Wood Floor Dilemma (by JB [OR]) Apr 20, 2019 9:18 AM|
Wood Floor Dilemma (by Larry [MN]) Apr 20, 2019 9:46 AM
Wood Floor Dilemma (by Salernitana [CA]) Apr 20, 2019 9:47 AM
Wood Floor Dilemma (by Still Learning [NH]) Apr 20, 2019 9:59 AM
Wood Floor Dilemma (by Lana [IN]) Apr 20, 2019 10:03 AM
Wood Floor Dilemma (by Ken [NY]) Apr 20, 2019 10:33 AM
Wood Floor Dilemma (by Oregonwoodsmoke [ID]) Apr 20, 2019 10:52 AM
Wood Floor Dilemma (by Oregonwoodsmoke [ID]) Apr 20, 2019 10:55 AM
Wood Floor Dilemma (by Busy [WI]) Apr 20, 2019 11:54 AM
Wood Floor Dilemma (by Busy [WI]) Apr 20, 2019 12:01 PM
Wood Floor Dilemma (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Apr 20, 2019 12:33 PM
Wood Floor Dilemma (by AllyM [NJ]) Apr 20, 2019 12:34 PM
Wood Floor Dilemma (by 6x6 [TN]) Apr 20, 2019 1:36 PM
Wood Floor Dilemma (by Tom [IL]) Apr 20, 2019 2:20 PM
Wood Floor Dilemma (by Vee [OH]) Apr 20, 2019 4:07 PM
Wood Floor Dilemma (by JKJ [MA]) Apr 20, 2019 5:50 PM
Wood Floor Dilemma (by Robert J [CA]) Apr 20, 2019 7:33 PM
Wood Floor Dilemma (by JKJ [MA]) Apr 20, 2019 8:54 PM
Wood Floor Dilemma (by Barb [MO]) Apr 21, 2019 8:03 AM
Wood Floor Dilemma (by JB [OR]) Apr 21, 2019 8:13 AM
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Wood Floor Dilemma (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2019 9:18 AM
I have a small older house (1940's) that I'm almost finished remodeling. I need to take up the old carpet and under this existing carpet are the original wood floors. Unfortunately, I think they are Fir (soft wood). What would you all do? Sand and finish the floors and hope they hold up well or go over the top with a laminate instead?
I had one younger (30y/o) handyman tell me that those old soft wood floors are so old that they are now practically a hard wood. Not sure I buy that, but I would love to hear your suggestions. Expediency and cost are important, but with all I've put into this I want it to look good
BTW, there are a few spots under the carpet that showed small areas of (likely) pet urine that should sand out if I finish those floors but otherwise they are in good shape.. --24.20.xxx.xxx
Wood Floor Dilemma (by Larry [MN]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2019 9:46 AM
Sand them and go with it. Hope they hold up well. I bet they do because they are so old. If they don't you can always put something else over it in the future. You aren't really out anything and when they are freshly finished they will look amazing. --73.164.xx.xx
Wood Floor Dilemma (by Salernitana [CA]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2019 9:47 AM
Wow, that's awesome, JB! I've seen some real estate agents light up when they pull up carpet and find hardwood underneath. If your place is in a nice area, I think that you can command a top price for rent. Many millenials and people who like architecture absolutely love vintage hardwood floors, and if they're part of your tenant pool, you could pitch the floors in your ad.
It sounds like you have several properties. Best of luck on this house and with finding a good tenant for the other one about which you posted earlier too. --73.93.xx.xx
Wood Floor Dilemma (by Still Learning [NH]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2019 9:59 AM
I loved my old wide pine floors in my previous house. They were soft so they did show marks from dropping cans on the kitchen doors, dogs, kids toys, high heels, etc but I viewed it as character. --24.61.xxx.xx
Wood Floor Dilemma (by Lana [IN]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2019 10:03 AM
It's a wonderful feeling. I had a nasty alcoholic who rented from me for 7 years. He became a real pain after my hubby died because he thought he should not have to pay a woman rent. His girlfriend died in his unit and soon thereafter he took off to Texas without warning, leaving a trashed unit. All windows busted, carpets ruined. Smelly. The unit had a 500 sq ft living room and when we pulled up the filthy carpet there was a beautiful custom hardwood floor. We refinished it and it recently re-rented with floor remaining awesome. It makes a tremendous first impression. --216.23.xxx.xx
Wood Floor Dilemma (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2019 10:33 AM
Finish the hardwood,it will outlast 10 carpet changes --72.231.xxx.xxx
Wood Floor Dilemma (by Oregonwoodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2019 10:52 AM
I deliberately put pine floors into my rentals. They look good, the tenants love them, and scratches just make them look more rustic. There has been surprisingly little damage.
I'm face nailing, so repairs are super easy, although I've never needed to repair.
Are you remodeling to sell or to rent?
There is a good possibility that is old growth wood and it will be tougher than anything you would buy today. --98.146.xxx.xxx
Wood Floor Dilemma (by Oregonwoodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2019 10:55 AM
I put on several coats of oil verathane and so far, the scratches haven't gone deep enough to reach the wood. --98.146.xxx.xxx
Wood Floor Dilemma (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2019 11:54 AM
Did you ever notice how hard it is to drill into old joists? Yep, wood gets harder with age. So, the young handyman is correct, they will wear better than a new soft wood.
My suggestion is give them a ‘quick and dirty’ refinishing. That’s just my term for it, but, I got the idea from Family Handyman magazine. So, instead of the full-on perfect refinishing, you, test some poly in an out of the way spot, like a closet. See if the poly goes down nicely, doesn’t bubble up. If all goes well on that spot, then clean all the floors well, use some bleach on the dark spots, lightly sand in areas where the surface is still reall glossy, or is rough, but not the full sanding. The point isn’t to sand to bare wood, just even rough spots, basically. Wipe up the dust, then wipe on the poly. Two coats. My husband uses oil-base poly when he helped me on some rentals, but water based when doing our own floors.
So far so good on the rentals, and in out own homes. By not doing the deep sanding, not removing the wood, the depth of the floors isn’t reduced. This doesn’t give a perfect floor, but does give a nice floor. And, I have had tenants say they love that the floors look good, but not so perfect that they are afraid of damaging them. I have had some busy households, and this has held up well. My own house our kids’ bedrooms are still in great shape, though daughter got a little glitter and nail polish on hers during her teen years.
I have always heard floors can only get a full refinishing (to perfection) about 3 times, then the sander would hit nails. With the ‘quick’ method, if you ever want to sell the house, you could have a full refinish that buyers might want done. But, as long as it’s a rental, you keep all of the wood depth . Just give tenants a new coat of poly between tenants.
Just one way to approach this. --70.92.xxx.xxx
Wood Floor Dilemma (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2019 12:01 PM
Oregon woodsmoke, that sounds pretty. I might try that in any houses without wood floors. I have one house that is getting Allure throughout, but, the rustic pine floors sound more appealing. --70.92.xxx.xxx
Wood Floor Dilemma (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2019 12:33 PM
I’d go with a good cleaning, try some bleach or Xylol on the moisture stains. YouTube it.
If their is no varnish coat you can hide stains by using a med to dark wood stain. Then sealer, then poly.
Carpet is OUT. Wood floors are IN. Rustic wood is double IN!
We use satin finish. Just did this to some pine underlayment floors and they look FA-BULOUS!
Wood Floor Dilemma (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2019 12:34 PM
Put some carpet back if you are going to rent it. It keeps the sound level down and will save the floors. if you are going to sell it then fix up the floors by sanding and recoating. If you are going to live in it then that's up to you.. --173.61.xxx.xx
Wood Floor Dilemma (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2019 1:36 PM
It is probably old growth lumber and also mostly heart wood. I would refinish the wood floor any day. It seems odd it would be fir but it would be pretty. I have heart pine in my house. Even the doors are heart pine. Very common in early 1900s. --73.120.xx.xxx
Wood Floor Dilemma (by Tom [IL]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2019 2:20 PM
We have always tried to save any wood floors in a rental. They will hold up much better than carpet or laminate. --107.197.xx.xx
Wood Floor Dilemma (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2019 4:07 PM
Sweep and vacuum well, turn off the furnace so no buugers blow on the floors, when you get the 3rd layer on it will glow. --76.188.xxx.xx
Wood Floor Dilemma (by JKJ [MA]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2019 5:50 PM
Refinish the floors, softwood hardens with age, and depending on the year the floors were installed they may be old growth. They will finish beautifully. --174.192.xx.xxx
Wood Floor Dilemma (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2019 7:33 PM
I am a contractor. When I find old hardwood flooring under carpet I conduct several tests.
Test #1: How thick is the wooden material. Many of the old floors were only 1/2 an inch thick -- tongue and groove (meaning only 1/3 of the wood is the usable surface walked on). I drill two holes in the flooring ( under the base boards where the true original thickness -- and somewhere lick in a closet that could be filled in later). I use a depth gauge and take these measurements.
Using simple math I can determine how much "meat" is left and how many sanding I can do. If the wood only has one sanding left, I wouldn't refinish the flooring. All of that money for one tenant.
If there are 2,3 or more sanding's left, then I would consider refinishing. But only after test #2.
TEST #2. Is the flooring sealer or stain contain "lead". Take samples to a lab for testing. You can cut out 1 small piece of flooring. If there is lead, it is too dangerous to play around with it!
I had 1 friend that didn't listen. He had his floor refinished in a 2 bedroom rental apartment. The first tenant had a dog. The dogs nails on his feet scratched into the flooring and the seams started to pull up. The floor looked like junk within a couple of weeks. $2,300 down the drain. For that money, he could have had a flooring put over the wood. --47.156.xx.xx
Wood Floor Dilemma (by JKJ [MA]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2019 8:54 PM
Robert J, that is actually very good advice and something I didn’t even consider. I will file that tidbit away in my head. Thanks --71.248.xxx.xxx
Wood Floor Dilemma (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Apr 21, 2019 8:03 AM
Soft wood that is 50 or more will be hard.
I would clean it good with a scrubber pad then see if i can get sealer to stick. Try a closet first. If it will stick, out down 3 coats of flooring poly and call it good. They may look distressed, and that is fine.
I refinished my 1923 hardwood floors in late 2016. My mother said I was crazy because I have the dog who would ruin them. I just reminded her they were old and distressed and would be fine. They are. Scratches are all light surface scratches. Of course, I keep his nails filed. Helps. --64.251.xxx.xxx
Wood Floor Dilemma (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Apr 21, 2019 8:13 AM
Thanks for all the advice. It seems pretty unanimous that I should try to make these floors work. That's what I was hoping for...just wanted to hear some confirmation. --24.20.xxx.xxx
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