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CO/Smokes (by Tom [ME]) May 23, 2019 2:15 PM
       CO/Smokes (by fred [CA]) May 23, 2019 2:42 PM
       CO/Smokes (by Jim In O C [CA]) May 23, 2019 3:43 PM
       CO/Smokes (by MB [WI]) May 23, 2019 4:15 PM
       CO/Smokes (by David [NC]) May 23, 2019 4:28 PM
       CO/Smokes (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) May 23, 2019 8:06 PM
       CO/Smokes (by Nellie [ME]) May 24, 2019 8:40 AM
       CO/Smokes (by Danno [IL]) May 25, 2019 8:41 AM
       CO/Smokes (by Hoosier [IN]) May 25, 2019 12:30 PM
       CO/Smokes (by Vee [OH]) May 26, 2019 9:33 AM
       CO/Smokes (by Hoosier [IN]) May 26, 2019 11:16 AM
       CO/Smokes (by Danno [IL]) May 26, 2019 2:18 PM

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CO/Smokes (by Tom [ME]) Posted on: May 23, 2019 2:15 PM

Recommendations for the best value on these?

My insurance company wants them in all units.


CO/Smokes (by fred [CA]) Posted on: May 23, 2019 2:42 PM

Choose from one of the reliable brands, like First Alert or Kidde.

Off brands will not cut it.

CO/Smokes (by Jim In O C [CA]) Posted on: May 23, 2019 3:43 PM

FYI, Taxiforina requires the landlord or his-her employee to physically test each smoke detector every six months. This puts the landlord in the property and we can blame the law.

CO/Smokes (by MB [WI]) Posted on: May 23, 2019 4:15 PM

Home Depot often runs bulk deals on them for Pro members. If you have a Menards near you, they seem to have them on sale at least every other month. I also would only use a major name brand. I like using the Kiddie interconnected A/C wired with 10 Year sealed battery back-up; however, I've come across a few units that are dead on arrival which tends to cause all the alarms in the house to go off at once until you find which unit is defective. Expensive up front, but having peace of mind and no batteries to replace for 10 years makes it worth it in my mind.

CO/Smokes (by David [NC]) Posted on: May 23, 2019 4:28 PM

walmart dot com

Kiddie i9010 $15 each less in 3 packs

CO/Smokes (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: May 23, 2019 8:06 PM

The best is to install a electrical box in the ceiling then installed a AC wired smoke CO alarm in the ceiling with battery back up. Batteries last a very long time as there minimal use. A 9 volt battery is easy to replace then green light stays lit to indicate power along with the battery is ok. Cost more upfront where safety one can not put a cost on that. Powered are more reliable.

CO/Smokes (by Nellie [ME]) Posted on: May 24, 2019 8:40 AM

Tom, several years ago it became required in Maine that we provide CO detectors. In bedroom areas.

I went to replace some last week and found that the only ones HD had that were 10 year battery hardwire have voice alarm. At 85 decibels.

Does anyone else think 85 decibels is too loud? When they went off (at 4 a.m.) my husband and I had ringing in our ears for several hours.

CO/Smokes (by Danno [IL]) Posted on: May 25, 2019 8:41 AM

I was at first surprised when my insurance company underwriters wanted a set of smoke and CO detectors in the laundry room. Their explanation was this was just in case a fire occurs in the two dryers I had in there. There is minimal risk in that instance, for I dutifully check the filters frequently and clean out the vent lines every 6 months.

CO/Smokes (by Hoosier [IN]) Posted on: May 25, 2019 12:30 PM

There are three basic types of smoke alarms.

1) Flame ionization - these detect flames

2) Photoelectric - these detect smoke

3) Dual Sensor - these combine both of the above.

The package usually will not say those words, but you can infer the type by looking for phrases such as "detects smokey fires" or something similar. I prefer photoelectric, as most deaths occur in cases where there are smokey fires...from smoke inhalation. Although a combination alarm would do both, they are much more expensive. Photelectric are about 10-20% more expensive than flame ionization types.

As for CO alarms, some now have an internal "timer" that will start chirping in 7 years, and will not stop chirping until it is replaced...I just had to do this on one they are only rated to last 7 years. For this reason (and other reasons) I use a wall-plugin type CO alarm and keep the smoke alarms separate.

If you're looking for the cheapest price, I'm not the person to ask. But above is an explanation of what they do and how they work FYI.

As a home inspector, I saw hundreds of faulty alarms...most of them are the least expensive brands (you get what you pay for). Testing them with the button does not test the sensor, it only tests the siren. To properly test a photoelectric, you must use a smoke canister.

I've used BRK and First Alert with success, but an exact model number depends on which type you want and whether you want hardwired or battery operated. We use only hardwired interconnected in our rentals.

The last thing I ever want on my conscience is for a tenant to die in a fire because I didn't have a good warning system. We will be moving to dual sensor type alarms, and the only reason we don't have them now is that when I outfitted the rentals at first I was not aware these existed.

CO/Smokes (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: May 26, 2019 9:33 AM

I always ask where they like it mounted, low for the CO or high for the smoke, same question to fire dept employees - they create a look like a deer who found headlights, I suggest asking if you can use a plugin type CO detector with a battery and the conventional smoke on the cieling, I use a/c powered smokes BRK 9120b - very loud and where we have inspections that person often drops the clipboard cause they are expecting some sound like a mouse locked in a grandfather clock.

CO/Smokes (by Hoosier [IN]) Posted on: May 26, 2019 11:16 AM

CO is about the same weight as air, so not critical whether to mount high or low....but smokes need to be within about a foot of the peak (be careful on vaulted ceilings).

New code requirement 2018 says you should also have one in hallway near any bathroom... some people were dying in fires because they were showering and could not hear the alarm

CO/Smokes (by Danno [IL]) Posted on: May 26, 2019 2:18 PM

Hoosier, I have a big problem with smoke detectors near bathroom doors. The steam escaping from the bathroom after someone takes a shower always sets them off. I'm very much surprised no one mentioned that fact in committee when that rule was allegedly passed.

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