ESAs Grrrr (by Barb [MO]) Apr 17, 2019 9:52 AM|
ESAs Grrrr (by Mike [TX]) Apr 17, 2019 9:58 AM
ESAs Grrrr (by Salernitana [CA]) Apr 17, 2019 10:15 AM
ESAs Grrrr (by CJ [MO]) Apr 17, 2019 10:51 AM
ESAs Grrrr (by John... [MI]) Apr 17, 2019 10:52 AM
ESAs Grrrr (by John... [MI]) Apr 17, 2019 11:02 AM
ESAs Grrrr (by John... [MI]) Apr 17, 2019 11:03 AM
ESAs Grrrr (by WMH [NC]) Apr 17, 2019 11:24 AM
ESAs Grrrr (by WMH [NC]) Apr 17, 2019 11:50 AM
ESAs Grrrr (by Barb [MO]) Apr 17, 2019 1:20 PM
ESAs Grrrr (by DJ [VA]) Apr 17, 2019 8:55 PM
ESAs Grrrr (by Barb [MO]) Apr 18, 2019 7:30 AM
ESAs Grrrr (by JKJ [MA]) Apr 18, 2019 8:17 AM
ESAs Grrrr (by NE [PA]) Apr 18, 2019 8:26 AM
ESAs Grrrr (by Alan [CA]) Apr 18, 2019 1:28 PM
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ESAs Grrrr (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Apr 17, 2019 9:52 AM
Today's Petfinder newsletter had a link about ESAs/SDs/Therapy Dogs. They are giving the wrong info!
Look at www.petfinder.com/dog-breeds/collections/emotional-support-dogs/
Note their wording:
How do you register your pet as an emotional support animal (ESA)?
Step 1: Meet with an expert
Schedule an appointment for a brief assessment with a licensed therapist.
Step 2: Get proof
Your ESA requires a letter from a mental health professional stating that the animal provides therapeutic value to its owner.
Step 3: Get registered
Register your dog online with a reputable nationally recognized, government-approved website. You’ll be assigned an identification number for your pet and receive proof of registration such as a certificate or card you can present as necessary.
How do we convince them to take this down? They need to be actually diagnosed a disabled by the licensed mental health provider, and they need a letter of medical necessity from that provider stating they have the disability and need the animal as part of the treatment plan.
This "registered" part is absolute BS and just flat wrong!
I encourage you all to respond to them and tell them they need take "Step 3" off their site, since it is flat out wrong There is no such thing as a reputable nationally recognized, government-approved website. Those websites are all scammer sites and do nothing but take people's money for nothing.
ESAs Grrrr (by Mike [TX]) Posted on: Apr 17, 2019 9:58 AM
I had a. Neighbor buy a condo in a no pet bldg. he got online and got his dog registered and now gets to take his dog to the new house.all the other owners in the bldg are mad as can be! I know another guy who got his registered online just because he wanted to... no particular reason. Anyone can do it for any dog online with no checks whatsoever. .... pretty ridiculous! --73.166.xxx.xxx
ESAs Grrrr (by Salernitana [CA]) Posted on: Apr 17, 2019 10:15 AM
I saw a post on a local forum, regarding a prospective tenant who couldn't find a rental because of her German Shepherd. The response post read something like: "...xyz apartments allows dogs. There's a breed restriction with a loophole. You get a doctor to say that your dog is an ESA."
Here's a large apartment complex's "Pet Policy"/dog policy:
Dogs must be at least one-year old
Breed Restrictions-No to the following breeds: Akita, Alaskan Malamute, Chow, Doberman Pinscher, German Shepherd, Great Dane, Husky, Pit Bull Terriers (including all breeds such as American Pit Bull Terrier, American or Irish Staffordshire Terriers, Bull Terriers, Pit Bulls, American Bull dogs, and Presa Canario), Rottweiler, Saint Bernard, and Wolf Dog Hybrids. We reserve the right to add additional restricted breeds at any time.
Thank you for having posted about this issue that seems to become more and more pronounced with time. I'd be interested in any legislation in defense of landlords.
ESAs Grrrr (by CJ [MO]) Posted on: Apr 17, 2019 10:51 AM
Are the step one and step two good requirements? Most fake people just want to do step three. That is the problem for landlord. --97.91.xxx.xxx
ESAs Grrrr (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Apr 17, 2019 10:52 AM
Barb: Yeah, that's some poorly researched crap from them.
My first question would be: Please show me a list of "nationally recognized, government-approved website" -- with emphasis on the "GOVERNMENT-APPROVED" since no such thing exists.
ESAs Grrrr (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Apr 17, 2019 11:02 AM
Barb, I went to Petfinder's Contact page and submitted this:
Hi there! I am writing with a concern about this page of your site:
Specifically, the steps at the bottom in the "How do you register your pet as an emotional support animal (ESA)?" section. The title itself is incorrect -- since there is no need or official way to "register your pet as an ESA."
The information throughout this section is very incorrect. Step 2 should be clarified that having an ESA requires the person have a disability by Federal definition of the term. The letter from the mental health professional must state that the person has a disability (although not what it actually is) and then something along the lines that "the accommodation is necessary to give the tenant equal opportunity to use and enjoy the housing community." It has to be more than just provide "therapeutic value" to the owner. The owner must meet the Federal disability definition.
And, probably more importantly, Step 3 is just absolutely incorrect. There is absolutely no such things as a "nationally recognized, government-approved website" for ESA registration. Registration is not required and, in fact, the government absolutely does NOT APPROVE NOR RECOGNIZE ANY website as an "ESA registry."
Step 3 should simply be "Give this documentation to your landlord to show that you are allowed an ESA."
I hope that you will correct this misinformation quickly. Thank you.
ESAs Grrrr (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Apr 17, 2019 11:03 AM
Note to self: You use "absolutely" way too many times when you are fired up! HA!
ESAs Grrrr (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Apr 17, 2019 11:24 AM
I just pm'ed them on Facebook pointing out their error, and said they were perpetuating ESA scams with their advice. --50.82.xxx.xx
ESAs Grrrr (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Apr 17, 2019 11:50 AM
They PM'ed back and gave me the address for the administrator and I wrote to them as well. I can't get it past the censor though.
ESAs Grrrr (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Apr 17, 2019 1:20 PM
Thanks for that email address. I just wrote to them using it, as well as sending a PM. --131.151.xx.xx
ESAs Grrrr (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Apr 17, 2019 8:55 PM
There is a LOT of BAD advice/ misinformation out there fueling the deceitful desires and illegal/immoral behaviors of pet owners.
Zillow has an article/instructions that uses ESA, Therapy dog, and Service dog interchangeably.
As bad as it is for us, it must be infuriating for the few legitimate ESA/Service animal owners who are now met with all kinds of automatic resistance by everyone who assumes they are ALL scammers. --68.10.xxx.x
ESAs Grrrr (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Apr 18, 2019 7:30 AM
DJ, it is.
My SD, Scooter, goes everywhere with me. It has become more and more difficult. He has flown from coast to coast, and been on a cruise to Alaska and Canada. We were on one flight where a cat got out of its carrier, and another where some little ESA dog was being a total annoyance, barking the entire trip. Scooter looked up with a “what is wrong with that thing” look, then curled up to snooze.
We’ve also seen some very well trained dogs, including a beautiful K9 GSD on a flight.
It takes all kinds. We just need these sites to not spread mis-information. --131.151.xxx.xxx
ESAs Grrrr (by JKJ [MA]) Posted on: Apr 18, 2019 8:17 AM
On another post about ESA’s a while back I posted my info for my stuffed toy moose (that I sent them a picture of) named BS with all fake info the site was usservicedogregistry.org, just to show how much of a joke those online registration are. My thought is let the web site keep it up, it’s much easier to weed out the fakers from those that truly need these animals when they show up with an online registration to rent an apartment. --174.192.xx.xxx
ESAs Grrrr (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 18, 2019 8:26 AM
Just pay attention to your local news stations online. Every few days you're going to see stories about these miraculous therapy dogs and emotional support animals and all this new wave nonsense. This stuff is totally different than a service dog. Federally regulated or not, this stuff is BS!
Kids on college campuses have to have a therapy dog during finals week and kids in the quart room have to have a therapy dog and any tragedy had a school these people bring in these therapy dogs it's just conditioning for some reason. I don't know why, but it is. It is crazy in my opinion.
People just need to get over it and toughen up. --174.201.xx.xx
ESAs Grrrr (by Alan [CA]) Posted on: Apr 18, 2019 1:28 PM
I foresee no end to the ESA wild territory for a long time. --71.198.xxx.xxx
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