Guest Policy (by Jeff [CO]) May 20, 2019 8:09 PM
Guest Policy (by RB [MI]) May 20, 2019 9:15 PM
Guest Policy (by Martin [CO]) May 20, 2019 9:16 PM
Guest Policy (by JKJ [MA]) May 21, 2019 5:48 AM
Guest Policy (by AccidentalRental [NJ]) May 21, 2019 5:50 AM
Guest Policy (by LindaJ [NY]) May 21, 2019 7:37 AM
Guest Policy (by Jeff [CO]) May 21, 2019 8:30 AM
Guest Policy (by LindaJ [NY]) May 21, 2019 11:31 AM
Guest Policy (by Danno [IL]) May 21, 2019 11:36 AM
Guest Policy (by LindaJ [NY]) May 21, 2019 3:33 PM
Guest Policy (by Busy [WI]) May 21, 2019 3:41 PM
Guest Policy (by Vee [OH]) May 21, 2019 3:45 PM
Guest Policy (by Jeff [CO]) May 21, 2019 7:23 PM
Guest Policy (by Pmh [TX]) May 22, 2019 6:32 PM
Guest Policy (by Danno [IL]) May 23, 2019 2:00 PM
Guest Policy (by Jeff [CO]) Posted on: May 20, 2019 8:09 PM Message:
I am now specifying 7 days (up from 5) in my leases. What do you state? --76.120.xx.xx |
Guest Policy (by RB [MI]) Posted on: May 20, 2019 9:15 PM Message:
My lease is clear:
Guests, Visitors and Fish all stink after 3 days. --184.53.x.xx |
Guest Policy (by Martin [CO]) Posted on: May 20, 2019 9:16 PM Message:
My lease says 14 days, and if they let me know and ask, I'm happy to do longer. I just want to know for sure that it is a guest. Had a tenant whose sister came out (from Illinois) for a month during the summer. I had no problem with it. Same sister moved to CO permanently, and became a roommate the next year (after I did a background check.) I want my tenants to feel like this is their home. Hopefully they will stay.
If it looks or feels like someone moving in without letting me do a background check, that's where I would draw the line. --174.16.xxx.xx |
Guest Policy (by JKJ [MA]) Posted on: May 21, 2019 5:48 AM Message:
My lease states no more than 14 or more than 3 consecutive without written, signed, consent from LL. My renters have always been single, so my thought is that allows for a girlfriend to stay over night once a week or there abouts. I don’t want the tenant to feel like they can’t have a “guest” but don’t want people staying all the time. This seems to work for me. --71.248.xxx.xxx |
Guest Policy (by AccidentalRental [NJ]) Posted on: May 21, 2019 5:50 AM Message:
I ask for written permission if they have any guests staying more than 3 nights in a 30 day period. This is in a popular urban area close to NYC.
I don't want to limit their quiet enjoyment of the property but need to balance that with the rights of other residents who don't want random people in and out of the building all of the time. I also don't want their SO gaining rights as a 'tenant' because they stay there all the time. --73.248.xxx.xxx |
Guest Policy (by LindaJ [NY]) Posted on: May 21, 2019 7:37 AM Message:
I don't have any guest policy. I don't want to police my tenant's lives. But then, I do Month to month agreements, so if I don't like what is happening, I can just give notice. --108.4.xxx.xx |
Guest Policy (by Jeff [CO]) Posted on: May 21, 2019 8:30 AM Message:
LindaJ, "I don't want to police my tenant's lives." LOL!
Funny comment!
P.S. Month-to-month leases? --76.120.xx.xx |
Guest Policy (by LindaJ [NY]) Posted on: May 21, 2019 11:31 AM Message:
I guess you could call them leases, but I call them agreements. Written like a lease, but no actual end date since they will "renew" every month unless notified. I look at leases as a longer term than a month. All the usual lease clauses are in there, so everyone knows what is expected, (ex: no animals, no smoking, garbage removal, utility responsibility etc). I don't advertise as such which weeds out a lot of short term tenants looking. So although they could leave any time with 1 month notice, I find they tend to stay longer than a year. Yet, even without a technical lease violation, if I find that guests stay too long or there are too many, I can raise the rent to cover that, or give them a month notice to leave without an explanation. I also find tenants will be more responsive to my requests, knowing that they can be given notice. For me it has worked well. --108.4.xxx.xx |
Guest Policy (by Danno [IL]) Posted on: May 21, 2019 11:36 AM Message:
LindaJ, with having MTM leases, don't you have a higher propensity of getting burned when they move out on you during winter months? --174.198.xx.xxx |
Guest Policy (by LindaJ [NY]) Posted on: May 21, 2019 3:33 PM Message:
No one really wants to move in winter months. Rarely do tenants do it unless they have to. But when the same tenant stays for 5, 8 or more years, having a few months vacant in winter, when I don't mind being stuck inside to do upgrades, isn't so bad. Even with a lease, if they leave and take an ELT fee, you still have a vacant house in winter. If you evict them for breaking a lease, you still have a vacant house in winter.
I find the M2M gives me more control in the areas I want and makes it easier for me to move on if things aren't working. When I did year leases, I would sometimes dread the time till the lease was up. They never really did anything to break the lease, I just didn't want to deal with them. This way I don't have to.
As people ask me about rentals (thinking they want to get into it) I tell them when it is good, it is very good. When it is bad, you really have to be good to get through it, because you will hate the bad. I try to make most of the time good and that is finding what works for me in my area. That is the nice thing about this board. You get to see what works for others and incorporate those things that will work for you. There are no hard rules. --108.4.xxx.xx |
Guest Policy (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: May 21, 2019 3:41 PM Message:
Linda, you were correct to call them MTM agreements. Another proper term is periodic tenancies, I believe. A lease is for a specified term. It isn’t a lease if it’s MTM, though we often catch ourselves referring to them that way sometimes. I am with you on using MTM. And about guests. --70.92.xxx.xxx |
Guest Policy (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: May 21, 2019 3:45 PM Message:
I follow my local housing court rules, more than 14 days in any 100 requires an additional payment - my lease shows 50bux a month per person, this idea came from the judge. --76.188.xxx.xx |
Guest Policy (by Jeff [CO]) Posted on: May 21, 2019 7:23 PM Message:
Busy, that is incorrect. A lease sure can be month to month. My leases start out at one year and then go MTM. The leases are in full effect at both points. --76.120.xx.xx |
Guest Policy (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: May 22, 2019 6:32 PM Message:
mine state 5 days & no more than 3 consecutive days per month without written permission. likewise I do not police day by day but is always an arrow in the quiver. my primary mkt is students. they will have “guests” never been a problem. Heck my then gf (now wife) & I would have been evicted several times...so long as rent is paid I don’t care about their social lives. I can always post if renters on lease are in violation of terms. --70.119.xxx.xxx |
Guest Policy (by Danno [IL]) Posted on: May 23, 2019 2:00 PM Message:
Leases can be for any specified timeframe. At one time, we operated furnished apartments, which ran on a weekly basis. Some of these also operated WTW. If we needed to terminate a tenancy, we gave 7 day notices, instead of the standard 30 day notice for monthly rentals. --174.221.xx.xxx |
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