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Pets cost money... (by WMH [NC]) Mar 25, 2019 1:17 PM
       Pets cost money... (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Mar 25, 2019 1:44 PM
       Pets cost money... (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Mar 25, 2019 1:56 PM
       Pets cost money... (by RB [MI]) Mar 25, 2019 1:57 PM
       Pets cost money... (by JKJ [MA]) Mar 25, 2019 2:08 PM
       Pets cost money... (by Barb [MO]) Mar 25, 2019 2:14 PM
       Pets cost money... (by Richard [MI]) Mar 25, 2019 2:24 PM
       Pets cost money... (by plenty [MO]) Mar 25, 2019 2:46 PM
       Pets cost money... (by Ken [NY]) Mar 25, 2019 3:10 PM
       Pets cost money... (by Busy [WI]) Mar 25, 2019 6:39 PM
       Pets cost money... (by Live The Dream [AZ]) Mar 25, 2019 9:39 PM
       Pets cost money... (by Robert Phaedra [NY]) Mar 27, 2019 10:48 AM
       Pets cost money... (by WMH [NC]) Mar 27, 2019 11:08 AM
       Pets cost money... (by RentsDue [MA]) Mar 28, 2019 11:23 AM
       Pets cost money... (by Wilma [PA]) Mar 28, 2019 3:09 PM

Pets cost money... (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Mar 25, 2019 1:17 PM

One reason to reject someone with too many animals is budget. It's not in their budget to care for those animals! They don't know it yet, but it's true.

We have two cats. Both neutered, both lovely loving cats to everyone but each other. They fight and squabble and we recently just had our (4th?) vet visit in the past year for one of them, another abscess on his face from a bite from the other one. $200 later he is happy and pain-free...

He's a CAT. $200 15 minute vet visit. Operation, antibiotics, pain meds.

All of you who have pets KNOW they are cheap to get, relatively cheap to feed but EXPENSIVE to care for properly...

Just sayin'

Pets cost money... (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Mar 25, 2019 1:44 PM

Yes, expensive to feed and care for. Vets charge serious money for even routine care, let alone emergency care.

But not necessarily cheap to get. Most of my tenants have purebred dogs of good quality and they didn't get those dogs for free out of a cardboard box in front of Walmart.

Pets cost money... (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Mar 25, 2019 1:56 PM

I don't get a lot of bad move-outs, but every one of them was with tenants who owned nondescript mongrels. I've bought one that was trashed and the tenants in it owned some ugly mongrels.

I wonder if there is some sort of correlation that can be made?

Hmm.... I guess not. One of my best tenants had a mongrel that she found as a stray. But the rest of my outstanding tenants have owned purebreds.

Pets cost money... (by RB [MI]) Posted on: Mar 25, 2019 1:57 PM

Get out the Blue light.

Most are eating, licking, stinky, #2 machines.

( Their in charge, the owner is not ) --184.53.x.xx

Pets cost money... (by JKJ [MA]) Posted on: Mar 25, 2019 2:08 PM

Oregon Woodsmoke, I think the only correlation is white trash apartment wrecking people cant afford a pure breed dog so they get their mongrel pets from the other white trash apartment wrecking friends they know that are to stupid or high on meth to get their dog neutered/spayed like a responsible adult.

Pets cost money... (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Mar 25, 2019 2:14 PM

Where I live, the vets have some of the most reasonable rates in the country. In general, none of them accept pet insurance, but they keep their costs low.

Still, yes. Pets cost money.

I spent nearly $150 today for an annual dog visit. This included a well animal check (which was super fast), one dose of Heartgard, a Rx for the generic to take to Sam's Club to get 12 more (half the price of the vet), a heartworm test, Rabies vaccine, distemper vaccine.

He will get two more vaccines in June (Lepto and Bordatello).

When he got sick in December/early January, we spent about $400 on him in two visits plus some meds.

That doesn't include the food, gear, etc.

Dogs are expensive! I think I added up that I spend $1500 - $2000 per year on him, including food. --131.151.xx.xx

Pets cost money... (by Richard [MI]) Posted on: Mar 25, 2019 2:24 PM

When it's time to assess an application, many of us use a number of 3.5 to 4 times the rent amount as a minimum we will accept to qualify. The banks that lend the money to buy a place use their own formulas for homes people buy.It used to be house payment no more than 25 percent of wages and total debt payments no more than 42 percent or so.

Over the past few years these numbers have gone up. Trouble is, people's wages have not increased proportionally. So, using these numbers, especially on Class C and D properties can often create problems.

When I made $3.50 an hour, rent was $85 a month. Used cars could be bought for $50 ( I had many I bought at that price). Gas was 25 cents a gallon.

Now my Tenants make $7.25 to $12 an hour. That's about 2 to 3.5 times the wages from then.

However, even the cheapest Class C place is $500.(6 times the old days) A used car is CHEAP if you can find one for $1000 (20 times the price). Gas is $2.69 today (10 times the price)Most everything else is up by the same levels.

It's obvious there's a big disparity. Realistically, the tenants would need a wage of about 10 times the old level ($35 an hour)just to keep even. They don't have it.

Many of them use 1.5 weeks pay or more for a place and struggle because all those other costs are Up too.

If it was realistic, I'd figure like this instead of just using the 3.5x rent formula.

Rent+ car payment+ gas+ repair allowance+ health insurance payment+ cigs at $210 a month for a pack a day for each smoker+$80 a month for each animal's food and vet allowance could not be more than 50 percent of take home pay.

Of course, for most C class tenants, that would mean they didn't qualify.

Pets cost money... (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Mar 25, 2019 2:46 PM

The last stat i read said budget $800 a year per pet. Just had an inquiry today for with family, himself, girlfriend and her child and there large poodle dogs!

Pets cost money... (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Mar 25, 2019 3:10 PM

We have a 175 pound ST Bernard and a golden retriever,my wife wanted a female ST Bernard to breed so she told me how much the puppies are worth that we can sell someday so I told her ok if we do this.Sell the puppies and I will buy a rental with the money from the puppies,i can buy a cheap place cash no problem with the proceeds from 8-10 puppies,then all rents collected go in a separate account and dog food,vet etc comes out of that account,she said good idea so we bought a female ST Bernard and had her flown in from Oklahoma.

Pets cost money... (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Mar 25, 2019 6:39 PM

WMH, just a thought, when one of our beagles started getting cranky towards the other one, had a quick scuffle, and one ear was badly ripped ($400 surgery). We had the vet check for other health issues. The crabbiness had been increasing slowly for a while. Anyway, turns out our girl was in pain from a good bit of arthritis. Glucosamine and chondroitin is taking care of it, though at first the vet had her on a dose of pain meds till the G&C started having effect.

Our baby is back to her sunny self. Even enjoying playing with the younger dog more than before. But you are correct. These furry couch pillows arenít cheap!

Pets cost money... (by Live The Dream [AZ]) Posted on: Mar 25, 2019 9:39 PM

I was a cat servant for a number of years. They weren't actually my cats, they were my next door neighbors, but they mostly lived at my house because I served them Trader Joes canned salmon on a crystal platter. So they loved me, but hated my neighbor because HE was the one who took them to the vet. I had to wear a leather jacket and welding gloves to get one of them into the box on vet day. LOL :)

One day I heard a hellacious noise outside, ran out to see this lady with her dog on about a 20 foot leash clear up in my entry with the cat cornered by the gate all arched and screaming at the dog. Then like a blur the other (a pure white Siamese) came racing along the fence and launched itself onto the back of the dog, digging it's teeth into it's neck. When we finally got it off there was like viscera hanging off the dog's neck!

I was like, "That's not MY cat, it's HIS cat!" I'm sure she had a thousand dollar vet bill. LOL

I still have their pictures on our fridge. :)

Pets cost money... (by Robert Phaedra [NY]) Posted on: Mar 27, 2019 10:48 AM

There is no such thing as a free pet.

Almost all of my tenants who have had dogs have purebreds. In fact, most people I know who have dogs have purebreds. Some can afford them, some can't. When I was a kid almost no one had purebreds. All mongrels. You don't need a pedigree to be a great companion animal.

Pets cost money... (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Mar 27, 2019 11:08 AM

We had a "mutt" when I was a kid, a purebred standard poodle got loose and mated with a labrador retriever. Free for the picking!

Nowadays that dog would be called a Labradoodle and would be $$$$.

Pets cost money... (by RentsDue [MA]) Posted on: Mar 28, 2019 11:23 AM

I know about free dogs, they are the most expensive ones....but worth every penny. Iím looking at a hard luck mutt right now and sheís looking right back at me with those big ď Iím a trouble makerĒ eyes. I can almost hear Sarah McLachlan and the ďAngelĒ song SPCA commercial when I look at her. That commercial ruins my whole day. Anyway the yearly stuff isnít even the big deal. The big money is when they have a misadventure ( country dogs tend to do that) or when they get sick and the vet knows you will pay thousands to fix them.

Pets cost money... (by Wilma [PA]) Posted on: Mar 28, 2019 3:09 PM

I still shake my head over the young woman that I met who is constantly in financial trouble, but still insists on owning 13 cats. At $500 per year per pet (average around here), that's $6500 per year, or $542 per month that she's out. Crazy.

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