Carjacking-Violent Felony
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Carjacking-Violent Felony (by DJ [VA]) Apr 23, 2019 7:04 AM
       Carjacking-Violent Felony (by David [MI]) Apr 23, 2019 7:15 AM
       Carjacking-Violent Felony (by DJ [VA]) Apr 23, 2019 7:23 AM
       Carjacking-Violent Felony (by Live The Dream [AZ]) Apr 23, 2019 7:41 AM
       Carjacking-Violent Felony (by MikeA [TX]) Apr 23, 2019 8:07 AM
       Carjacking-Violent Felony (by Paulio [PA]) Apr 23, 2019 9:24 AM
       Carjacking-Violent Felony (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Apr 23, 2019 10:38 AM
       Carjacking-Violent Felony (by DJ [VA]) Apr 23, 2019 12:04 PM
       Carjacking-Violent Felony (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Apr 23, 2019 1:04 PM
       Carjacking-Violent Felony (by Ken [NY]) Apr 23, 2019 1:04 PM
       Carjacking-Violent Felony (by JKJ [MA]) Apr 23, 2019 3:50 PM
       Carjacking-Violent Felony (by Live The Dream [AZ]) Apr 23, 2019 9:24 PM
       Carjacking-Violent Felony (by AllyM [NJ]) Apr 24, 2019 6:13 AM
       Carjacking-Violent Felony (by Nicole [PA]) Apr 24, 2019 9:26 AM
       Carjacking-Violent Felony (by Wilma [PA]) Apr 24, 2019 9:56 AM

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Carjacking-Violent Felony (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2019 7:04 AM
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My criteria include

"2) CRIMINAL HISTORY:

No convictions for any drug possession crime in the last ten years.

No convictions ever, for any drug distribution or intent to distribute.

No conviction for a violent crime (simple assault, misdemeanor) in the last ten years.

No convictions ever, for a violent crime (Aggravated assault, felony, weapon) "

Have an inquiry from someone who says "It was carjacking convicted in 1993. Did my time five years and never went back. I have my voteding rights restore."

Not being all that familiar with criminal classifications, It sounds like a felony if he had to restore his right to vote. But is it automatically violent to carjack? Like if no weapon was involved?

I may be willing to take him as a roomer, IF all else checked out, but this is one area I am weak - knowledge of what different charges mean. And want to dot all my "i"s

--68.10.xxx.x




Carjacking-Violent Felony (by David [MI]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2019 7:15 AM
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The us criminal justice system is built on plea bargains, something like 90-95% of cases are disposed that way. The actual crime that the prosecutor could convict at trial is higher, more serious.

A felony for carjacking , even if the charge on paper says "no weapon" could very well have involved a weapon and the prosecutor offered a lower charge for plea.

I do not take anyone with felonies or misdemeanor, ever, for this reason. Maybe simple MJ possession that would now be legal in MI --144.250.xx.xx




Carjacking-Violent Felony (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2019 7:23 AM
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Yes, David - I'm thinking that, too - everything is plead down, but you just can't tell.

When writing my criteria, I was thinking "violent felony" (not just" felony" = anything with a high dollar value) But reading it, it may be taken as any felony - if a judge ever cared? --68.10.xxx.x




Carjacking-Violent Felony (by Live The Dream [AZ]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2019 7:41 AM
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I would say no violent charges, ever. Car jacking is one of the most aggressive violent crimes out there. It is one of few crimes where in my state and numerous others, lethal force against car jacking is specifically authorized by law.

I don't want to associate with such people, car jackers are generally among the most barbaric among us, with no value on anyone or anything but themselves. God forbid you have to evict such a person. --47.216.xx.xxx




Carjacking-Violent Felony (by MikeA [TX]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2019 8:07 AM
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Carjacking is significantly different than car theft. You commit the felony crime of carjacking when you use force or fear to take a motor vehicle from the possession of another person against his or her will in that person’s immediate presence. It is considered a violent crime and is often handled by the Gang unit of local PD's. --50.26.xx.xxx




Carjacking-Violent Felony (by Paulio [PA]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2019 9:24 AM
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No, carjacking isn't necessarily violent. I suppose you can politely state, "Excuse me, Sir/Madam, I'm going to be relieving you of your vehicle now. Hope you don't mind. I'll call you a cab once I reach my destination. Thank you for your cooperation." --50.107.xxx.xxx




Carjacking-Violent Felony (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2019 10:38 AM
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DJ,

Just be aware your words are in violation of the recent HUD guidelines (of which I disapprove) by flatly denying felons. They want you to “consider” each crime.

Me? 26 years ago? Did his time? Worth a second look.

BRAD --73.102.xxx.xxx




Carjacking-Violent Felony (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2019 12:04 PM
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Good points, all.

Except Brad: My understanding is that you can't just eliminate them (convicted criminals) all, but need to discriminate such as: DQ violent felonies, but not those that were non-violent; but charged with a felony because the stuff they stole was worth $X.xx That is what I'm trying to do.

And I think they actually still allow us to deny drug dealers.

I'm going to deny him. I think it's appropriate based on my current, written criteria.

Thanks Y'all! --68.10.xxx.x




Carjacking-Violent Felony (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2019 1:04 PM
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DJ,

The HUD Guideline is VERY vague. Be careful to not place our own values or criteria on the liberal govt's plan and rules.

I don't want you to be the test case.

BRAD --73.102.xxx.xxx




Carjacking-Violent Felony (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2019 1:04 PM
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I am seeing a bit of an entitlement mentality, as far as I am concerned carjacking by definition is violent,if someone tried to carjack me without a weapon then I will kick there butt so they better have a weapon --72.231.xxx.xxx




Carjacking-Violent Felony (by JKJ [MA]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2019 3:50 PM
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the definition of car jacking is “the action of violently stealing an occupied car” If violence is not used during the theft is just stealing a car or “grand theft auto” --71.248.xxx.xxx




Carjacking-Violent Felony (by Live The Dream [AZ]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2019 9:24 PM
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Paulio PA - LOL at your post. Goggle "Sig MPX Tacops" if you politely ask me to steal my car, that is my newest aquisition and how I will answer, and mine is suppressed, because who wants to blow their ear drums out shooting a carjacker. LOL

Hey I'm not paranoid, the entire Vegas and NW AZ area is going to H in a bucket faster than we can plug the leaks. OK, I'm paranoid. :D

--47.216.xx.xxx




Carjacking-Violent Felony (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Apr 24, 2019 6:13 AM
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Are you out of your mind? This is a person who has no fear and no boundaries. What are you going to get from him the first time he breaks a rule and you have to let him know about it? --173.61.xxx.xx




Carjacking-Violent Felony (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Apr 24, 2019 9:26 AM
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In Pennsylvania, I can see the entire record. Original charge, final charge, sentence, violations of probation/parole, etc. I can see if the fines and costs are paid monthly - whether it be the offender, his/her job or mama.

So ... someone convicted 25 years ago who did 5 years in the slammer, has followed his parole, has a steady job and not been in trouble for over 20 years? Yea, I'd consider him. The way you live at 20 years old isn't necessarily the same as 45 years old. A smaller time frame, subsequent legal troubles, no I wouldn't. --72.70.xxx.xx




Carjacking-Violent Felony (by Wilma [PA]) Posted on: Apr 24, 2019 9:56 AM
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I'd have a tough time, personally. Some 20-something punk walked into my octogenarian parents' house and demanded their cars keys. When they refused, he punched Dad, breaking his nose - then shoved Mom to the floor. He grabbed her purse and took the car.

He was caught that night, 75 miles south. Car was smashed up in the police chase. Turned out that he'd done the same thing earlier in the day to another elderly man. In Florida, criminals do double time for assaulting seniors. For assaulting three seniors and for two counts of grand theft auto, he will be in jail until HE is a senior.

A prospect like that would need tons of solid proof that he's a changed person for me to consider him. --71.175.xxx.xx



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