend and and judgement she gets would all be out of pocket. We are both close to 70 and ready to retire, this could ruin us. :( --198.52.xx.xxx




Mold (by NE [PA]) Posted on: May 30, 2019 6:45 AM
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Maura relax, it'll never get that far. --50.32.xxx.xx




Mold (by nhsailmaker [NH]) Posted on: May 30, 2019 8:01 AM
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Her claim of Mold has created an adversarial relationship.

Do not ever TALK to her again

document everything and only communicate by written means

If my tenant claimed mold that would void MY lease because it is no longer habitable

As soon as it is no longer a retaliatory measure - EVICT - use the NH Law V. "Other good cause" as set forth in paragraph II(e) of this section includes, but is not limited to, any legitimate business or economic reason and need not be based on the action or inaction of the tenant, members of his family, or guests.

use the mold remediation as the other good cause --24.62.xxx.xxx




Mold (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: May 30, 2019 8:39 AM
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Make sure she knows you are not paying for any testing and you are not giving access to any other part of the property.

Other than that, donít say a word.

Make clear notes for yourself:

Date you were first notified about a potential leak.

Date you called for service

Date of additional service.

All other communication notes.

Tell her you need to make an inspection for your purposes. Take photos of her filth and clutter! Test her smoke/CO detectors. If the detectors donít work, replace then immediately! --64.251.xxx.xxx




Mold (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: May 30, 2019 9:02 AM
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Sounds like you needed a mold addendum before opening for business, those free lawyers will run you around so be prepared to take lots of notes and demand copies of anything on paper - the verbal blah-blah is just that, please send documentation to our office... --76.188.xxx.xx




Mold (by Lana [IN]) Posted on: May 30, 2019 4:50 PM
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Thanks Maura. I am investigating whether or not to try to help my disabled tenants get on Sec 8. I do not like the HUD Tenancy Addendum nor do the local Landlords like their Section 8 agent, so you just pushed me over. As above, make sure she and tester know you will not pay. --216.23.xxx.xx




Mold (by Maura [NH]) Posted on: May 30, 2019 5:20 PM
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She just called me and told me if I sign the house over to her she will sign a paper releasing me of any liability for her health issues

--199.21.xxx.xxx




Mold (by NE [PA]) Posted on: May 30, 2019 5:49 PM
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Sue her for that statement. --174.201.x.xxx




Mold (by beelocks [NH]) Posted on: May 30, 2019 6:40 PM
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Curious that it's caused health problems, but she doesn't mind getting a free house out of it.

If you want to play, why not suggest that she can buy the property for a reduced price? Discount the Zillow guestimate by 15% and have a check made payable to Maura on your desk by 5pm Friday. --98.229.xxx.xx




Mold (by Still Learning [NH]) Posted on: May 30, 2019 8:34 PM
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Donít answer the phone. Let it go to voicemail or communicate through text or email. Be professional and capture her threats by voice or in writing. A section 8 inspector for the state came to our last landlord meeting and said mold isnít a big issue in the area. It is usually mildew due to tenantís lack of cleaning, using bathroom fans, etc. --24.61.xxx.xx




Mold (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: May 30, 2019 8:58 PM
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Get your own mold tester. That's what I did when tenant got a kit from Home Depot. My guy told her to shut the windows and turn on the AC. None of it was any kind of unusual mold. She was leaving the cellar Bilco door open and there was some mold in the basement. Handyman cleaned it all out as it was just regular forest mold and not toxic. --173.61.xxx.xx




Mold (by Gene [OH]) Posted on: May 30, 2019 9:20 PM
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Maura, my mom was around 78 yrs old at the time. We went before the judge a few times to try to get the case settled. The first few times were to get back control of the property since they were not paying rent. The judge had them return the keys and vacate what was still in the house. The tenant's attorney actually saw that they didn't have a case with the mold issuse and since he was on a contingency fee basis, he quit.

We finally settled with the tenant rather than running up higher attorney's fees. We settled by returning their deposit, not charging for any damages (which was in the thousands), and giving them a recommendation letter. I told the attorney that I won't lie, so the letter just stated the address of the property, the dates that they rented, and the monthly rent. It also stated that they had no outstanding charges. Any decent landlord would have known that the letter had something behind it and would want to know more, so either they didn't use the letter or the landlord never called.

--99.165.xx.xxx




Mold (by Gene [OH]) Posted on: May 30, 2019 9:26 PM
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Maura, just make sure you have a great attorney who knows the real estate laws. Our attorney is part of our local REIA. He even discounted his attorney fees for us. Since he was also a landlord, he was able to give us solid advice.

So find yourself a great attorney and follow his advice and don't worry about being ruined. --99.165.xx.xxx




Mold (by Tarheel T [NC]) Posted on: May 30, 2019 9:35 PM
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As someone stated it costs alot to do a mold test. I would bet alot that they will not put out the $$.

Ive dealt with this and as long as you addressed the issue quickly, as soon as you were aware, then you should be in the clear. I would immediately give them notice to move for the reason that you need it vacant to make repairs. And dont worry...it will fizzle out when they see that they cant play you. --71.85.xxx.xx




Mold (by JB [OR]) Posted on: May 30, 2019 10:14 PM
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Maura, that is called blackmail and it is a crime. Dig up $500 and talk to a good LL attorney. Tell them everything. And document everything. All communications with tenant needs to be in writing. Don't sweat this! --24.20.xxx.xxx




Mold (by Maura [NH]) Posted on: May 30, 2019 10:28 PM
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Thank you everyone. I am losing sleep over this. This is a tenant that for years I didn't raise her rent. I would take a 100 off at xmas for her. When she lost her job I agreed to accept Sec. 8 I brought baskets of groceries over to her at thanksgiving. I have shown her nothing but kindness. She wants me to turn the house over to her and her friend. This is my husband and my retirement money. I worked my butt off for. So upsetting. Like they say no good deed goes unpunished. :(.... --199.21.xxx.xxx




Mold (by JB [OR]) Posted on: May 30, 2019 10:38 PM
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Or it could be considered extortion. If you could get her to say that again and record it or have her text or email details to you that would be great. --24.20.xxx.xxx




Mold (by MC [PA]) Posted on: May 31, 2019 6:49 AM
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Totally separate,but not, issue, it is a business-not a friendship. Does your mortgage company get you groceries,etc?

I am with everyone else, mold and she wants to buy it, YEAH right..Everything in writing/voice mail. On Section 8 and wants to buy it???Bet teh friend has something to do with it,it doesn't matter-it has now soured your relationship with your tenant.

If she wants to send you the results,fine-but don't comment on them. Do a little research on the company and type of test but don't tell her. As soon as rent is not paid, file. See if Section 8 still sends the check.

And she has no job but wants to buy a house that needs work?? It will fizzle out. She is just trying to run over you. --73.230.xxx.xx




Mold (by Maura [NH]) Posted on: May 31, 2019 6:56 AM
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My license mold inspector will be coming today to do inside and outside mold readings. it takes at least 10 days to get the results. Then we will see if it has TOXIC mold.

She has been asking me lots of questions lately even before this came up about what I'm going to do with this house.

If my kids are going to take it over. She also said: We are all getting older you should sell this so you don't have to deal with it anymore. So her "friend" must have an interest in the house and wants to get it cheap.

--199.21.xxx.xxx




Mold (by NE [PA]) Posted on: May 31, 2019 7:00 AM
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Why are you even hiring your own mold inspector? Get it dry and clean and seal the drywall up.

I think you're scared of her and way in over your head. --50.32.xxx.xx




Mold (by J [FL]) Posted on: May 31, 2019 9:03 AM
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If you hire a mold inspector and it comes up positive won't you be required to disclose when you sell the house? --72.188.xx.xxx




Mold (by NE [PA]) Posted on: May 31, 2019 9:17 AM
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J, not if it's fixed. Actually, I just filled out 2 sellers disclosures in the last 2 weeks and I don't remember seeing that at all in the 11 pages of the disclosure. --174.201.xx.xx




Mold (by J [FL]) Posted on: May 31, 2019 9:23 AM
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OK thanks.

--72.188.xx.xxx




Mold (by NE [PA]) Posted on: May 31, 2019 9:46 AM
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Other states may be different. --174.201.xx.xx




Mold (by MC [PA]) Posted on: Jun 1, 2019 9:40 AM
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So...Has June rent been paid by anyone yet?

Those "friends" are always a pain. You can even name some obnoxious price tens of thousands above what it is worth...Just about everything is for sale at the right price-that is a whole other issue. --73.230.xxx.xx




Mold (by Maura [NH]) Posted on: Jun 1, 2019 1:59 PM
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Sec. 8 paid her June rent.

Both our mold inspectors came yesterday.

You can not see any mold anywhere in the house.

No mold smell, no complaints of mold, the only way we would have know there was any mold anywhere is when we opened the ceiling to look at the pipe and she was there. She said THAT LOOKS LIKE MOLD ON THAT PIPE, I thought it looked like crap from the pipe. So from the time we opened up the ceiling and got in there cleaned it up, glued the pipe, sprayed the cavity with mold killer disinfectant was less then one day. So she can't say we were negligent. If we had mold we were totally unaware of it, and so was she. I took a sample from the ceiling we took down and did one of those 5 min test for the TOXIC mold, the 2 different kinds, it was negative. So i'm hoping the experts air quality tests come back good too!.

--198.52.xx.xxx




Mold (by Maura [NH]) Posted on: Jun 1, 2019 1:59 PM
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Sec. 8 paid her June rent.

Both our mold inspectors came yesterday.

You can not see any mold anywhere in the house.

No mold smell, no complaints of mold, the only way we would have know there was any mold anywhere is when we opened the ceiling to look at the pipe and she was there. She said THAT LOOKS LIKE MOLD ON THAT PIPE, I thought it looked like crap from the pipe. So from the time we opened up the ceiling and got in there cleaned it up, glued the pipe, sprayed the cavity with mold killer disinfectant was less then one day. So she can't say we were negligent. If we had mold we were totally unaware of it, and so was she. I took a sample from the ceiling we took down and did one of those 5 min test for the TOXIC mold, the 2 different kinds, it was negative. So i'm hoping the experts air quality tests come back good too!.

--198.52.xx.xxx




Mold (by Maura [NH]) Posted on: Jun 1, 2019 2:00 PM
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Sec. 8 paid her June rent.

Both our mold inspectors came yesterday.

You can not see any mold anywhere in the house.

No mold smell, no complaints of mold, the only way we would have know there was any mold anywhere is when we opened the ceiling to look at the pipe and she was there. She said THAT LOOKS LIKE MOLD ON THAT PIPE, I thought it looked like crap from the pipe. So from the time we opened up the ceiling and got in there cleaned it up, glued the pipe, sprayed the cavity with mold killer disinfectant was less then one day. So she can't say we were negligent. If we had mold we were totally unaware of it, and so was she. I took a sample from the ceiling we took down and did one of those 5 min test for the TOXIC mold, the 2 different kinds, it was negative. So i'm hoping the experts air quality tests come back good too!.

--198.52.xx.xxx




Mold (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Jun 3, 2019 1:16 PM
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Add this inspection to the next rent cycle, unusual things behind walls are not in the habitable section of the house and if they were you have a -all clear- from professionals, no need to argue with these tenants, you lower your standards of conversation and they enjoy wasting your time.... --76.188.xxx.xx




Mold (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jun 3, 2019 1:20 PM
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Get rid of her as soon as you can. --174.201.xx.x




Mold (by Maura [NH]) Posted on: Jun 3, 2019 1:36 PM
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Just waiting for the mold experts reports.

praying it comes back ok. I really feel that we have done nothing wrong. She called us about a leak, we fixed it immediately we had no complaints from her or anyone about mold or leaking. If there happens to be something up in the ceiling we had no knowledge of it and if they say its mold I will hire professionals to deal with it immediately

--198.52.xx.xxx




Mold (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Jun 6, 2019 6:32 PM
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She is nuts! What kind of black mail is that? And how does she have $500 to pay for such testing. I would be very concerned of her behavior. Scary behavior for sure. I can understand why you would be worried.

Remember to run your business. Be professional and don't get caught up in her drama. Respond to each maintenance call. Start a time line, get paper and pencil write out just like you did here... where what who date time. Very important. As time goes on you'll forget important details. Take pictures. Record on your time line text messages, voice messages... transcript them.

Run your business. Let all her phone calls go to voice mail. Text messages only acknowledge receiving.. Reply K. Or OK. If there is a maintenance request, schedule that. Maybe even do a follow up from last repair. Put a piece of the drywall you cut out in a zip locl bag. I feel for you, dont loose any sleep. Prepare yourself and pray... light and love on the house. --99.203.xx.xxx




Mold (by Maura [NH]) Posted on: Jun 7, 2019 8:40 AM
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Thank you for your support

:) --198.52.xx.xxx



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