 Max money lead man (by #22 [MO]) May 22, 2019 10:08 PM
 Max money lead man (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) May 23, 2019 12:32 AM
Max money lead man (by Steve [MA]) May 23, 2019 6:33 AM
Max money lead man (by S i d [MO]) May 23, 2019 8:25 AM
Max money lead man (by Sisco [MO]) May 23, 2019 8:38 AM
Max money lead man (by NE [PA]) May 23, 2019 8:40 AM
Max money lead man (by Ken [NY]) May 23, 2019 8:54 AM
Max money lead man (by fred [CA]) May 23, 2019 8:58 AM
Max money lead man (by fred [CA]) May 23, 2019 8:59 AM
Max money lead man (by razorback_tim [AR]) May 23, 2019 9:27 AM
Max money lead man (by Oregonwoodsmoke [ID]) May 23, 2019 9:33 AM
Max money lead man (by NE [PA]) May 23, 2019 10:09 AM
Max money lead man (by NE [PA]) May 23, 2019 10:24 AM
Max money lead man (by don [PA]) May 23, 2019 2:07 PM
Max money lead man (by #22 [MO]) May 25, 2019 9:24 AM
Max money lead man (by Small potatoes [NY]) May 25, 2019 9:48 PM
Max money lead man (by JB [OR]) May 27, 2019 3:57 PM
Max money lead man (by #22 [MO]) Posted on: May 22, 2019 10:08 PM
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I've been on a cruise the past 5 days and being gone has gotten me to ponder: what is too much to pay a lead guy running the labor/maintenance side of things? I've got a man on the books at $30/hour.
He's totally drama free, capable and good at his job. He's the type you can send to a house and tell him to run with it and know the right things will be done and correctly. There's certainly value in having him on, but his cost is a lot more than the $20/hour or so I'd like to commit for this role. With that being said, I've got 3 other guys as well ranging from $10-16 and none of them are able to handle a lead role. Am I being cheap in wanting a lead at $20 vs $30/hour?
I'm considering seeing if I can commit $1200/wk for 45 hours m-f from him... maybe throw in a phone so he's getting something for the concession....
Any other ideas or thoughts? Thanks in advance --216.130.xx.xxx |
Max money lead man (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Posted on: May 23, 2019 12:32 AM
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Isn't $1200/45 = $26/hr? Not much difference. Remember, you get what you pay for. Maybe if you're wanting to make him happy AND cut costs, since he can take the responsibility of being lead, why not give him more $10/hr subs to run. If he does more work through subs, he'll work faster and get more done which saves you money while he's being paid $30 for less hours. --108.69.xxx.xxx |
Max money lead man (by Steve [MA]) Posted on: May 23, 2019 6:33 AM
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Under your present arrangement are you covering all of them for WC & liability insurance, unemployment, your portion of Fed & state income and SS? In another words are these workers your employees or are you just trying to treat them all as "subs".
If I had a person who "totally drama free, capable and good at his job", I wouldn't quibble over a few dollars especially when they are deductible. IMO $3.34 an hour ($30.00- $26.66) is well worth the peace of mind knowing that I have someone reliable to can handle for me whether I'm home or away enjoying spending my tenants money.
LOF brings up an excellent point, if this person is capable of overseeing your less expensive workers, it's possible that at the end of the day your whole crew will be more productive. However you need to be careful that he doesn't end up having to spend too much of his time "baby sitting" the others.
--96.237.xx.xx |
Max money lead man (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: May 23, 2019 8:25 AM
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$30/hour sounds like a bargain for a competent, self-motivated go-getter. I realize too that it costs you more than that and we're only talking his pay check here, but on the flip side your average Bachelor's Degree in IT makes about that much as an entry-level coder with no one to supervise. So for someone who has in-depth experience in construction project management and can keep a crew of $10/hour laborers motivated and on task....I'd say that's worth it.
Not the answer you were hoping for, I know. But what would you and I expect if we were doing something like that and we knew the guy writing checks was making $200/hr or more?
We're in a tight labor market right now too. I would not be surprised to see costs increase 10-20% by next year. Get 'em now and get the jobs done before you're paying $1400/week. --173.20.xxx.xxx |
Max money lead man (by Sisco [MO]) Posted on: May 23, 2019 8:38 AM
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$30 per hour is too cheap. He will get a higher offer. --72.172.xxx.xx |
Max money lead man (by NE [PA]) Posted on: May 23, 2019 8:40 AM
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When I'm not busy, around here I'll jump at the opportunity to work for 30 bucks an hour. --50.107.xxx.xx |
Max money lead man (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: May 23, 2019 8:54 AM
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NE,marketed properly and with primarily older people hiring you you could charge $50-$100 an hour or more for 1 or 2 day jobs,only problem would be when you are in middle of your own flip project and somebody calls with a day of work --72.231.xxx.xxx |
Max money lead man (by fred [CA]) Posted on: May 23, 2019 8:58 AM
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Why don't you run this experiment:
Call one of your guys on the $20 list, and after a fre repairs let us know if you are happy and willing to continue with him.
--99.59.x.xxx |
Max money lead man (by fred [CA]) Posted on: May 23, 2019 8:59 AM
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Correction:
After a FEW repairs... --99.59.x.xxx |
Max money lead man (by razorback_tim [AR]) Posted on: May 23, 2019 9:27 AM
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$30 isn't outside the range of what that's worth IMO. YTD my all-in costs for my guy is $29.26 per hour. That includes vehicle, phone, WC, FICA, etc. It's a little higher so far this year due to a light work load. Most years it winds up closer to $25. --70.178.x.xx |
Max money lead man (by Oregonwoodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: May 23, 2019 9:33 AM
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If you don't want to pay him $30 an hour, please send him to me.
My guy who charges $80 an hour is pretty good at doing the repairs, except he won't show up. I've got a job I gave him last September that still hasn't been done.
The $50 an hour guy does the repairs wrong and they have to be redone. --98.146.xxx.xxx |
Max money lead man (by NE [PA]) Posted on: May 23, 2019 10:09 AM
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If I was paying $50-$80 an hour for a person and not getting top-notch results and then a little bit above and beyond from them, I would flip out on them and probably not have them back. --174.220.xx.xx |
Max money lead man (by NE [PA]) Posted on: May 23, 2019 10:24 AM
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I don't hire out too much because of most of the problems discussed here with doing so.
For a $15-$30 hour guy, I expect to teach them stuff. For prices higher than that, they better be teaching me stuff. --174.220.xx.xx |
Max money lead man (by don [PA]) Posted on: May 23, 2019 2:07 PM
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$30 an hour as an employee guaranteed 40 hours, or as needed?
If it's as needed, you are getting a bargain. Send him to me in Philly! --70.90.xx.xxx |
Max money lead man (by #22 [MO]) Posted on: May 25, 2019 9:24 AM
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30/hr as needed, but it's been needed infinitely for awhile and looks to continue this way. Some good ideas in here... thanks! --174.227.xxx.xxx |
Max money lead man (by Small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: May 25, 2019 9:48 PM
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He sounds like a winner till he isn't I'd ride that as long as I could and definitely don't saddle him w/ babysitting. Pay him timely and always thank him for his work. As long as your tools and materials are not missing and your tenants trust him you have gold. --172.79.xxx.xxx |
Max money lead man (by JB [OR]) Posted on: May 27, 2019 3:57 PM
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He sounds like a bargain to me as well. I'd take him in my area in a heartbeat. BTW, I am in total agreement with Sid regarding wage inflation. I see it coming...and soon! --24.20.xxx.xxx |
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